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Would YSU sign a home and home deal with a D2 team?
Love to know why??? YSU already outdraws Akron in attendance..... and it would benefit each school....... greatly!It has happened in the 80s and 90s.... Why Not Now???
Sorry...not gonna happen.YSU has already said.. the only we play Akron or Can't is if its a home and home, or an away-home-away series for YSU.So no matter what: only way you can increase your attendance at the expense of Youngstown, would be having to come here! -
Sorry...not gonna happen.YSU has already said.. the only we play Akron or Can't is if its a home and home, or an away-home-away series for YSU.So no matter what: only way you can increase your attendance at the expense of Youngstown, would be having to come here! -
No Pitt....lets add Youngstown instead
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You are smart to do so.Rarely is there anything worthwhile to read.Actually, I'm getting a little tired of the MAC forum. A lot of it is the same old stuff over and over and over again.
I usually try to avoid the smack forum. Maybe that's why I missed it up until now.
Actually uakronkid, they've been pounding that one into the ground since it first broke. You can see another thread in the Smack forum.It's mostly the Can't pukes keeping that one alive. Every time the Beacon writes a story, they start another thread.The guys over at the MACbbs have just now found out about the UA scandal involving felons living in the dorms.Bonus: they called us "Akron U"
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Just for the record...I am always "frugal" when it comes to taxpayer money.Hey, I don't even smoke and smokers are the ones who will be paying the bill.Really Zen, I just see another big building in northern Summit county that we'll be trying to find a need for when the soccer team(s) fold.:DIf the soccer thing flops, the only thing it hurts is taxpayers.We get taxed for everything, now all of a sudden we are frugal? fI'm not sure that I have even heard how much the taxes will be for the average person.I noticed that when they needed to pass a tax for the AKRON zoo as a county issue, the zoo suddenly got named summit county zoo on the ballots.
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No, No, No...I have NEVER based my opinion on the soccer stadium because of any perceived impact whatsoever on the Zips Stadium.As far as I'm concerned, they are two seperate issues.I feel the soccer stadium is a waste of taxpayer money. A soccer team will not be successful...period.NEVER have I said that I'm against the soccer stadium because it will hurt the Zips stadium. I have tried to be clear on this.Personally, I feel that the Zips will get their stadium even if they build the soccer stadium. I just feel the soccer stadium is a waste. Just build the shopping center. (without taxpayer money)I also want to say that this heated debate is just that...debate.I hurl no insults nor do I think any less of a person who disagrees.We're all Zips...right?Let me leave by saying one more thingzip81, regardless if you are correct or not, basically what you are doing is attacking the soccer stadium because you perceive it as a threat to the zips football stadium. To me, this is akin to lobbying the city to block a neighborhood resident on your street from trying to get his sidewalk fixed because your afraid it will hurt your chances to attempt the same thing. Argh, crappy metaphor. I am trying to find a way to verbalize how sickening it looks when people would go so negative on something else because they view it as a threat to something virtually distinct
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Actually uakronkid, they've been pounding that one into the ground since it first broke. You can see another thread in the Smack forum.It's mostly the Can't pukes keeping that one alive. Every time the Beacon writes a story, they start another thread.The guys over at the MACbbs have just now found out about the UA scandal involving felons living in the dorms.Bonus: they called us "Akron U"http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/mac/phpbb/vi...pic.php?t=41544 -
Oh, excuse me. You are right. If we have an outdoor team, that will certainly draw thousands and thousands of fans each home game....
I would really love for you to explain what on Earth you are talking about that would show you have a clue what you are talking about.NE Ohio has not HAD a professional outdoor soccer team since the Cleveland Cobras in the 1970s, and has NEVER had a world class club (i.e. MLS).Good luck if you accept your mission.[The precident has already been set.Soccer will not draw in NE Ohio.We have the defunct teams to prove it..teams that were located in the city and the suburbs.This stadium is a waste of money.I hope it dies a quick one. It doesn't matter..indoor or outdoor...professional soccer will not draw here.Too bad I had to explain that...you are nitpicking.Do you really think it makes a difference if the soccer is played indoor or outdoor as to whether it will draw fans?If you believe there is a difference then YOU are the clueless one and really reached to insult someone.
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There is no comparing Columbus with this situation. It is just too different.The precident has already been set.Soccer will not draw in NE Ohio.We have the defunct teams to prove it..teams that were located in the city and the suburbs.This stadium is a waste of money.I hope it dies a quick one.F.Y.I. I live in Columbus and not to long ago Columbus Crew members were going door to door trying to sell discounted ticket packages in an effort to get more fans to come to the games.During the 2005 season the Crew experienced their second worst average attendance since 1996 due to a poor season record.The team has three major supporters' groups: Legion 04, the V-Army, and Fort Knox.Their average attendance * 1996: 18,950 * 1997: 15,043 * 1998: 12,275 * 1999: 17,696 * 2000: 15,451 * 2001: 17,551 * 2002: 17,429 * 2003: 16,250/Missed Playoffs * 2004: 16,872/15,224 * 2005: 12,916/Missed Playoffs * 2006: 13,294/Missed Playoffs * All-Time: 16,344And the Macedonia soccer team wants a stadium how big?Columbus has a population much larger than Macedonia, what the hell do ya think is going to be the attending amount of people there?! -
Yes, it is possible for the cig tax to be passed without putting it on the ballot.But there is no way in H E double hockey sticks that any politician would do that.It would be political suicide.
the ciggy tax CAN go through WITHOUT going to the ballot...why do think that wolstein et al want to go that direction?...cuz they are worried about people like us who WILL NOT vote for it...cuz a soccer stadium/team is stupid..but they are waving the promise of shopping centers etc under the noses of the local yokels to get them to buy it...but w/o the sucker stadium ALL else is off...my suggestion...contact the area state reps and senators....Kevin Coughlin...John Widdowfield...Kim Zurz...they are getting sucked in on this....tell them Uof A has contributed a hell of a lot more to this community since 1870 than the wolsteins or any politician...do it!!! -
I agree. 30K seems about right.However, should the earth quake and he!! freezes over, and Akron wins 5 straight MAC championships and we need a bigger stadium...I would do what they did to Canal Park...build it with the potential to make it bigger.But for now...30k is about right.I suspect that this is more like "neutral" news. Maybe it's a slight plus in that the whole notrthern Summit County soccer stadium/business development plan could be thought of as potential competition to UA's and other's plans for a stadium/shopping/residential development in areas like Spicer town.On another note, I am as big of a Zip fan (anatic) as any, but I have to say that if any of you actually think that a FB stadium with a seating capacity larger than 30K is in the works, I think you are dreaming. Yes, I do think it will be built and it will be successful in bringing more fans, students in particular, to games. But an INITIAL capacity of 35-42K just isn't realistic in any way, shape, or form. That's just my opinion. What would be wrong with something like the Glass Bowl, only an updated version? -
Since you are such a great program...why don't you go IA Independent?Certainly YSU shouldn't bother with a crappy little mid-major like the MAC.As you can see from the MAC forum, there was a lot bigger effort to not letting YSU in than just Akron and Can't.My goodness, those Michigan schools won't hear about ANOTHER Ohio school in the conference.Yes. It is true about Akron and Can't vetoing Youngstown State and supporting Buffalo into the MAC. If you don't believe me: call up Jim Tressel at the Ohio State University, or perhaps call up YSU.... I am sure they have the records since they made a big push for it.You are right it was never voted on, because Akron and Can't never let it get that far... It was all about Buffalo. There was a big thread on JJHuddle.com about this last week, and there were some very informing posts on there from those that do know more.I bet you guys also did not know that YSU Tried to schedule OSU in the mid-90s and it was going to happen until Cooper said no.... he did not want to risk losing to a I-AA team, even if there were a champion....Again.. You wonder why YSU made drawings to make Stambaugh Stadium into a bowl.. we were expecting to join the MAC... And I know our AD and he tells me he would love to go to the MAC, but money is now holding us back!AND YES: YOUNGSTOWN STATE Loss today... and I still showed up....Don't think of me as arrogant... just passionate...YTOWN LOVES FOOTBALL -
I just think back to those days with Coach Huggins when we were an independent....winning, what was it, 21, 22 games a year and still getting passed over for an at-large bid.At-large is very difficult for a mid-major.Zip81 is right on the money!
Just listen to KD being interviewed by French post-game. He says as much. He unmistakably implies (on my read) that the non-MAC part of the schedule is being used to prepare the starting five and whatever bench players he can bring along to march through the MAC schedule and win the tournament and get the NCAA bid.The only chance for the MAC to get an at large is if the Zips win the tournament and the second place team is a team with some strength to its non-league schedule.I don't think there is any way we would get an at-large bid to the show with this type of non-conf schedule. -
What do you think was up tonight?Do you think they had a let down considering the opposition? Tired? What?
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Akron 79WS 67A final
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WS 62Akron 72Much better! But still, much closer than it should be, especially on our home floor.
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Akron 37WS 35in the 2nd half.This is not good.
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Youngstown St. 0 14 3 7 24 Final Appalachian St. 7 21 7 14 49
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When in doubt, go to the MAC experts.I posted this question on the MAC forum. Turns out the MAC never even voted on admitting Youngstown.And his accusations against Akron and Can't seem to be false. If anyone was against admitting YSU, it was the Michigan schools.As you will read, few MAC fans have any favorable comments about YSU.So our Penguin friend doesn't know what he is talking about.http://www.ncaabbs.com/forums/mac/phpbb/vi...pic.php?t=413432 Questions1. Besides Marshall, and Central Florida who was once but no longer a conference member.2. My original question did AKron and Can't reject YSU from entering the MAC, and if they did how?Please and Thanks, -
This is a nice site uakronkid.Thanks for passing it on!They have this awesome feature at Mid-Majority that shows how the MAC has done against every other conference they have played. So far the conference is 39-43, which is a losing record, and is bad for us. Here is the link. -
I don't think there is any way we would get an at-large bid to the show with this type of non-conf schedule.No, I'm afraid we have to win the MAC. Otherwise, it's the NIT....again.Ouch... either we win against Nevada or we don't have a leg to stand on in making a case for an at-large bid. -
I know these are tune up games. I can understand playing some patsies before MAC play. But do we have to schedule so many?It wasn't that long ago that Binghampton and WS were Division II.Lets get the MAC season underway!
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The Utah stadium appeared in 1998...no doubt, costs have increased since then....but this is a nice stadium.Also if you look at the cost it's right in our price range too. Which makes me wonder why we think 40 mill will only get us a smaller stadium (25k-30k) rather than the 45k that Rice-Eccles seats, and it had sky boxes!!! -
The MAC started in 1946 with charter members Butler, Cincinnati, Miami, OU, Western Michigan and Western Reserve.Butler withdraws in 1950 (joins Indiana Collegiate Conference)Can't and Toledo added in 1951BG added in 1952 Cincinnati withdraws in 1953 (went independent)Marshall added in 1954Western Reserve (Case) withdraws in 1955 (joins President's Athletic Conf)Marshall withdraws in 1969 (went independent)Central Mich and Eastern Mich added in 1972 (CMU begin play in 1975, EMU in 1976)Ball St and N. Illinois in 1973 (both begin play in 1975)N. Illinois withdraws in 1986 (goes independent)Akron added in 1991 (begin play in 1992)Marshall and N. Illinois rejoin in 1995 (resume play in 1997)Buffalo added in 1995 (play in 1999)Central Fla added (football only) in 2002Marshall and Central Florida withdraw in 2005 (join CUSA)Temple joins (football only) in 2007I can not answer with direct knowledge if Akron and Can't voted against YSU joining the MAC. Sorry, maybe someone can help with that one.2 Questions1. Besides Marshall, and Central Florida who was once but no longer a conference member.2. My original question did AKron and Can't reject YSU from entering the MAC, and if they did how?Please and Thanks,
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