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I like both of their games. Long term, Forsythe has the potential to be better on the offensive end with some development. He appears very comfortable with the ball in his hands. Just needs to get some shots to drop. I'm not sure what to make of the blocked shots stats. Are more teams willing to take the ball inside against Forsythe at this point opening up more opportunities? Maybe. I think a lot of teams are reluctant to challenge Zeke at this point and try to be productive in other areas. Zeke has a national reputation for blocked shots and the word may not be out yet on Forsythe being able to block shots...I take that back. The word is now out.

That's more than one comment. Next time, start a thread called "Bitchers R Us". Please review subtitle.

Me neither. Zero offensive rebounds. A seven foot player, high school all american, one time mac tournament mvp, etc. should have at least ten rebounds in a game like this. Two blocks? Should be more in a game like this. If Zeke is really an NBA player, he has to have more than just Twelve points with very pedestrian stats everywhere else against top notch teams. The nba isn't ccu or unca. I'm pulling for Zeke to make the nba, but today wasn't good enough.

Huge problem. After nine years, KD shouldn't have three freshmen playing in a meaningful game like this. The development of the older players should have separated them to the point there is a huge difference between first year and upper class players. The problem is the development of players, or the lack there of. To illuminate the problem is to shine a light on a part of the program we are not shining a realistic light on. Stale.

Would anyone like to post a score?

Censorship is worthy of complaining about.

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If you can hear them, yes. If the feed is bad and you feel like talking about it, no....start another thread for that.

Post about anything but the video or audio quality.

OOC performance. Eyes.

This is my first time reading you say this. Who have you been saying this to and do you have ir copywrited?

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Actually, I predicted an undefeated December.

JSU just had a blocked field goal. Their kicker must be too short.

Anyone watching espnu?

The reasons I use the word "could" in my post is regardless of what happens in our bowls, I will still be impressed. I don't put a lot of weight into bowl results defining the quality of a conference unless that conference falls in its face or exceeds expectation by winning 80% or more in a minimum of five games. Bowl games are exhibition games and it isn't unusual for a team to take a more casual approach to the games. Fans don't like to hear that, but is often the case.

Good question. I'm not sure why any school has to be proud of the league they are in. Should ACC schools be proud of playing football in the ACC? It is a pretty terrible league, so I don't know. I do know this, MAC fans should be very impressed with the year the league has had in football. At least three wins against BCS level teams, two teams in the Top 25, one team going to a BCS Bowl, coaches getting plucked out to go coach at bigger name schools, etc. Could be more to be impressed with by the end of bowl season.

If college basketball has showed us anything the past few years, it's the name on the front of the jersey doesn't mean as much as it used to. I wouldn't base our chances on how the Zips do against Creighton based upon a win against Nebraska. Wake is horrible. USC is horrible. Valpo doesn't play anyone and when they do, they lose more often than win. Any team that has the talent to only score 42 points in a college basketball game is probably below average. I'm not so concerned about the "names" the Blue Jays have beaten as much as I'm concerned about a team that is 8-1 right now and doesn't fold against the "name" teams. The Blue Jays get the job done. The Zips had better be ready to play. No excuses! This is a game the Zips need to pull out if we are looking to take the "next step".....and keep going my prediction of an undefeated December.

Not only would I tell him thanks but not thanks if I was K E N T, but I'd do the same thing if I was Purdue. They are paying him a lot of money for winning in the future. He needs to get to work.

To say he hasn't done anything isn't really fair. To say he hasn't produced more winning is right on the money. I also wouldn't use the word adulation to describe how fans are reacting to him. I think fans see the improvement in the team and are sick of complaining endlessly about everything under the sun about their football team. If they want to complain endlessly, they can go on a Browns site. Is 3 wins enough? No. There is enough change in the MAC going in to next season that we should be able to take advantage of some of that. If I was a betting person, I would bet on the MAC being in decline next year with the Zips being on the ascent so I expect more than 3 wins. Where are the recruits? We'll find out. The recruiting forum is sort of quite, but that could be for more reasons than just no recruits. TB didn't have much time to recruit last year so anyone who expected him to have a great class last season would have been foolish. I expect/demand a much better class this year.

This is the part that I wonder about. The Zips product is excellent right now and people aren't buying. The fact that they are good is no secret. It doesn't take much effort besides clicking on a few websites to find out about when the Zips are playing and who they are playing. The rest of this post will be directed to the general readers. In order to market even a good product that has been good for a long time, something exciting has to catch the customer or they think it is the same old product. What have fans heard about the Zips thus far? 1. Two players suspended because the babysitters who run the athletic department can't get simple NCAA paperwork filled out. 2. Loss to an easily beatable CCU. 3. Loss to a big time team in OK State in PR. 4. Wins over UNCA, PSU, JCU and Malone..... 5. Win against a good, yet not well known, MTSU on an NFL Sunday. Please be honest and someone/everyone tell me how to generate interest around these points thus far. Ever watch a really good movie with an exciting ending? The next time you watch it, you skip to the exciting end and not the good middle/beginning. This is where the program is. I mentioned this earlier this season. The program is a little stale for a lot of fans. They know it is good, but there isn't that "something" catching their attention. The part that will capture their attention comes at the end of the season in the MAC Tournament/NIT/NCAA/Whatever. Something different has to happen at the end of the year to capture attention for next year. Until then, it is the same old story.

This AD sounds like a real stand up guy.....NOT. Why is it the responsibility of the coach to get people interested in the program? The coaches job is to get good players and win games. If this guy wants to fire a multiple 20 win season after on 15-16 record, I guess there is some small justification for that. Do I have to do another "When ADs Strike" post?

Further expansion on my horse analogy. FSU has "West Virginia Derby" horses. If you go to the WV Derby each year, there will be a horse or two who ran in the Kentucky Derby. Typically, they came in middle of the back to bottom of the pack in then Kentucky Derby. Better than the future glue factory participants in the WV Derby, but not quite up to snuff against the best of the best. I just described the ACC and by extension FSU. NIU could finish in the money in the WV Derby if they were a horse. Some things would have to go right for them to win, but they could win.

How about a PhD dissertation on the Paul Brown coaching tree and his influence on the game? Coaching tree found near the middle of the information.

Article I think this is a well reasoned article. Why should some Athlete-Students have to pretend about their reasoning for being in college? The point I think this author does not touch on, as probably the readership of the Chronicle of Higher Education already understands, is the discussion of what a science is? A science is a body of knowledge about a particular issue. Engineering is a science. Electrical Engineer is a discipline within Engineering so it becomes a part of the Engineering College where they study those sciences and understand that body of knowledge. Theology is also a science, or body of knowledge, about religion. It may not use many calculators, but a science none the less. Why couldn't football or basketball be a science? Both have probably millions of hours of their sport recorded for review and study. When someone writes a dissertation, the main purpose of that document is to provide an understanding of something new in that science. Does anyone think a person like Paul Brown didn't introduce ideas and concepts that changed an existing body of knowledge? On many levels, aren't coaches sitting around in their offices for countless hours watching video and trying to gather a better understanding in order to explain it to a player scientists on some level?