MDZip Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I followed an Elton Alexander link to the Bobcat board because their folks seem to be a little unhappy with their future football OOC schedules. One poster believes we're heading out soon. Even though it was posted on April 1st, I think he was sincere - Scroll down to Bobcat Poster Ohio69 "The only realistic option for the forseeable future is the MAC. Ohio does not support athletics financially very well at all. And, its not going to come up with the $5 million annually to take the next baby step to CUSA level in the current economic climate.Unlike the other 12 MAC coaches, I don't think Solich is looking to move up to BCS as soon as possible. So, Ohio has a great opportunity to go on a tear like Can't did with hoops and consistently win the MAC. It will be frustrating to watch Akron bolt for CUSA and reap all the benefits athletics can bring (enrollment, prestige, community support, etc.). Its gonna happen...."Given the choice of the MAC and C-USA I'd rather stick with the MAC, C-USA is just too geographically dispersed. Besides one poster later said we weren't well regarded enough academically. Maybe we can point him to the $1B research grants page ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I followed an Elton Alexander link to the Bobcat board because their folks seem to be a little unhappy with their future football OOC schedules. One poster believes we're heading out soon. Even though it was posted on April 1st, I think he was sincere - Scroll down to Bobcat Poster Ohio69 "The only realistic option for the forseeable future is the MAC. Ohio does not support athletics financially very well at all. And, its not going to come up with the $5 million annually to take the next baby step to CUSA level in the current economic climate.Unlike the other 12 MAC coaches, I don't think Solich is looking to move up to BCS as soon as possible. So, Ohio has a great opportunity to go on a tear like Can't did with hoops and consistently win the MAC. It will be frustrating to watch Akron bolt for CUSA and reap all the benefits athletics can bring (enrollment, prestige, community support, etc.). Its gonna happen...."Given the choice of the MAC and C-USA I'd rather stick with the MAC, C-USA is just too geographically dispersed. Besides one poster later said we weren't well regarded enough academically. Maybe we can point him to the $1B research grants page ...I'd rather be in C-USA. Its a better place to be if we ever want to make the jump to a BCS conference like the BigEast. As far as I know no teams have ever jumped from the MAC to the BCS, but Cincy, Louisville, South Florida, Depaul, and Marquette all came out of C-USA. I'm sure Memphis and maybe even Central Florida will move up in the near future. But if any school deserved to move up from the MAC straight to the Big East Akron does...I think that being more geographically dispersed is better, we would be exposed to more people and could be playing schools all over the eastern states, as opposed to just playing in the small area that the MAC covers. I want out of the MAC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! i don't care if its just C-USA. We just need to avoid the A10 and conferences like that, even though they are strong in basketball, they would be a step down... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips fan Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I would have no interest in C-USA. They are primarily based in Texas. Outside of Marshall, all other trips would be flying. I think we are still battling attendance issues and C-USA would provide almost zero travelling fans. I don't think the MAC is our final destination but C-USA is a lateral step with tremendous downside. Let's dominate the MAC before making any moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 ..... Let's dominate the MAC before making any moves.Amen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 The C-USA is a dying conference. It would be a disaster to move to them for any sport except for Soccer.Memphis just lost their coach and their fans believe that without him they have no hope for the future of their team, which means that the C-USA is without hope as a conference in basketball.In football, the MAC has every single one of its bowl games against BCS teams (the GMAC just replaced the C-USA with the ACC) while C-USA is so desperate that they are considering making a new bowl to play against a Sun Belt also-ran.The MAC is in better shape right now and the trends suggest that it will be for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I followed an Elton Alexander link to the Bobcat board because their folks seem to be a little unhappy with their future football OOC schedules. One poster believes we're heading out soon. Even though it was posted on April 1st, I think he was sincere - Scroll down to Bobcat Poster Ohio69 "The only realistic option for the forseeable future is the MAC. Ohio does not support athletics financially very well at all. And, its not going to come up with the $5 million annually to take the next baby step to CUSA level in the current economic climate.Unlike the other 12 MAC coaches, I don't think Solich is looking to move up to BCS as soon as possible. So, Ohio has a great opportunity to go on a tear like Can't did with hoops and consistently win the MAC. It will be frustrating to watch Akron bolt for CUSA and reap all the benefits athletics can bring (enrollment, prestige, community support, etc.). Its gonna happen...."Given the choice of the MAC and C-USA I'd rather stick with the MAC, C-USA is just too geographically dispersed. Besides one poster later said we weren't well regarded enough academically. Maybe we can point him to the $1B research grants page ...I'd rather be in C-USA. Its a better place to be if we ever want to make the jump to a BCS conference like the BigEast. As far as I know no teams have ever jumped from the MAC to the BCS, but Cincy, Louisville, South Florida, Depaul, and Marquette all came out of C-USA. I'm sure Memphis and maybe even Central Florida will move up in the near future. But if any school deserved to move up from the MAC straight to the Big East Akron does...I think that being more geographically dispersed is better, we would be exposed to more people and could be playing schools all over the eastern states, as opposed to just playing in the small area that the MAC covers. I want out of the MAC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! i don't care if its just C-USA. We just need to avoid the A10 and conferences like that, even though they are strong in basketball, they would be a step down...Even though the BCS didn't exist at the time, what about Michigan State? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I followed an Elton Alexander link to the Bobcat board because their folks seem to be a little unhappy with their future football OOC schedules. One poster believes we're heading out soon. Even though it was posted on April 1st, I think he was sincere - Scroll down to Bobcat Poster Ohio69 "The only realistic option for the forseeable future is the MAC. Ohio does not support athletics financially very well at all. And, its not going to come up with the $5 million annually to take the next baby step to CUSA level in the current economic climate.Unlike the other 12 MAC coaches, I don't think Solich is looking to move up to BCS as soon as possible. So, Ohio has a great opportunity to go on a tear like Can't did with hoops and consistently win the MAC. It will be frustrating to watch Akron bolt for CUSA and reap all the benefits athletics can bring (enrollment, prestige, community support, etc.). Its gonna happen...."Given the choice of the MAC and C-USA I'd rather stick with the MAC, C-USA is just too geographically dispersed. Besides one poster later said we weren't well regarded enough academically. Maybe we can point him to the $1B research grants page ...I'd rather be in C-USA. Its a better place to be if we ever want to make the jump to a BCS conference like the BigEast. As far as I know no teams have ever jumped from the MAC to the BCS, but Cincy, Louisville, South Florida, Depaul, and Marquette all came out of C-USA. I'm sure Memphis and maybe even Central Florida will move up in the near future. But if any school deserved to move up from the MAC straight to the Big East Akron does...I think that being more geographically dispersed is better, we would be exposed to more people and could be playing schools all over the eastern states, as opposed to just playing in the small area that the MAC covers. I want out of the MAC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! i don't care if its just C-USA. We just need to avoid the A10 and conferences like that, even though they are strong in basketball, they would be a step down...Even though the BCS didn't exist at the time, what about Michigan State?I didn't really do any research, but the wikipedia article about the MAC deosnt have MSU listed under "former members" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I followed an Elton Alexander link to the Bobcat board because their folks seem to be a little unhappy with their future football OOC schedules. One poster believes we're heading out soon. Even though it was posted on April 1st, I think he was sincere - Scroll down to Bobcat Poster Ohio69 "The only realistic option for the forseeable future is the MAC. Ohio does not support athletics financially very well at all. And, its not going to come up with the $5 million annually to take the next baby step to CUSA level in the current economic climate.Unlike the other 12 MAC coaches, I don't think Solich is looking to move up to BCS as soon as possible. So, Ohio has a great opportunity to go on a tear like Can't did with hoops and consistently win the MAC. It will be frustrating to watch Akron bolt for CUSA and reap all the benefits athletics can bring (enrollment, prestige, community support, etc.). Its gonna happen...."Given the choice of the MAC and C-USA I'd rather stick with the MAC, C-USA is just too geographically dispersed. Besides one poster later said we weren't well regarded enough academically. Maybe we can point him to the $1B research grants page ...I'd rather be in C-USA. Its a better place to be if we ever want to make the jump to a BCS conference like the BigEast. As far as I know no teams have ever jumped from the MAC to the BCS, but Cincy, Louisville, South Florida, Depaul, and Marquette all came out of C-USA. I'm sure Memphis and maybe even Central Florida will move up in the near future. But if any school deserved to move up from the MAC straight to the Big East Akron does...I think that being more geographically dispersed is better, we would be exposed to more people and could be playing schools all over the eastern states, as opposed to just playing in the small area that the MAC covers. I want out of the MAC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! i don't care if its just C-USA. We just need to avoid the A10 and conferences like that, even though they are strong in basketball, they would be a step down...Even though the BCS didn't exist at the time, what about Michigan State?I didn't really do any research, but the wikipedia article about the MAC deosnt have MSU listed under "former members"Oh, well I'm sure they know more there than at the MAC office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmd9 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I followed an Elton Alexander link to the Bobcat board because their folks seem to be a little unhappy with their future football OOC schedules. One poster believes we're heading out soon. Even though it was posted on April 1st, I think he was sincere - Scroll down to Bobcat Poster Ohio69 "The only realistic option for the forseeable future is the MAC. Ohio does not support athletics financially very well at all. And, its not going to come up with the $5 million annually to take the next baby step to CUSA level in the current economic climate.Unlike the other 12 MAC coaches, I don't think Solich is looking to move up to BCS as soon as possible. So, Ohio has a great opportunity to go on a tear like Can't did with hoops and consistently win the MAC. It will be frustrating to watch Akron bolt for CUSA and reap all the benefits athletics can bring (enrollment, prestige, community support, etc.). Its gonna happen...."Given the choice of the MAC and C-USA I'd rather stick with the MAC, C-USA is just too geographically dispersed. Besides one poster later said we weren't well regarded enough academically. Maybe we can point him to the $1B research grants page ...I'd rather be in C-USA. Its a better place to be if we ever want to make the jump to a BCS conference like the BigEast. As far as I know no teams have ever jumped from the MAC to the BCS, but Cincy, Louisville, South Florida, Depaul, and Marquette all came out of C-USA. I'm sure Memphis and maybe even Central Florida will move up in the near future. But if any school deserved to move up from the MAC straight to the Big East Akron does...I think that being more geographically dispersed is better, we would be exposed to more people and could be playing schools all over the eastern states, as opposed to just playing in the small area that the MAC covers. I want out of the MAC AS SOON AS POSSIBLE! i don't care if its just C-USA. We just need to avoid the A10 and conferences like that, even though they are strong in basketball, they would be a step down...Even though the BCS didn't exist at the time, what about Michigan State?I didn't really do any research, but the wikipedia article about the MAC deosnt have MSU listed under "former members"Oh, well I'm sure they know more there than at the MAC office.I never said you were wrong I was just saying where I got my info from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 CUSA, BIG EAST sound nice but honestly i wouldnt see why the Big10 wouldn't be a good fit for us. They would definitely be up for adding another team to make it 12 and they definitely wouldn't be opposed to us geographically. It would be a perfect fit for us in a few years if things continue to develop athletically the way they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 CUSA, BIG EAST sound nice but honestly i wouldnt see why the Big10 wouldn't be a good fit for us. They would definitely be up for adding another team to make it 12 and they definitely wouldn't be opposed to us geographically. It would be a perfect fit for us in a few years if things continue to develop athletically the way they are.That'd be nice and all, but we'd better make some big noise fast if that was to happen. Personally, I'd be much more content with being a perennial MAC powerhouse and having a consistent winning tradition than jumping to the big stage and being a .500 team. I am not so sure that if the Big10 were to expand to 12 teams that they'd pick up a mid-major MAC team. If anything they'd probably try to convince Notre Dame to join. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 CUSA, BIG EAST sound nice but honestly i wouldnt see why the Big10 wouldn't be a good fit for us. They would definitely be up for adding another team to make it 12 and they definitely wouldn't be opposed to us geographically. It would be a perfect fit for us in a few years if things continue to develop athletically the way they are.That'd be nice and all, but we'd better make some big noise fast if that was to happen. Personally, I'd be much more content with being a perennial MAC powerhouse and having a consistent winning tradition than jumping to the big stage and being a .500 team. I am not so sure that if the Big10 were to expand to 12 teams that they'd pick up a mid-major MAC team. If anything they'd probably try to convince Notre Dame to join.The big ten has no benefit in taking in Akron. I'm assuming that was sarcasm.And UAZips man is correct, they wouldn't pick from the mid major ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I just want to see the MAC get better and us be a perennial power within it. Everybody keeps talking about jumping for another conference. I'd rather the conference we're in become more nationally prominent. That way we're not only good but we're loyal too.There needs to be a major shakeup and reoganization within the MAC offices and get some pepole in there that are going to take this conference to the next level and beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 After reading all of your comments, I have 3 wishes....1) I sure hope the MAC gets better, because I don't think we have a realistic opportunity to move to another conference at this time.2) If we do get a chance to move to C-USA, we should take it. It might not be the best option, but why couldn't it be a stepping stone to the BCS level that we so desire?3) I don't understand why passing on a C-USA opportunity should be because of the other teams' proximities to Akron. It would actually be our golden chance to expand our notoriety. That's so limited right now with so many of the MAC schools in Ohio and Michigan. Are people serious that they would pass up such an opportunity because it would be more difficult for visiting fans to travel here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Are people serious that they would pass up such an opportunity because it would be more difficult for visiting fans to travel here?The local hotels would suffer greatly from the loss of out-of-town dollars from EMU fans alone. Not to mention the lost Miami and Northern Illinois fans that would no longer invade Summit County on a game day weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I don't think we are quite attractive enough to the bigger confrences yet to warrant an invitation. Any invitation we might get would be strictly based on potential, but I think we need to realize more of that potential before we can seriously discuss getting out of the MAC.As far as CUSA, if Memphis, UCF, ECU (specifically Memphis) stick around, it is probably worth it to jump over if the chance ever came. If a couple of those teams start jumping to the Big East, then the conference isn't really any better than the MAC and the additional travel issues don't make a lot of sense for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 CUSA, BIG EAST sound nice but honestly i wouldnt see why the Big10 wouldn't be a good fit for us. They would definitely be up for adding another team to make it 12 and they definitely wouldn't be opposed to us geographically. It would be a perfect fit for us in a few years if things continue to develop athletically the way they are.That'd be nice and all, but we'd better make some big noise fast if that was to happen. Personally, I'd be much more content with being a perennial MAC powerhouse and having a consistent winning tradition than jumping to the big stage and being a .500 team. I am not so sure that if the Big10 were to expand to 12 teams that they'd pick up a mid-major MAC team. If anything they'd probably try to convince Notre Dame to join.The big ten has no benefit in taking in Akron. I'm assuming that was sarcasm.And UAZips man is correct, they wouldn't pick from the mid major ranks.That's very debatable. I also doubt you have any insiders in the Big Ten camp that could back your assumption.Most any conference would take someone like Notre Dame so that's irrelevant. The point is, Akron is growing alot and who knows in a few years we could be a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 CUSA, BIG EAST sound nice but honestly i wouldnt see why the Big10 wouldn't be a good fit for us. They would definitely be up for adding another team to make it 12 and they definitely wouldn't be opposed to us geographically. It would be a perfect fit for us in a few years if things continue to develop athletically the way they are.That'd be nice and all, but we'd better make some big noise fast if that was to happen. Personally, I'd be much more content with being a perennial MAC powerhouse and having a consistent winning tradition than jumping to the big stage and being a .500 team. I am not so sure that if the Big10 were to expand to 12 teams that they'd pick up a mid-major MAC team. If anything they'd probably try to convince Notre Dame to join.The big ten has no benefit in taking in Akron. I'm assuming that was sarcasm.And UAZips man is correct, they wouldn't pick from the mid major ranks.That's very debatable. I also doubt you have any insiders in the Big Ten camp that could back your assumption.Most any conference would take someone like Notre Dame so that's irrelevant. The point is, Akron is growing alot and who knows in a few years we could be a good fit.I don't like making dogmatic statements, so I won't say we're never getting invited to join the Big Ten. But we're never getting invited to join the Big Ten. (And, no, I don't have any inside information.) But they would invite West Virginia, Missouri, UConn, Maryland, Virginia Tech, Cincinnati, Pitt or possibly Kentucky to join before they would invite us. And I still think the Big Ten is hoping Notre Dame wants to join; about 10 years ago they extended an invitation to ND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Exactly. There are far more schools that would prove to be much more attractive fan-wise and money-wise than us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraftyMFer Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 I am still trying to figure out if the previous posters talking about joining the Big Ten and Big East are serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Ironically, I was going to post something about this on the football site. I will still do that, but here ya go.When BE pairs itself down for various reasons, you could easily see something like this:MAC EastCan't StateBuffaloOhio UniversityTemple (football only)Army (football only)Navy (football only)WestEastern MichiganCentral MichiganWestern MichiganBall StateNorthern IllinoisToledoBIG EASTNorthConnecticutSyracuseMarshallWest VirginiaPittsburghRutgersSouthUCFSouth FloridaSouthern MissCincinnatiLouisvilleMemphisConference USAEastEast CarolinaUABAkronMiamiBowling GreenTulsaWestRiceHoustonUTEPTulane SMUNorth TexasYou could debate a few teams, but the point is that the BE will take teams from CUSA MOST LIKELY, thus leaving them scrambling. CUSA and MAC can reorganize.Akron would play 8 conference games. 5 in the East, 3 in the West.I think we would keep our rivalry with Can't, BG would keep theirs with Toledo and Miami would keep theirs with Ohio.So, we would still play 3 Ohio teams (non-con vs. Can't). And, IMHO, games against Houston, Tulane, SMU and Tulsa would be more interesting than vs. WMU, CMU, EMU and Northern Illinois.This also would open us up to more easily AVOID FCS team most years and play other MAC teams to go along with our 2 BCS conference games. Playing it out, our schedule in, say 2013, could look like this:at MichiganCincinnatiat ArmyTulsaat UABat BGHoustonMiamiat SMUEast Carolinaat TulaneCan't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 It is absolutely just my opinion, and isn't worth a cup of coffee, but I really favor the MAC as opposed to C-USA. In my daydreams I envision us dominating the MAC. I really think that would fill the stands. I might be wrong.However, I do like the way that our university fits in with much of the urban university culture of the football Big East. SyracuseLouisvilleCincinnatiPittRutgersUSFI can see Akron fitting in nicely with that list of schools. And competing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Ironically, I was going to post something about this on the football site. I will still do that, but here ya go.When BE pairs itself down for various reasons, you could easily see something like this:MAC EastCan't StateBuffaloOhio UniversityTemple (football only)Army (football only)Navy (football only)WestEastern MichiganCentral MichiganWestern MichiganBall StateNorthern IllinoisToledoBIG EASTNorthConnecticutSyracuseMarshallWest VirginiaPittsburghRutgersSouthUCFSouth FloridaSouthern MissCincinnatiLouisvilleMemphisConference USAEastEast CarolinaUABAkronMiamiBowling GreenTulsaWestRiceHoustonUTEPTulane SMUNorth TexasYou could debate a few teams, but the point is that the BE will take teams from CUSA MOST LIKELY, thus leaving them scrambling. CUSA and MAC can reorganize.Akron would play 8 conference games. 5 in the East, 3 in the West.I think we would keep our rivalry with Can't, BG would keep theirs with Toledo and Miami would keep theirs with Ohio.So, we would still play 3 Ohio teams (non-con vs. Can't). And, IMHO, games against Houston, Tulane, SMU and Tulsa would be more interesting than vs. WMU, CMU, EMU and Northern Illinois.This also would open us up to more easily AVOID FCS team most years and play other MAC teams to go along with our 2 BCS conference games. Playing it out, our schedule in, say 2013, could look like this:at MichiganCincinnatiat ArmyTulsaat UABat BGHoustonMiamiat SMUEast Carolinaat TulaneCan'tUniversity of Alabama-Birmingham BLAZERS FTW!!! Best logo and name in college sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptrumpet87 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 It is absolutely just my opinion, and isn't worth a cup of coffee, but I really favor the MAC as opposed to C-USA. In my daydreams I envision us dominating the MAC. I really think that would fill the stands. I might be wrong.However, I do like the way that our university fits in with much of the urban university culture of the football Big East. SyracuseLouisvilleCincinnatiPittRutgersUSFI can see Akron fitting in nicely with that list of schools. And competing as well.I agree, but in football only (at the moment). Give KD a few more years and a few more Zeke-level recruits and a new arena and we'll be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 It is absolutely just my opinion, and isn't worth a cup of coffee, but I really favor the MAC as opposed to C-USA. In my daydreams I envision us dominating the MAC. I really think that would fill the stands. I might be wrong.However, I do like the way that our university fits in with much of the urban university culture of the football Big East. SyracuseLouisvilleCincinnatiPittRutgersUSFI can see Akron fitting in nicely with that list of schools. And competing as well.I agree, but in football only (at the moment). Give KD a few more years and a few more Zeke-level recruits and a new arena and we'll be there.Don't forget soccer! And once we got there we would be able to get better recruits due to the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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