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What if the rules are unjust to the point of being immoral?

Because there is a demand for their services. If a non athlete could make $1,250/hour, why shouldn't they be allowed to? It's called a free country. It would be terrible for college football to have a viable minor league football system. There would be a huge decline in the quality of play across the board. The talent makes the game entertaining, not the game itself. If you think the MAC is bad now.....yikes. The reason players don't do the arena league or whatever league is out there is they aren't realistic methods of showing off their talents.

Here is an example. Jock sniffing car dealer in Columbus pays a player $5,000 to sign autographs for four hours on one Saturday, or however often he wants to sign. Player would have to work 500 hours at $10/hr to make that kind of money. They would have jobs unlike most students, but it is a free country after all.

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries. They are allowed to hold a job. What makes you think they can't? It is against NCAA rules for a player to hold a job during the spring and fall semesters. They should be allowed to hold a job year around. They should be allowed to legally make money.

I got a good laugh out of that as well. Last January, one would have thought tosu won the national championship when they beat a fifth place, middling SEC program in a meaningless bowl game.

This is the reason why student athletes should be able to hold a job while in school. Allowinig it to happens brings all of the money into the open and requiring laws to be followed. As it stands now, schools are taking 18-23 year old people and turning them into criminals before most ever get into the working world. The ncaa is run by despicable people and even more despicable people (the universities themselves) pay their salaries.

Are you saying people say it is one way, but it's the other way? I'm personally shocked that would be the case.....NOT.

I agree. I'm not sure where we have more exposure other than in football. That exposure comes at the expense of playing on Tuesday nights in front of 95% empty stadiums in late Oct and Nov. That's exactly the kind of exposure we don't need. Maybe nobody else wants the job.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it. Wow.. great prediction. That would be impressive had it been BEFORE the NCAA said it would never again hand out a death penalty. We're both wrong. Two schools received the death penalty since smu in lower divisions. Actually Doug, I was only wrong once. You were wrong twice. Congrats, you win.

My prediction is the ncaa will never hand out the death penalty again after what happened to smu after they received it.

This is going to be the other shoe and lots of people in Columbus know it. The corruption at tosu goes far beyond the football program it is only getting started. The car dealership is going to be much bigger than Tatgate.

There is some argument as to which vest Tressel will be wearing to work this fall. There is no question....The name badge clearly says "James" on it. It's his.

What part of the SI article has been debunked?

Terry Pluto gets opinion from his favorite loveable loser. How did Pluto not get laughed out of the editors room when he handed in this story?

I think that a lot of people look at tOSU fans in almost a sympathetic way...I don't, but some may. For ten years tOSU fans, when they weren't packing on a pound of fat a day, made fools of themselves telling everyone how great the program was because of the Big Ten Championships, beating Michigan and BCS appearances. As it turns out, all of those "accomplishments" are hollow. Accomplishments made meaningless because of a lying, cheating scumbag of a coach heading up a dirty football program in a dirty Athletic Department. Having been made a fool of can't sit well with tOSU fans. Having been made a fool of by a THUG con artist of a coach must be upsetting for the fans. Fans knowing that the tainted and hollow accomplishments of the past decade must be upsetting. Everything tOSU did over the past ten years should have the following symbol next to it..... *. Instead of a mascot wearing a nut on his head, he should have to wear a * on his head. It would be the most fitting symbol of the past ten years. How does it feel to be duped?

They can do this right after they cut the league back to 10-11 teams.

Interesting stats DrZ. Thanks for posting. I'm surprised Getsy had the most touchdowns in a season & game. Maybe not a season because they played one more game in 2005 compared to 2003, but Owens had teams that scored a lot. I'm shocked Frye isn't at the top of those two. I like the touchdown in a season & game statistic Getsy has. Charlie has a lot of records that come with starting four years. Charlie also has a lot that look good, but aren't near the top of things you want your QB to do. For example, completions in a game are nice only if you win the game or they turn into TDs. Charlie played in an offense that flooded the field with WRs and he picked the open one. Not hard to do compared to the pro style offense Getsy played. Getsy got run out of town, but when he was on, he was deadly. Just ask NIU.

I'll never forget the Marshall punter fumbling a snap from center. It was exactly the kind of thing that normally happens to the Zips.

Of those on the list, Dwight Smith is the best. He could do it all. Ints., blocked kicks, returned kicks and played offense. Single handedly won games. Chase Blackburn was a better player than both Frye and Hixon.

I guess it would be fair to say that is ONE reason. The main reason we don't draw fans is our team has been so bad, nobody can stand to go watch them lose time and again. If Tressel came to town and lost at the rate we have been losing the past 20+ years, nobody would come to the games.

Interesting thought ZW. I'd think Tournament MVP goes to the best player that weekend and normally to a guy on the winning team. If Miami doesn't make a miracle shot, we have another Tournament MVP, etc. The season MVP goes to a guy who displays excellence over an entire season. Of the three above, Marshall has the most potential to be the best all time. Next year needs to be the break-out year. He needs to average 15+ points per game and 8+ blocked shots per game the next two years to be considered one of the all time greats. I don't think it's asking too much for a high school all American, seven foot tall and a one day four year letterman to average 15+ points per game in the MAC in his junior and senior seasons. In fact, that production should be easy to get.

I'd love to know how long that 30 day tag has been on that car.

Great questions. I like guys who are good leaders and help the team succeed in spite of maybe not having the best athletic ability (see how much I like Brett Biggs in football). For basketball, this guy was Dru J. Too small, too skinny, to slow, not a great shooter, but he won and was invaluable to his coach. I know he isn't the greatest player ever, but he deserves a mention in this topic. No Marcel Boyce? ZipsWin! is going to have something to say about that.

That was yesterday at a players only meeting according to fox Cowlumbus. Nissan 350z My bad. ESPN is reporting it like they broke the story...like they always do (read God Save The Fan to learn more).

Instead of agreeing, you should slap them in the face and call them a bunch of bitches.