GP1

I tend to agree. However, I would like to come to the defense of Jones Jr High. I'm sure that every once in a while, the administrator at JJH makes a good decision. I'm still waiting for a good decision by TW. I still have not forgotten the Reno disaster that basically ruined the career of a good guy. If Karma does exist, TW will get fired and never come close to having a good job again. A friend told me that Reno is putting his West Point Engineering degree to use, and is working in Louisiana/Alabama area (subcontracted by BP to work with them on the oil spill clean up). He's doing well. Great news! Maybe TW could go to work for him bagging tar balls.

Syracuse will win and cover the 8.5 pts.

I dont' care how many people are at the game. That number is easy to inflate with free tickets. I want to know how many people are paying to walk through the gate.

I tend to agree. However, I would like to come to the defense of Jones Jr High. I'm sure that every once in a while, the administrator at JJH makes a good decision. I'm still waiting for a good decision by TW. I still have not forgotten the Reno disaster that basically ruined the career of a good guy. If Karma does exist, TW will get fired and never come close to having a good job again.

I think three years is a good time period as well. I think during that time period, the University needs to look at all options internally, with the MAC membership and non-BCS schools. If things are not working out in the next three years, changes will need to be made. At least if they talk about a division between I-AA and I-A now, some thought will have been put into it before it actually happens. A fourth year of transition may be needed, but it could happen. My biggest concern is we do nothing and allow ourselves to become an even further victim of the BCS schools. If they create their own division on their terms, we are screwed as we will have had no say. If we create our own division on our own, we dicide what we look like and who we are going to go to bat with. Let's do things on our terms. If you can't see that there are going to be drastic changes in college football in the next 4-5 years, you either choose to ignore the change or you simply aren't paying attention. College football is changing rapidly and will continue. Nebraska decided to take the bull by the horns and decide their own fate. Colorado did the same thing. We and the rest of the non-BCS schools need to dictate our moves. Is the non-BCS component of FBS football already a division within a division of College Football? Why make it official in it is not required. Sure BCS schools have an undeniable advantage over MAC, WAC, Sunbelt, Mountain West, and C-USA teams but they spend much more as well. Your approach of “going out on our own terms” is similar to preemptively quitting when you know you are about to be fired. There is no indication that FBS plans to cut ties with the rest of FBS. In fact, they are already fighting off challenges that the organization is a monopolistic organization. BCS teams could gain a little I guess by not having to tip out the 5 lowly conferences but they would in turn not be supporting a competitive pool from which to purchase some quality games and purchase some wins. Make it official so they can't co-mingle.

Pretty flimsy evidence of "moving forward" (at least he didn't use the word "build") if you ask me.

I think three years is a good time period as well. I think during that time period, the University needs to look at all options internally, with the MAC membership and non-BCS schools. If things are not working out in the next three years, changes will need to be made. At least if they talk about a division between I-AA and I-A now, some thought will have been put into it before it actually happens. A fourth year of transition may be needed, but it could happen. My biggest concern is we do nothing and allow ourselves to become an even further victim of the BCS schools. If they create their own division on their terms, we are screwed as we will have had no say. If we create our own division on our own, we dicide what we look like and who we are going to go to bat with. Let's do things on our terms. If you can't see that there are going to be drastic changes in college football in the next 4-5 years, you either choose to ignore the change or you simply aren't paying attention. College football is changing rapidly and will continue. Nebraska decided to take the bull by the horns and decide their own fate. Colorado did the same thing. We and the rest of the non-BCS schools need to dictate our moves.

I think most of you are missing GP-1's point. Which, as I understand, is: Akron's existence as some kind of "major college" football program is nothing but a pretense. They are not now, and have virtually no chance in the future of becoming a major player in college football. Unfortunately, at this point in time, I am afraid the weight of the evidence is in GP-1's corner. But the part I don't understand personally, is all the emotion being blown off at how the University of Akron's status in college football reflects the status of the city of Akron vis-a-vis similar and familiar cities. Is Akron a better place to live than Youngstown based on its college football experience? Does it mean that Akron is a better city than Cleveland, because the Forest City/Mistake on the Lake (choose your favorite) lacks a FBS football program? There are many excellent locales -- and many great universities which provide development and pride to their areas, which have no college football at all. I knew Z.I.P. would get it. He's a smart guy who only had to use a fraction of his reading ability to understand what I am saying. Don't let emotion get in the way of doing the right thing or listening to others. UofA did the right thing by building the Big Dialer. It is still not enough to compete at the highest level. It is enough to help compete in a division between D-1A and I-AA. What UofA really needs to do is play to its strengths. Our strengths are soccer and MBB. We could have a great football team if we, the MAC and the other non-BCS schools could had a way to escape the BCS schools. It would be a great college division.

Does this guy look like a porn addict to you? Actually.....yes he does. I'm not kidding either.

I don't disagree. I only care about the football team and being competitive in the MAC and in general against like competition. We can be competitive against the MAC and other non-BCS schools in our own division somewhere between BCS and I-AA. If we don't find a way to make it happen with our conference and other like conferences, the NCAA is going to do it for us.....that will not be good for us.

Remains manageable until it isn't. I read this all the time about government spending as it relates to GDP. Anyhow, like I keep saying. It isn't droping down. It could just be a realignment of college football.

I'll ask everyone again. What evidence is there showing we are a D-IA school and the MAC is a D-1A conference in anything but saying they are?

What goes on around UofA should have nothing to do with what goes on at UofA.

Them? We haven't found one!!! It's been 20+ years. Is Moses leading the Athletic Department/MAC?

When the BCS was created, did anyone say those schools were moving up? Of course not. I realize it isn't a division of the NCAA officially, but it basically is. If the non-BCS schools created their own division, why would that be moving down?

Hangover? What hangover? I don't see any problems in our society today with our government and citizens spending like drunken sailors..... Wait a minute, we're as broke as a welfare recipient on the last day of the month.

You need to think harder. My posts have been centered around much more than money. Level competition has always been at the center of my posts. Ideas such as fans not getting ripped off for having to purchase tickets for Miami (OH) vs. Florida have also been at the center of my posts.....Florida is stealing from their fans, and Miami is whoring the football program out....How is that good for college football? If you do want to talk about money, we can do that. What are the expenses going to be to make the MAC and UofA a real D-1A school that can effectively compete with every other, and that means BCS schools out there? How much "building" can the Univeristy and taxpayers take?....We have a 25,000 seat stadium so how much woudl it be to tripple the size? Can they afford it? Can they support it if it is built. My opinion has less to do with saving money and more to do with the existing landscape of college football and a desire to watch teams in college football compete at the same level. We are a D-1A school in name only. The MAC is a D-1A conference in name only. There are going to be even more changes in college football over the next five year. The BCS schools are going to dictate the terms of those changes. Nobody is going to ask the MAC leadership what they think about BCS level changes in terms of a playoff and the size, membership and direction of their conference. The MAC is already a non-factor in those discussions. If the MAC needs to make a move on its own, it needs to do so before the BCS schools make the move for them. If that is a separate level of college football somewhere between D-1 and I-AA, then fine. There area already four divisions, would another really hurt? Would the walls of The Big Dialer really come crashing down if we played all of the same MAC schools and had a OOC schedule of Marshall, Florida Atlantic, Nevada and pick a I-AA school? That would be a Hell of a good schedule. Let the BCS schools play one another without their early season fodder and let the non-BCS schools play some games where they have a chance to win and a chance at a national championship. I-AA or another division could do that. So Akron pounding Morgan State and more than likely Gardner Webb isn't stealing from our fans? Get off the I-AA and moving down BS. It is stealing. It is also part of what is wrong with college football when intermixing of teams at vastly different capabilities is allowed. The problem is BCS teams load up on three non-bcs teams a year to pad their wins. I don't know if what I want is moving down or more of a reorganization of college football. I find it hard to believe that 130 DI teams compete at the same level. I know by the NCAA rules they do, but in reality they don't. Do some of you really not see the changes coming in the NCAA? If you don't, why not? If you do, what should we do about it is the question.... It seems as if the answer the MAC has is sit around and wait for everyone else to decide what they are going to do and just fall victim to the change. That's a terrible position to take. 300+D1 basketball teams dont compete on the same level either. I can't see college basketball ditching 3/4 of their schools to make things more competitive. You're right, they don't. D-IA basketball should downsize as well. It would breed more competition in what has become a meaningless regular season.

We love to debate this so I have a good analogy. Will the MAC suffer the same fate as Pluto. Growing up, Pluto was a planet damn it and we all knew it. After looking at it for a while, scientists have had second thoughts about Pluto being a planet. In fact, it is no longer a planet for the reasons outlined in the link. Maybe we need to look at the MAC and other non-bcs schools and ask ourselves if they are really D-1A conferences or not. If they aren't, what are they? If they are, why? Is the MAC a Dwarf D-1A conference like Pluto is a Dwarf Planet? I don't know why everyone gets so upset at these questions. Questions are part of being human and are at the core of learning...UofA is a learning institution. Being a Dwarf Conference is a heck of a lot better than being an asteroid (I-AA). We need to decide what we are and where we need to be. If it is a new division of football, then so be it.....something between D-1A and I-AA. Pluto is still going around the Sun even though it is not called a planet. Pluto still has a ton of fans. There is even a Pluto fan club. The MAC will still have college football if it is no longer a D-1A conference. There might even be more fans if the NCAA did it right. Pluto probably has more fans today than it did when it was a planet.

You need to think harder. My posts have been centered around much more than money. Level competition has always been at the center of my posts. Ideas such as fans not getting ripped off for having to purchase tickets for Miami (OH) vs. Florida have also been at the center of my posts.....Florida is stealing from their fans, and Miami is whoring the football program out....How is that good for college football? If you do want to talk about money, we can do that. What are the expenses going to be to make the MAC and UofA a real D-1A school that can effectively compete with every other, and that means BCS schools out there? How much "building" can the Univeristy and taxpayers take?....We have a 25,000 seat stadium so how much woudl it be to tripple the size? Can they afford it? Can they support it if it is built. My opinion has less to do with saving money and more to do with the existing landscape of college football and a desire to watch teams in college football compete at the same level. We are a D-1A school in name only. The MAC is a D-1A conference in name only. There are going to be even more changes in college football over the next five year. The BCS schools are going to dictate the terms of those changes. Nobody is going to ask the MAC leadership what they think about BCS level changes in terms of a playoff and the size, membership and direction of their conference. The MAC is already a non-factor in those discussions. If the MAC needs to make a move on its own, it needs to do so before the BCS schools make the move for them. If that is a separate level of college football somewhere between D-1 and I-AA, then fine. There area already four divisions, would another really hurt? Would the walls of The Big Dialer really come crashing down if we played all of the same MAC schools and had a OOC schedule of Marshall, Florida Atlantic, Nevada and pick a I-AA school? That would be a Hell of a good schedule. Let the BCS schools play one another without their early season fodder and let the non-BCS schools play some games where they have a chance to win and a chance at a national championship. I-AA or another division could do that. So Akron pounding Morgan State and more than likely Gardner Webb isn't stealing from our fans? Get off the I-AA and moving down BS. It is stealing. It is also part of what is wrong with college football when intermixing of teams at vastly different capabilities is allowed. The problem is BCS teams load up on three non-bcs teams a year to pad their wins. I don't know if what I want is moving down or more of a reorganization of college football. I find it hard to believe that 130 DI teams compete at the same level. I know by the NCAA rules they do, but in reality they don't. Do some of you really not see the changes coming in the NCAA? If you don't, why not? If you do, what should we do about it is the question.... It seems as if the answer the MAC has is sit around and wait for everyone else to decide what they are going to do and just fall victim to the change. That's a terrible position to take.

You need to think harder. My posts have been centered around much more than money. Level competition has always been at the center of my posts. Ideas such as fans not getting ripped off for having to purchase tickets for Miami (OH) vs. Florida have also been at the center of my posts.....Florida is stealing from their fans, and Miami is whoring the football program out....How is that good for college football? If you do want to talk about money, we can do that. What are the expenses going to be to make the MAC and UofA a real D-1A school that can effectively compete with every other, and that means BCS schools out there? How much "building" can the Univeristy and taxpayers take?....We have a 25,000 seat stadium so how much woudl it be to tripple the size? Can they afford it? Can they support it if it is built. My opinion has less to do with saving money and more to do with the existing landscape of college football and a desire to watch teams in college football compete at the same level. We are a D-1A school in name only. The MAC is a D-1A conference in name only. There are going to be even more changes in college football over the next five year. The BCS schools are going to dictate the terms of those changes. Nobody is going to ask the MAC leadership what they think about BCS level changes in terms of a playoff and the size, membership and direction of their conference. The MAC is already a non-factor in those discussions. If the MAC needs to make a move on its own, it needs to do so before the BCS schools make the move for them. If that is a separate level of college football somewhere between D-1 and I-AA, then fine. There area already four divisions, would another really hurt? Would the walls of The Big Dialer really come crashing down if we played all of the same MAC schools and had a OOC schedule of Marshall, Florida Atlantic, Nevada and pick a I-AA school? That would be a Hell of a good schedule. Let the BCS schools play one another without their early season fodder and let the non-BCS schools play some games where they have a chance to win and a chance at a national championship. I-AA or another division could do that.

Syracuse isn't the New York flagship university, Buffalo is. I thought it was Army. You would think Navy would be the only flagship university.

Miami is not one of the schools I expected to be on the "move down" side of the MAC. I always thought their pride in their tradition would be enough to carry them through and make moving down an unthinkable proposition. Akron is quickly being isolated in the MAC as a school with a desire to improve athletics. Still, I think if the MAC dropped some weight then things would look better for the schools that stayed. I don't really disagree with your post. Since the 1970s, Miami has had spurts of being good with long stretches of being really bad being the norm. I believe Miami has made a decision to basically have a football team because they have to. What Miami really has is a nationally ranked hockey team and I believe that is going to be the focus of their AD. UofA could do the same thing with the soccer program. I've been saying for a long time on this board and I get crucified every time I say it, but it appears as if it is going to come true faster than I even thought it would. The MAC needs to drop down to I-AA before the BCS schools and the NCAA do it for them. If we do it on our terms, I will be the best scenario. If we do it on their terms, it will be a shitty deal. The league is a I-AA league right now that just calls itself D-1A. The party is over. MAC schools and our society in general don't have the money to sustain the costs it takes for everyone to constantly be in a "building process". What has been built in the MAC in terms of facilities is still small time in comparison to what BCS schools have. If you have any doubts, take a drive down to Columbus and drive around the basketball arena and look at their sports complex. Ours doesn't even come close to that. That statement is neither pro, nor con, tOSU.....It's just a fact. Us being behind is never going to change because the party is over and there is no more money to throw at sports teams. What we do have are really good facilities compared to the I-AA schools. The MAC would be the best I-AA conference and the champion would stand a good shot at winning the National Championship each year. Sorry guys...the party is over. I don't say that to be an a-hole or anything else. Just take a look around at our society. Is there anyone out there who believes there is money sitting around for UofA to become a BCS level school? We're freaking broke for crying out loud. It was fun to debate these issues the past few years, but the reality of our society in the past two years has changed everything. There is NO FREAKING MONEY. No money = no "building". I hope they tear down the stadium and get rid of the football program before they drop to I-AA. I have zero interest in I-AA ball. Be careful of what you wish for.... The MAC is already I-AA.

Miami is not one of the schools I expected to be on the "move down" side of the MAC. I always thought their pride in their tradition would be enough to carry them through and make moving down an unthinkable proposition. Akron is quickly being isolated in the MAC as a school with a desire to improve athletics. Still, I think if the MAC dropped some weight then things would look better for the schools that stayed. I don't really disagree with your post. Since the 1970s, Miami has had spurts of being good with long stretches of being really bad being the norm. I believe Miami has made a decision to basically have a football team because they have to. What Miami really has is a nationally ranked hockey team and I believe that is going to be the focus of their AD. UofA could do the same thing with the soccer program. I've been saying for a long time on this board and I get crucified every time I say it, but it appears as if it is going to come true faster than I even thought it would. The MAC needs to drop down to I-AA before the BCS schools and the NCAA do it for them. If we do it on our terms, I will be the best scenario. If we do it on their terms, it will be a shitty deal. The league is a I-AA league right now that just calls itself D-1A. The party is over. MAC schools and our society in general don't have the money to sustain the costs it takes for everyone to constantly be in a "building process". What has been built in the MAC in terms of facilities is still small time in comparison to what BCS schools have. If you have any doubts, take a drive down to Columbus and drive around the basketball arena and look at their sports complex. Ours doesn't even come close to that. That statement is neither pro, nor con, tOSU.....It's just a fact. Us being behind is never going to change because the party is over and there is no more money to throw at sports teams. What we do have are really good facilities compared to the I-AA schools. The MAC would be the best I-AA conference and the champion would stand a good shot at winning the National Championship each year. Sorry guys...the party is over. I don't say that to be an a-hole or anything else. Just take a look around at our society. Is there anyone out there who believes there is money sitting around for UofA to become a BCS level school? We're freaking broke for crying out loud. It was fun to debate these issues the past few years, but the reality of our society in the past two years has changed everything. There is NO FREAKING MONEY. No money = no "building".

Do you really think it is the responsibility of the coaching staff to update the web page? Gentlemen= I am not blaming the coach for the web page/web site updating. My reference about the coaching staff was much more about the depth chart and making sure it had been submitted to someone (who...I don't know). I'm sure SOMEONE at UA could put together a depth chart, but coaches are responsible everywhere for SUBMITTING (not POSTING) the "true" depth chart. They do have depth charts. They change every day during two-a-day practices based upon the performance of the players in the previous practice. I'm sure if the web master wants one, all he has to do is ask. I'm less worried about depth charts and rosters, and more worried about what they are going to do this Saturday. I don't care about their names, who their parents are, what their favorite snack is, where they are from, what year they are in or anything else other than how they perform this Saturday. It's time to start winning....I really could care less about the person in the uniform. 20+ years of losing has been enough for me.

I also find it disappointing. Our Athletic Dept. is probably too busy kissing the backside of someone who never played basketball at UA (and changes with the wind) to concern themselves with an NFL star who is one of our own. I think it is more complicated than that. A problem we have is the constant turnover when ADs change every 3 years. A positive about George Van Horne working in Athletics is he is committed to UofA and should develop a lasting relationship with JT. Even if George takes another job in Development, he should always maintain the JT "account". I agree with the LBJppreciation Day nonsense was just that...nonsense. What good came out of it?