johnnyzip84 Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Tom Gaffney has another article about RI and his initial efforts to install his schemes at UA. On a side note, don't look for the 2011 schedule to be any easier than this year's. Games at OSU (9/3) and UC (9/17) have apparently been finalized.Link Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Tom Gaffney has another article about RI and his initial efforts to install his schemes at UA. On a side note, don't look for the 2011 schedule to be any easier than this year's. Games at OSU (9/3) and UC (9/17) have apparently been finalized.LinkThe question arose in another thread - "Who's better than Terry Pluto?"Judging from the ABJ link above...I say - Tom Gaffney. Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted March 8, 2010 Author Report Posted March 8, 2010 Interestingly, an excerpt from this article was used by FootballScoop.com for one of today's "quick hits".Link Quote
InTheZone Posted March 8, 2010 Report Posted March 8, 2010 Pretty shocked to see the team is on a M-W-F 3 day full body lift as opposed to the much more standard M-T-R-F 4 day upper-lower-upper-lower schedule. I thought the 3 day lift cycle had gone the way of the Wishbone Offense. Not sure I like it, but hopefully the new strength guy knows what the heck he's doing. Quote
GP1 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 Pretty shocked to see the team is on a M-W-F 3 day full body lift as opposed to the much more standard M-T-R-F 4 day upper-lower-upper-lower schedule. I thought the 3 day lift cycle had gone the way of the Wishbone Offense. Not sure I like it, but hopefully the new strength guy knows what the heck he's doing.Teams were still running the wishbone during the early Faust years and we had M-W-F-Sat (AM) workouts.Three days a week does not seem to be enough. A lot has changed over the years. If they are doing full body push/pull lifts, three days may be enough. Quote
ZachTheZip Posted March 9, 2010 Report Posted March 9, 2010 Pretty shocked to see the team is on a M-W-F 3 day full body lift as opposed to the much more standard M-T-R-F 4 day upper-lower-upper-lower schedule. I thought the 3 day lift cycle had gone the way of the Wishbone Offense. Not sure I like it, but hopefully the new strength guy knows what the heck he's doing.Time to recover is just as important as the actual lifting. Maybe they're focusing more on conditioning than strength, to create athletes instead of hulking monstrosities that get tired easily. Quote
InTheZone Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 Pretty shocked to see the team is on a M-W-F 3 day full body lift as opposed to the much more standard M-T-R-F 4 day upper-lower-upper-lower schedule. I thought the 3 day lift cycle had gone the way of the Wishbone Offense. Not sure I like it, but hopefully the new strength guy knows what the heck he's doing.Time to recover is just as important as the actual lifting. Maybe they're focusing more on conditioning than strength, to create athletes instead of hulking monstrosities that get tired easily.4 day lifting cycles actually, believe it or not, leave more time for muscle recovery. To put it simply to a fault, because in a four day lift different muscle groups are worked each different day (upper, lower, upper, lower), there is actually a 72 hour recovery time, as opposed to a M-W-F full body lift which only provides 48 hours. There are a lot of benefits to the 4 day cycle that I'm not going to go in to but that strength coaches have known for the past 20 years. That's why I'm shocked to see ths 3 day schedule for our Zips. And you can focus on speed and agility in a 4 day cycle, through plyometrics on lower body days and agility training on upper body days (usually done before or after the lift). And if you've watched the Zips the past 6 years, one thing we've sorely missed are "hulking monstrosities", especially up front. We had too many self-styled "athletes" in the Brookhart era and not enough guys up front kicking ass and leaving the pretty stuff to the DB's and WR's. These guys need to be in the weight room 4 days a week IMO, but there's probably something we're missing here that Gaffney misinterpreted or didn't elaborate on. I don't have an "in" in the program anymore, so I couldn't tell you exactly what's going on, but our new strength guy has a good background and pedigree, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Quote
zen Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 Pretty shocked to see the team is on a M-W-F 3 day full body lift as opposed to the much more standard M-T-R-F 4 day upper-lower-upper-lower schedule. I thought the 3 day lift cycle had gone the way of the Wishbone Offense. Not sure I like it, but hopefully the new strength guy knows what the heck he's doing.Time to recover is just as important as the actual lifting. Maybe they're focusing more on conditioning than strength, to create athletes instead of hulking monstrosities that get tired easily.Time to recover is very very important if you lift heavy and you do other forms of conditioning at other times of the week... unless of course you are steroids or something illegal that reduces your recovery periods. If I am not mistaken, most football players generally focus on power movements over pure strength routines. Power being the combinationation of strength at a functioning speed. The last thing you need to do in the off season is overtrain. Recouperation periods are vital. Quote
Dr Z Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 7 days a week, 2000 Push Ups, 3000 Sit Ups, 1500 Pull Ups and 1000 Dips. Best college RB in history. Do it! Quote
zen Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 7 days a week, 2000 Push Ups, 3000 Sit Ups, 1500 Pull Ups and 1000 Dips. Best college RB in history. Do it!That's amazing body preperation for a running back. Did he run out of the hand-stand? Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Posted March 10, 2010 7 days a week, 2000 Push Ups, 3000 Sit Ups, 1500 Pull Ups and 1000 Dips. Best college RB in history. Do it!OK, I'll bite. Herschel Walker? Quote
Dr Z Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 7 days a week, 2000 Push Ups, 3000 Sit Ups, 1500 Pull Ups and 1000 Dips. Best college RB in history. Do it!OK, I'll bite. Herschel Walker?48 years old and still professionally today. Quote
InTheZone Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 7 days a week, 2000 Push Ups, 3000 Sit Ups, 1500 Pull Ups and 1000 Dips. Best college RB in history. Do it!OK, I'll bite. Herschel Walker?48 years old and still professionally today.WOW.... that man does not age. He still looks better than half of all NFL RB's at 48 years old!! Physical freak. Quote
zipseuph Posted March 10, 2010 Report Posted March 10, 2010 7 days a week, 2000 Push Ups, 3000 Sit Ups, 1500 Pull Ups and 1000 Dips. Best college RB in history. Do it!psh I sleep like that Quote
ZachTheZip Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 I talked to some football players and they are going through a month-long "hell week" right now. They've never had it this tough before, and most of them acknowledge that it's a good thing. They expect to win the MAC East, even with Temple there. Quote
g-mann17 Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 I talked to some football players and they are going through a month-long "hell week" right now. They've never had it this tough before, and most of them acknowledge that it's a good thing. They expect to win the MAC East, even with Temple there.Here's some news, Temple has yet to win the MAC East, so they really aren't a bench mark. (Great season this year, I would have traded records in a heartbeat and schedules, since it was quite obvious the MAC padded it for them). But they aren't Marshall. But I do like the "expecting" to win the MAC East. They should be "expecting" to run the table in the East. It shows me that he is trying to change the attitude. Quote
InTheZone Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 I talked to some football players and they are going through a month-long "hell week" right now. They've never had it this tough before, and most of them acknowledge that it's a good thing. They expect to win the MAC East, even with Temple there.Here's some news, Temple has yet to win the MAC East, so they really aren't a bench mark. (Great season this year, I would have traded records in a heartbeat and schedules, since it was quite obvious the MAC padded it for them). But they aren't Marshall. But I do like the "expecting" to win the MAC East. They should be "expecting" to run the table in the East. It shows me that he is trying to change the attitude.Lol, you don't think the team would've said they expected to win the MAC East last year if asked? I'm sure there's a newspaper article out there somewhere with someone saying they expected to win the MAC East, and from 2008, 2007, 2006....And the month long "hell week" is nothing new. Brooky did the same thing when he got here. Like I said earlier, standard "weeding out" practice. Quote
g-mann17 Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 I talked to some football players and they are going through a month-long "hell week" right now. They've never had it this tough before, and most of them acknowledge that it's a good thing. They expect to win the MAC East, even with Temple there.Here's some news, Temple has yet to win the MAC East, so they really aren't a bench mark. (Great season this year, I would have traded records in a heartbeat and schedules, since it was quite obvious the MAC padded it for them). But they aren't Marshall. But I do like the "expecting" to win the MAC East. They should be "expecting" to run the table in the East. It shows me that he is trying to change the attitude.Lol, you don't think the team would've said they expected to win the MAC East last year if asked? I'm sure there's a newspaper article out there somewhere with someone saying they expected to win the MAC East, and from 2008, 2007, 2006....And the month long "hell week" is nothing new. Brooky did the same thing when he got here. Like I said earlier, standard "weeding out" practice.Well the difference being, I had a chance to talk Allen, Balaam, and a couple of the other guys before the season started. They had no belief in Jacq, so no, I don't think they would have said it. I think they wanted to, but I don't think they expected it.And I appreciate the "that's all been done before". I know it has, it was one of the things Faust and Owens talked about. And it's normal management behavior. Set expectations early. The difference here is that I think he is actually getting buy in. If transfers stay below 10 after the spring practice, then I would say he sold the team on his idealogy and that is a lot better jumping off point then if he has to wait to develop his guys to take over the leadership roles. Quote
InTheZone Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 I talked to some football players and they are going through a month-long "hell week" right now. They've never had it this tough before, and most of them acknowledge that it's a good thing. They expect to win the MAC East, even with Temple there.Here's some news, Temple has yet to win the MAC East, so they really aren't a bench mark. (Great season this year, I would have traded records in a heartbeat and schedules, since it was quite obvious the MAC padded it for them). But they aren't Marshall. But I do like the "expecting" to win the MAC East. They should be "expecting" to run the table in the East. It shows me that he is trying to change the attitude.Lol, you don't think the team would've said they expected to win the MAC East last year if asked? I'm sure there's a newspaper article out there somewhere with someone saying they expected to win the MAC East, and from 2008, 2007, 2006....And the month long "hell week" is nothing new. Brooky did the same thing when he got here. Like I said earlier, standard "weeding out" practice.Well the difference being, I had a chance to talk Allen, Balaam, and a couple of the other guys before the season started. They had no belief in Jacq, so no, I don't think they would have said it. I think they wanted to, but I don't think they expected it.And I appreciate the "that's all been done before". I know it has, it was one of the things Faust and Owens talked about. And it's normal management behavior. Set expectations early. The difference here is that I think he is actually getting buy in. If transfers stay below 10 after the spring practice, then I would say he sold the team on his idealogy and that is a lot better jumping off point then if he has to wait to develop his guys to take over the leadership roles.I'm just telling you, all this "new attitude and expectations" bullshit is a bad re-run that has happened over and over and over again in this program. Right now there's probably 1/3 guys who are pumped about the new staff, 1/3 of guys who hate the new staff and miss Brooky and the boys, and 1/3 who aren't sure yet. None of this rhetoric and "buying in" talk means two shits. We'll find out in the fall if the guy can actually coach, and that's all that matters. Quote
GP1 Posted March 11, 2010 Report Posted March 11, 2010 Right now there's probably 1/3 guys who are pumped about the new staff, 1/3 of guys who hate the new staff and miss Brooky and the boys, and 1/3 who aren't sure yet. None of this rhetoric and "buying in" talk means two shits. We'll find out in the fall if the guy can actually coach, and that's all that matters.Of the 33% who are pumped, I would say most of those are guys looking for a second chance or are just sick and tired of the losing.Of the 33% who hate the new guy, I'm not worried about them. A certain number of players hate the coach regardless of who he is. Many of them are the type of player who thinks he is too good for UofA. A lot of haters probably had a free ride to the starting line-up.The last of the group is the most important. These guys are open minded worker bees and are waiting for the winning. They are probably also looking for some sign of improvement. They will push the rock for just about anyone for a lot of reasons. One primary reason they are so willing to push it is they probably really like going to school at UofA. These guys will run until their legs fall off. Good coaching will win them over. Quote
MDZip Posted March 12, 2010 Report Posted March 12, 2010 As I believe Casey Stengel once said "The key to management is to keep the five guys that hate you away from the five guys who are undecided". Quote
Dr Z Posted March 12, 2010 Report Posted March 12, 2010 A certain number of players hate the coach regardless of who he is. Many of them are the type of player who thinks he is too good for UofA. A lot of haters probably had a free ride to the starting line-up. I was talking to Jerry Olsavsky on the field at three rivers on draft day back when he was playing for the Steelers. Steelers were doing a meet and greet and I happened to be in town. It was the year they hired Bill Cowher. I asked him what the difference was between Chuck Noll and Bill Cowher, he looked me dead in the eye and said "they're both coaches, you hate them the same" Funny thing is, the Steelers just hired him to be a defensive assistant. Quote
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