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I respectfully disagree. Our efforts have been in building facilities assuming they would lead to winning. Nobody ever said, "How fast will this new stadium run the 40 yard dash?" or "Can the field actually catch a ball?" What we haven't invested in is the support staff to recruit and retain at risk kids who are extremely talented. There has been some increase, but not enough. When JD got bit by issues such as this, he retreated to what Faust did and brought in less talented players.

Anyone who sits through four quarters of this Zips team and OU would need that bong as a much needed retreat after the game.

Honestly, I think I would like to see us win and start to play well. That's just me though. If your sole purpose to Akron football is to wait for a coach to be fired that we just hired, stop back in three years. +1 Losing is a cancer. The more you lose, the more you are going to lose. The more you win, the more you win. Bill Cowher always says that a team is most dangerous when they have confidence and momentum. We don't have either. You can change coaches every year forever. Unless the culture of losing changes, nothing is going to change. Everyone in NE Ohio waits for a savior to come along and save everything. There are 85 saviors on that team with the ability to change the direction of the program. They ALL need to start to play better and win some games. With that said, we still need a change in coaching. My problems with iCoach are philosophical. I don't think we can win with a pro style offense and I've outlined the reasons many times on this board. I don't think he is a bad coach or a jerk or a bad person or a stupid guy either. He's probably a good guy who knows a lot about pro style offenses and under the right conditions, his philosophy would probably work. It isn't going to work here though.

If you are losing money either way, it doesn't matter. At this point, they discount the tickets to $5 and they are no better than they were 20 years ago. Everything has a value. I wouldn't say I wouldn't go if they paid me, because I would. Below is what it would cost to get me to go to a game when I am 20 miles from the stadium the day after Thanksgiving this year. 1. Gas from N. Canton to Infocision $5.00 2. Sitting in the cold and rain for four hours...$100/hour = $400 3. Missing time with the family because nobody in their right mind would go with me...including my wife, Mrs. GP1, the luckiest woman in the world. $1,000 4. Missing the Pens game $400 5. Irritation $50 If UofA will pay me $1,855, I would be more than happy to attend the final game of the season. Other than that, there is no way I pay a penny to go watch them play.

Rumor has it, they are going to try to squeeze a game in Weds against Urbana to reach what they would consider perfection....120 out of 120.

We really do. When the football team is terrible, it takes the energy out of the rest of the Athletic Department. Meaning, the public has trouble getting jumpstarted after a bad football season. The BB team will have to impress early on and get the energy back up to where it needs to be.

It could. Athletic departments hand down so many rules to players, they all should have their own law student assigned to them to keep them from breaking them. For all we know, he overslept and missed an 8 AM class.

Then we could change our name to The University of Akron Browns.

Just build a new stadium and you will be good.....It worked for us.......

Or, creating their own division between I-AA and I-A. That's the key.

I love the baseball reference. The Zips/MAC are the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Sun Belt/pick a team are the Cleveland Indians. There is no hope for these teams in the current economic climate of baseball. There is no hope for the Zips, etc. in the current climate of college football. One can go to a Pirates/Indians game and pretend they are watching big league play, but they aren't. One can go to a MAC game and pretend they are watching big time college football, but they aren't. It's all about how much reality you want to live in.

It isn't all about money. They can get away with losing more money. There is no end in sight to the amount of money the taxpayers in Ohio (5th most taxed population in America) will flush down the drain on stupid ideas. Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame.....The Inventors Hall of Fame in Akron...(insert name of the many white elephants erected in Ohio over the past decade here) the list could go on and on. I'm sure they can find some money somewhere to keep the Zips ship sailing. Pass it off as an "Economic Growth Plan". They'll pay for anything that sounds like that. Listen carefully everyone....They need to create a division with their peers between I-A and I-AA. Montana and the rest of the WAC can join them. OK, if there is increased loss of money, add it up for me. Assume we could still whore ourselves out once a year to tOSU, then assume we couldn't. $1.0 million isn't that much to make up and is a drop in the bucket compared to what they spend at the University yearly.

Up until Saturday, the QB of Alabama had not lost a game since 7th grade. It must have been one Hell of a lesson. I doubt you can teach a 7th grader a lesson that lasts that long. Some players just win. Some programs just win. Some coaches just win. Our players, coaches and overall program don't win. It's not all on the players of course, but there is plenty of blame to go around beyond the coaches.

I agree with everything....basically....and I've been posting it for a while. At this point, they shouldn't do it alone. The non-bcs schools/conferences need to find a way out of the mess the vast majority of them are in. They all need to get together and form their own division. How much more does everyone need to see? The game is over. 20 more years? Please..... IF the non-bcs schools/conferences can't do something in the next two years, then UofA needs to act unilaterally. OR, the MAC needs to act with the membership to make a move to I-AA. Two more years after this year is all they get. Enough is enough. Another division or I-AA are the choices. +1 Anyone who comes on here and says any of us three don't care, save it. We've put our time in.....and plenty of it. Right now, somewhere in the world, a doctor is cutting off the leg of a patient in order to save the life of the patient. We are just trying the save the life of this program. The program is dying right in front of us. We might even thrive at another level. What 20 years has taught us is we can't survive at this level.

I agree with everything....basically....and I've been posting it for a while. At this point, they shouldn't do it alone. The non-bcs schools/conferences need to find a way out of the mess the vast majority of them are in. They all need to get together and form their own division. How much more does everyone need to see? The game is over. 20 more years? Please..... IF the non-bcs schools/conferences can't do something in the next two years, then UofA needs to act unilaterally. OR, the MAC needs to act with the membership to make a move to I-AA. Two more years after this year is all they get. Enough is enough. Another division or I-AA are the choices.

While reading CK's post, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

Myron Cope used to call him Clipboard Cliff because he played something like his first six years in the NFL without ever getting into a game.

Good post as usual. Are you saying that the 1.8 yards per carry rushing game we have isn't going to fool anyone in play action passes? In terms of finding a pro style QB, you are correct as well. They are going to have to look west to find a pro style QB. Mike Johnson was that QB years ago and he was the last one the school had. Getsy was a solid pro style QB, but we really didn't run a true pro style with JD. I make fun of the fact that half of the NFL QBs starting on Sundays aren't any good. How could many of them? The current landscape of high school and college football is full of spread offenses and the players are not prepared for the NFL. It's neither right nor wrong, it just is. A lot of HS QBs are prepared for college because they are prepared in HS for college spread offenses. NFL GMs need to do a better job of finding talented college QBs who may not come from a pro style offense. You really should contact the NFL and tell them about this. I think they already know and aren't certain what they can really do about it. Well, actually, there is something they can do. They should start a minor league system for the NFL and stop using college football as their minor league, but that will never happen.

Umm..You may have forgotten about Auburn. Thought they were in Mississippi. Ever hear of the Egg Bowl? That some kind of omelet? No, it's the yearly clash of SEC West midgets..... Miss vs. Miss State. Let's not forget So. Miss.

Good post as usual. Are you saying that the 1.8 yards per carry rushing game we have isn't going to fool anyone in play action passes? In terms of finding a pro style QB, you are correct as well. They are going to have to look west to find a pro style QB. Mike Johnson was that QB years ago and he was the last one the school had. Getsy was a solid pro style QB, but we really didn't run a true pro style with JD. I make fun of the fact that half of the NFL QBs starting on Sundays aren't any good. How could many of them? The current landscape of high school and college football is full of spread offenses and the players are not prepared for the NFL. It's neither right nor wrong, it just is. A lot of HS QBs are prepared for college because they are prepared in HS for college spread offenses. NFL GMs need to do a better job of finding talented college QBs who may not come from a pro style offense.

Umm..You may have forgotten about Auburn. Thought they were in Mississippi. Ever hear of the Egg Bowl?

Two points: 1. I could really care less about what happened in Can't however long ago that was now. It is not a news story. 2. If Bohner and Co. are elected, it will be only a change in stupidity. We are going to trade one for another. Rub one out while it's still legal. I'm suspect Z.I.P. will agree when I say the truth is out there for everyone to see. The problem with crazy people like Palin, the nut woman from Nevada running for Senate and the nut woman from DE running for Senate is they are caught on camera saying some really strange things. When asked about it, the say they never said it, when in fact there is a video of them saying it. They are all just a bunch of crazies telling lies. Andrew Sullivan has an interesting series on his blog titled, "The Strange Lies of Sarah Palin"...or something like that. If you read her history, you would see how crazy and dishonest she in fact is. The woman is absolutely a crazy person. I find it hard to believe any of them can get elected to office. The one with the best chance is the nut from Nevada. Las Vegas has been severely hurt by the economic downturn. Conventions are how they survive and Obama, because he really knows not much about anything especially as it relates to business, said companies should stop going to Vegas It is one of the more stupid things he believes. If this nut woman has a decent ad person at all, there will be an ad about this issue making Reid the guy who stands behind the guy who helped destroy their convention business....there would be some truth in that. Run it non stop the last three days before the election.

I really don't know what Nicely does when he is not playing football and I really don't care because what someone does in his personal life is his business. The following concerns me. Less than 200 yards in a game in 2010 is unacceptable. Less than 50% completion percentage is unacceptable. Not knowing a game situation when being sacked in the endzone is unacceptable. Three ints is unacceptable. Statistics aside, can anyone tell me what his win/loss record is as a starting QB? That's all you need to know. I realize it isn't all on the QB, but it is the most important position in football and the job isn't getting done. InTheZone is right....at the end of this season, they need to find a replacement for him.

I agree. The game last night matched up OK State against LaLaf. LaLaf looks like a MAC school and the games would be good because the equal level of player talent would create better competition. State had better players, especially #81, and was able to win on talent alone....How hard was it for the State Ocoordinator to call that game...."Tell #81 to run as fast as he can and just throw the ball in the air in his general direction." We can't compete at the BCS level, but we can compete against CUSA and SunBelt teams. I'll say it again. One BCS money game (25% of ooc schedule) Two non-BCS D-1A teams (50% of ooc schedule) One I-AA team (25% of ooc schedule). The loss this year was a fluke. There are sports programs at UofA who wouldn't dare to play an ooc schedule as difficult as the one I just described, let alone the level of difficulty the football team is playing this season. Let another program help pay for Title IX for a while and give the football team a break. That't the type of ooc schedule we should be playing. Three BCS schools a year (75% of ooc schedule) are killing the program. Starting out every year 1-3 or 0-4 is not helpful. Poor starts could still happen in my schedule, but much less likely. The Zips are set up for failure every year with our scheduling. We've been scheduling like this for too long and it isn't helping...it has to change.

Where is a broke college student to get beer money these days?