Lee Adams

I am being repetitive but I am wondering whether you can run a 'pro style' offense at Akron and be successful. It seems to do that you have to be able to line up and be close to physically equal with the opponents. That doesn't seem to occur very often here. At least running a 'spread' or west coast or whatever,you can get away with having a decent QB,RB and WR or two and finesse your way around a game. At this point it does not appear Moore or even Nicely is suited to be a mostly drop back passer. And, the O-line can't consistently block those schemes.

I also think Fickell wants to keep this job.

Tasteless? You mean like how they were proud to have nuts on their chests? It just writes it's own joke....doesn't it? I can't believe someone would come up with such an idea that would easily promote ridicule. And even without that.....they still look like Christmas elves. Ahem...what do OSU cheerleaders on Friday night and OSU cheerleaders on Saturday afternoon have in common? This is indeed a slippery slope and should not be attempted w/o adult supervision.

Dave, There is always hope, otherwise we wouldn't be fans. Actually, Chisholm showed a few good fl.ashes against OSU, I'm interested in seeing what he can do this week. 30-0 last year. I don't believe the Zips will beat the Owls,but ya gotta score and the defense has to control the game better. I am beginning to wonder if you can really run a 'pro style' offense consistently,successfully here. It requires more phyisicality across the board than running a version of the spread,west coast or whatever. At least in the spread if you have a decent QB a decent receiver and a decent RB you can finesse your way around some of the teams that have more physical talent. It doesn't seem either Moore or Nicely fit the drop back mold. And the O-line certainly hasn't shown it can line up and cosistently control the line of scrimmage.

Ya does not bode well for the Zips on down the road does it?

Lets wait to see how they play against Temple. The team could really use a win. But if they can be real competetive against a good MAC opponent it will help them as well as the fans. 14th game of the Ianello regime will be big.

They REALLY need to beat Temple. Thats not only from the perspective of the team but also the fans. If the Zips aren't real competetive Saturday,I'm afraid those 'avg' fans they have been trying to get to the games are gonna lose interest early in the season again.

If that is true about barley House, then people need to STFU about Barley House supporting OSU. What is bad is that if the Zips lose again to Temple,casual fans are going to see the same thing they have seen for the last 5 years. Nobody will show up for games AGAIN.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt. He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand. I agree, but we're talking about iCoach. No way do I believe that he brought Nicely into the game to make a difference on offense. BTW, I also agree with your first post in this thread that the Temple game @ home will be more telling than this one. No I agree. I can't imagine that hee reason he brought Nicely in was to make a diff. in the game. Thats kind of what makes it weird. I hope he didn't think it was better to get Nicely hurt than Moore.

Maybe we all should hold off on this status of the coach thing til the end of the year.

This is exactly what I said earlier, and I don't blame him. It is iCoach's job to make the score competitive without relying on the other team to back off. Unlike a game against Tressel, today's score was truly representative of the difference in talent and performance. Not an accurate comparison. In our last two games at Cowlumbus, OSWho needed LATE scores to beat us. Those two games weren't close because Tressel "let off the gas" in the late going. They actually needed to turn up their play in the late going in order to beat us. I am NOT a big OSU fan. OK we can debate whether OSU 'needed' to do anything. You just said it, OSU wasn't playing well. They were able to 'turn it on' when they needed to. Do you think that OSU may just have done some minimal prep for Akron feeling confident they could 'turn it on' when needed? I'm not sure I understand your post here. I'm just pointing out that this game wasn't the same as the last two games under Tressel. If Tressel had "let off the gas" in the previous two games, we would have won. Today, the game was long over with in the 4th Q. I guess we can speculate about anything that is over.

Are you kidding?! The guy on the bench was an absolute disaster when he came into the game. Just like the guy he replaced.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt. He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand.

Correct.

This is exactly what I said earlier, and I don't blame him. It is iCoach's job to make the score competitive without relying on the other team to back off. Unlike a game against Tressel, today's score was truly representative of the difference in talent and performance. Not an accurate comparison. In our last two games at Cowlumbus, OSWho needed LATE scores to beat us. Those two games weren't close because Tressel "let off the gas" in the late going. They actually needed to turn up their play in the late going in order to beat us. I am NOT a big OSU fan. OK we can debate whether OSU 'needed' to do anything. You just said it, OSU wasn't playing well. They were able to 'turn it on' when they needed to. Do you think that OSU may just have done some minimal prep for Akron feeling confident they could 'turn it on' when needed?

OK. We didn't see anything much different than last year. Which,against a well below par OSU team is troubling. The real indicator is Temple. A MAC opponent at home. If that game is not HIGHLY competetive and in my humble opinion if you don't win you must lose by a TD or less,the questions about the coaching staff and its ability to develop a program here become more legit. Given what we saw against a relatively weak OSU team the problems which existed last year are still there. Questionable QB play,poor D secondary,little pressure on the QB no running game...still there. I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before. He didn't need to experience that again just because the starter couldn't get it done. The Temple game is huge as far as the progress or lack thereof of this program is concerned.

So what does it say if the receivers were open but the QB didn't get him the ball. Now if you use the excuse that this was Moore's first game,remember that was a coaches decision. So in this game at least the coaches guy didn't do anything mo(o)re than the guy on the bench. Oh,the secondary still stunk. And,the QB's and WR's they were playing against were who? Was there a running game? How much pressure did the D put on those inexperienced QB's

Some folks thought that this could have been a close game. As I indicated earlier it was my sense that Fickell wasn't going to let off the gas like Tressel always did in these games. Fickell is trying to keep a job. The last thing he wanted to see was some 28-14 game that would give the folks in cornfield Cbus an excuse to complain. Ianello needs to worry about trying to learn how to coach his team. At this point after 13 games under his belt we are waiting to see.

This is an OSU team that is not nearly as good as it has been over the past 10 years. There is nothing that I saw that was significantly different from last year,including the quarteback play. OSU looked lost at times. For Akron to ose in the manner which they did is not a hopeful sign. OSU is not Alabama or Oklahoma.

Once again the secondary is lost!

Afraid by the second half the Zips D won't be able to walk much less run.

Why not. You can't play a game of attrition with these guys.

Freaky pass bad spot by the refs.

OSU looks lost too. Only way is a turnover and a short fieled or a freaky big play.

All ESPN wants to talk about is Tressel and Pryor and all the crap they created. Apparently for them the game is a sidelight.