Akron picked first in MAC East by 2 ESPN "experts"

[ZachTheZip]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview09/ne...cfpredictions09Rece Davis and Ivan Maisel picked Akron to win the East. Of course, the MAC East had the most wild variation of teams picked to win it out of all the conferences and divisions. It's the most wide-open division in football. Still, I think we're flying under the radar when we're being grouped with the rest of the East.

[Captain Kangaroo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview09/ne...cfpredictions09Rece Davis and Ivan Maisel picked Akron to win the East. Of course, the MAC East had the most wild variation of teams picked to win it out of all the conferences and divisions. It's the most wide-open division in football. Still, I think we're flying under the radar when we're being grouped with the rest of the East.

We should win the East. Anything less than an East championship is a huge disappointment. Buffalo lost their top QB and RB. OU is terrible, and we beat them in Akron with great regularity, K.e.n.t. is horrible, there's a reason BG has a new coach/staff, and we have Temple @ home. The teams we are competing for a championship against are the dregs of Division 1 football. We should sweep the MAC East.

[Buckzip]

ESPiN expert. That is an oxymoron.

[skip-zip]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview09/ne...cfpredictions09Rece Davis and Ivan Maisel picked Akron to win the East. Of course, the MAC East had the most wild variation of teams picked to win it out of all the conferences and divisions. It's the most wide-open division in football. Still, I think we're flying under the radar when we're being grouped with the rest of the East.

We should win the East. Anything less than an East championship is a huge disappointment. Buffalo lost their top QB and RB. OU is terrible, and we beat them in Akron with great regularity, K.e.n.t. is horrible, there's a reason BG has a new coach/staff, and we have Temple @ home. The teams we are competing for a championship against are the dregs of Division 1 football. We should sweep the MAC East.

Not according to a Can't State linebacker's comments in the Beacon yesterday.

[ZippyTuba11]

I keep telling people this is our year. 2005, we stole NIU's year. We have a beautiful new stadium, a veteran team, and a good schedule. This is the year to separate ourselves from all the other cupcakes in the MAC (I'm looking at you OU, Can't, EMU, Miami, Temple, Toledo).If we don't sweep at least the MAC E I will be extremely disappointed in this season.

[Z.I.P.]

I keep telling people this is our year. 2005, we stole NIU's year. We have a beautiful new stadium, a veteran team, and a good schedule. This is the year to separate ourselves from all the other cupcakes in the MAC (I'm looking at you OU, Can't, EMU, Miami, Temple, Toledo).If we don't sweep at least the MAC E I will be extremely disappointed in this season.

Shades of 2005. 6-6 overall could certainly be a MAC East championship record. I will be very surprised to see more than seven wins. But, I can say that about every team in the East. :PBTW -- I wasn't aware that Colin Blowhard was another OU alum. Now we know.

[jupitertoo]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview09/ne...cfpredictions09Rece Davis and Ivan Maisel picked Akron to win the East. Of course, the MAC East had the most wild variation of teams picked to win it out of all the conferences and divisions. It's the most wide-open division in football. Still, I think we're flying under the radar when we're being grouped with the rest of the East.

We should win the East. Anything less than an East championship is a huge disappointment. Buffalo lost their top QB and RB. OU is terrible, and we beat them in Akron with great regularity, K.e.n.t. is horrible, there's a reason BG has a new coach/staff, and we have Temple @ home. The teams we are competing for a championship against are the dregs of Division 1 football. We should sweep the MAC East.

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

[Dr Z]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East.

New stadium, new coaches, more team experience, more team talent, senior QB, depth at RB, possible defensive scheme change, depth on DL, schedule, and we haven't lost yet.

[g-mann17]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East.

New stadium, new coaches, more team experience, more team talent, senior QB, depth at RB, possible defensive scheme change, depth on DL, schedule, and we haven't lost yet.

Oh, and we aren't Ohio.

[ZippyTuba11]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

[jupitertoo]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

Please show me evidence that OU or Toledo has been in the Bottom 10 in the past three years. BTW, I believe you lost to OU last year. Two years prior, etc.

[ZippyTuba11]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

Please show me evidence that OU or Toledo has been in the Bottom 10 in the past three years. BTW, I believe you lost to OU last year. Two years prior, etc.

Look it up yourself. It's called google, and it's easy to use.

[jupitertoo]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

Please show me evidence that OU or Toledo has been in the Bottom 10 in the past three years. BTW, I believe you lost to OU last year. Two years prior, etc.

Look it up yourself. It's called google, and it's easy to use.

Typical lies. I assume you are in the band -- what an embarrassing organization for the school.

[zipseuph]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

Please show me evidence that OU or Toledo has been in the Bottom 10 in the past three years. BTW, I believe you lost to OU last year. Two years prior, etc.

Look it up yourself. It's called google, and it's easy to use.

Typical lies. I assume you are in the band -- what an embarrassing organization for the school.

ok can we just get rid of this guy. all he's doing is coming on here trying to start fights. I'm not even going to comment on any points he has cause either he'll 1) call me a liar or 2) ignore my post all together when he realizes he can't win the fight.I come here to talk Akron sports with Akron fans and some fans from other schools who aren't flaming piles of shit and this no life loser is making it hard for me to even want to visit this sight so please for the love of god take him behind the proverbial shed and put a bullet in him

[zipseuph]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

Please show me evidence that OU or Toledo has been in the Bottom 10 in the past three years. BTW, I believe you lost to OU last year. Two years prior, etc.

Look it up yourself. It's called google, and it's easy to use.

Typical lies. I assume you are in the band -- what an embarrassing organization for the school.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom100812theres on of OU on the waiting listhttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom100810waiting list againhttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom10086there again at 1-5http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom10084and here you crack the number 7 spot""Come Sail Away": The Bobcats have searched for tomorrow on Big Ten, MAC and MWC shores without success in '08. Time for them to pick up their Styx and come sail away with the Bottom 10."http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom10083another honerable mentionI imagine your just going to pretend this post never happened

[jupitertoo]

Please explain what it is about Akron's recent performance that justifies you having such little respect for other football programs in the MAC East. You did finish 3-5 last year, right? Not flaming...just wondering what dramatic changes, beyond a stadium, have occurred to rocket the Zips to anticipated dominance of the league this year. Was it Elton Alexander's prediction? If so, Heaven help you. Many other prognosticators have differing opinions. It's one thing to set expectations, another thing to trash every other program in the league for no rational reason.

No rational reason, eh? How about how most of the MAC E has been in the ESPN "Bottom 10" lately, including OU, Miami, Can't St, and Toledo and EMU from the west

Please show me evidence that OU or Toledo has been in the Bottom 10 in the past three years. BTW, I believe you lost to OU last year. Two years prior, etc.

Look it up yourself. It's called google, and it's easy to use.

Typical lies. I assume you are in the band -- what an embarrassing organization for the school.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom100812theres on of OU on the waiting listhttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom100810waiting list againhttp://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom10086there again at 1-5http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom10084and here you crack the number 7 spot""Come Sail Away": The Bobcats have searched for tomorrow on Big Ten, MAC and MWC shores without success in '08. Time for them to pick up their Styx and come sail away with the Bottom 10."http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?page=bottom10083another honerable mentionI imagine your just going to pretend this post never happened

Of course I won't ignore it. Nor the one from Tuba fanboy. It's hard to ignore the sheer number of grammatical/spelling errors you guys make. "Your" should be "You're.""Sight" should be "site." Perhaps a demonstration of why Washington Monthly's annual college edition, released yesterday, has Akron ranked BELOW Cleveland State in academic rankings, and 120 or spots below my alma mater. Lowest public school in the state, I believe. Because Akron is essentially a high school extension.As to the Bottom Ten, well, we were on the list once (waiting doesn't count). And that one time was early in the season after a tight loss to OSU, 1 point loss to Wyoming at Wyoming, etc. But the key is that we beat Akron. Just like we beat Akron for the MAC East title two years before that.And by the way, "Ohio's Pride?" My god, if Ohioans saw your marching band, they'd think it was a high school band...which it sort of is.Let's get back to facts: You guys have been, what, 5-7 or so the last couple of years and you're talking divisional dominance? You've got your senior quarterback back (as do many schools, including OU)? A quarterback who has been, at best, erratic over his career? You've got "new coaches?" Including the worst coach ever to hold the position at Miami U? Have you read about the mess they've been cleaning up there in his wake? He had no disciplinary program and his replacement has been trying to get the team to understand what hard work really means. They're having to change the entire culture. OU beat him like a drum three consecutive years. And Walt Harris? Hmmm, oh that's right, he restored the dominance of the Pitt program, right? They've got a half-empty new stadium every Saturday. Which sounds familiar...Your premier win in the past three seasons has been Syracuse. They're on that list every week! OU beat Illinois at Illinois -- the same year Illinois beat Ohio State.So have fun, boys. And get back to engineering your Goodyear radiator hose and fan belts.

[g-mann17]

Why do you keep feeding this troll?Honestly, he obviously got too baked in one of his bong classes at OU, or he drank some of that Hocking River water. He keeps lurking and attacking... Why? Because he's jealous, no one puts that much passion and dedication into something if they don't have jealousy in their heart. I never go on other boards and troll the other teams. Why? Because frankly I don't give a crap about them, and being 100% indifferent is more of an insult than coming on and trying to tear something down.Hell the fact that Uranusaswell is on here trying to troll, is just a compliment to everything Zipsnation and The University of Akron has done. We are changing things and it's got his panties in a bunch. He knows the glory days of his school in the sticks is long gone.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Ok, jupitertoo...we get it. Your mom didn't pay attention to you...you were a bed wetter...whatever. It is a sad story, but it doesn't give you the right to be a blight on our board.Cease with the BS, or you will forfeit the privilege of posting on ZipsNation.

[jupitertoo]

Ok, jupitertoo...we get it. Your mom didn't pay attention to you...you were a bed wetter...whatever. It is sad, but it doesn't give you the right to be a blight on our board.Cease with the BS or you will forfeit the privilege of posting on ZipsNation.

My complaint is simple -- you guys don't show any respect to your conference members. And there's no reason for it. You certainly aren't outperforming anyone.

[g-mann17]

My complaint is simple -- you guys don't show any respect to your conference members. And there's no reason for it. You certainly aren't outperforming anyone.

Why should we? Because you are so respectful of us? Yeah right. If I recall every away game I've been too it's been "Community College!" or worse. Hell you've been doing nothing but bashing us your last 30 posts or so. I don't remember anyone saying "Boy Ohio U sucks." before you came on and called all of our rankings BS. And we are supposed to respect you why? Because you were a founding member of the MAC, you're school was built 66 years before ours? No you come in bashing us than you get what you get.I've noticed no problems with other people coming in here. The YSU guy Equins, or Bull in Exile, there are plenty of people from Ball State and Miami that have posted and had fairly civil conversations (a few little back and forths) but nothing like what you've been doing. Hell even the Penn State guys show us more respect than you do.If the mods think you should go, I don't think anyone here would have a problem with it.

[Hilltopper]

Ok, jupitertoo...we get it. Your mom didn't pay attention to you...you were a bed wetter...whatever. It is a sad story, but it doesn't give you the right to be a blight on our board.Cease with the BS, or you will forfeit the privilege of posting on ZipsNation.

I think this one would seem more likely.

[UADavid]

I'm not the least bit interested in what jupitertoo thinks of ZN members or my Alma Mater. He has an inferiority complex personally and professionally. I have no doubt that OU has some very good programs. Engineering is not one of them. Engineering at OU has suffered a huge black eye with it's 20+ year cheating scandal that he dismisses so callously. That should never be used to impress others as to your schools strengths. Akron has a beautiful on campus stadium, a state of the art recreation center, 500 million investment in new buildings and infrastructure, beautifully landscaped campus, and is located in an area with an abundance of activities from the biking and hiking trails, lakes, theaters, outdoor music pavilions, professional sports teams, bars, restaurants, and micro-breweries to name a few. We can also do this at a stones throw. Save all your pent up frustration and belligerent tone for whatever OU forum there might be. It's also quite thoughtful of you to point out grammatical errors. After all, it's much more important than plagiarism!

[ZippyTuba11]

As to the Bottom Ten, well, we were on the list once (waiting doesn't count).

Okay, so you were in the Bottom 15. Thats WAY different than the Bottom 10.Seriously, with the Spin you can put on your program...do you work for a political campaign? I'd say your whiny enough to be a Dcrat, but the way you come up with such useless facts, you could be a republican as well.Thank you for coming in here and demonstrating how lowly and uneducated us poor masses that attend Akron are. We feel crushed by the weight of just the aura of your degree. I just can't take it anymore. How can we ever go back to Akron again?

[zipseuph]

I honestly don't proof read my ZN posts I just kinda type and fly and let come out what may hell there will probably be some mistakes in this post as well tell you what every time you pick one out I'll add it to the list of who gives a $h!t this is a forum not an essay (and this post is an original ) and why are you trying so hard to start a band argument? I'm a huge dork but I am no where near the point where I have to go on the internet and start an argument about marching band