Tressel Never Quit Recruiting Howard

[Dr Z]

Two words... Carl...Monday.

[Z-P]

I have also never seen him play so I don't know how good he really is. I do know a lot can change in a year or two so he may be better in a couple of years. Time will tell.

Think slow EJ Lilley, worse personal habits, slightly stronger, fewer academic skills

[Zipsrifle]

I wish the young man luck. Let's be honest, he will get more attention at OSU if he makes it. I think he is doing what he feels is best for him and that's what matters. Sure I wish he came to Akron and was successful on and off the field. I give him credit for what I see as him chasing a dream. 5 years from now if he is happy and has no regrets , then he did the right thing.

As for a recruiting issue, yes, it should be looked into and if there was wrong doing, nail them. It won't happen for three reasons:

1) It's OSU. Free pass from the Ohio media.

2) They put cash in the NCAA's pocket.

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

[GP1]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

[Z-P]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

[GP1]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

Let's assume all of that is true. If there is an NCAA violation, it is bigger than the grades.

As far as the girlfriend, before we look down our noses at this, we should all think about how something like that could have happend to A LOT of us in HS.

[Buckzip]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

Like I said before NLOID. The kid lacks character.

[GP1]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

Like I said before NLOID. The kid lacks character.

Does he lack character or is he just stupid? Does getting a girlfriend knocked-up a sign of a lack of character?....If so, is Tom Brady a guy who should be run from the NFL because he has knocked-up two girlfriends and has no character?

I also don't see where he is trashing the Zips.

[Buckzip]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

Like I said before NLOID. The kid lacks character.

Does he lack character or is he just stupid? Does getting a girlfriend knocked-up a sign of a lack of character?....If so, is Tom Brady a guy who should be run from the NFL because he has knocked-up two girlfriends and has no character?

I also don't see where he is trashing the Zips.

To answer your question, look at his grades to answer the stupid part. When he signed with Akron he made a comment that he was only signing with Akron until something better came along. To me that is scum. Also, I don't think comparing a pro athlete to a high school kid apples to apples. I get the point, but again, apples to oranges.

[GP1]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

Like I said before NLOID. The kid lacks character.

Does he lack character or is he just stupid? Does getting a girlfriend knocked-up a sign of a lack of character?....If so, is Tom Brady a guy who should be run from the NFL because he has knocked-up two girlfriends and has no character?

I also don't see where he is trashing the Zips.

To answer your question, look at his grades to answer the stupid part. When he signed with Akron he made a comment that he was only signing with Akron until something better came along. To me that is scum. Also, I don't think comparing a pro athlete to a high school kid apples to apples. I get the point, but again, apples to oranges.

Are you saying that kids having sex in high school have a lack of character? Or, are you saying kids in high school that are unlucky enough to fall onto the wrong side of the pregnancy odds while having sex in high school have a lack of character?

Howard is an adult. Tom Brady is an adult. Both got at least one girl pregnant as an adult. Why are they different?

[Buckzip]

3) If JT did contact this kid, do you really think he is dumb enough to call from his or a dept phone?

Let's find out. If he did contact him from somewhere other than an office or University paid phone, where did he call from? A boosters phone? Was he contacting his HS coach to act as a middle man? Lots of questions.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree so to speak. All this is spin (I think) to conceal the fact that he missed the 4 "B's" he needed, getting 3 "C's" and a "D", hense not qualifying. So he wouldn't have been coming anyway. This is probably a story to cover up that fact. If this is true (all rumor keep in mind) I hate the fact he's taken to trashing our program so he has a body to step on and make himself look good.

As a side craziness, his HS girlfriend is preggies also...........rumor has it.

Like I said before NLOID. The kid lacks character.

Does he lack character or is he just stupid? Does getting a girlfriend knocked-up a sign of a lack of character?....If so, is Tom Brady a guy who should be run from the NFL because he has knocked-up two girlfriends and has no character?

I also don't see where he is trashing the Zips.

To answer your question, look at his grades to answer the stupid part. When he signed with Akron he made a comment that he was only signing with Akron until something better came along. To me that is scum. Also, I don't think comparing a pro athlete to a high school kid apples to apples. I get the point, but again, apples to oranges.

Are you saying that kids having sex in high school have a lack of character? Or, are you saying kids in high school that are unlucky enough to fall onto the wrong side of the pregnancy odds while having sex in high school have a lack of character?

Howard is an adult. Tom Brady is an adult. Both got at least one girl pregnant as an adult. Why are they different?

This conversation is going to go nowhere. We obviously have a different set of morals.

[InTheZone]

Mr. Tressel has quite a history with this as a matter of fact. There was a certain D-lineman at Akron as a non-qualifier in '05 that CLAIMED he had been told by Tressel to go to Akron and get his grades and transfer. The guy claimed that he still talked to Tressel every week. Was he telling the truth? Who knows, maybe he was just trying to impress people into thinking he was more than he was, but maybe there's a pattern here.

[Hilltopper]

Howard is an adult.

17-18 year olds hardly qualify as "Adults". Half of the 25 year olds I know still haven't grown up enough to be responsible adults. All this talk about tOSU is proof of his immaturity.

[Dr Z]

Howard is an adult. Tom Brady is an adult. Both got at least one girl pregnant as an adult. Why are they different?

This conversation is going to go nowhere. We obviously have a different set of morals.

I wonder how Tom Brady's life would be different if he got his high school girlfriend pregnant in high school instead of a super model after an established NFL career?

[cornbread]

Morals?

Pregnancy?

Arguing over the essence of adulthood?

Football season needs to get here quickly.

[RootforRoo44]

Howard is an adult. Tom Brady is an adult. Both got at least one girl pregnant as an adult. Why are they different?

This conversation is going to go nowhere. We obviously have a different set of morals.

I wonder how Tom Brady's life would be different if he got his high school girlfriend pregnant in high school instead of a super model after an established NFL career?

I dont know but i'm sure it would be very different. I agree with Buckzip on this one.

[cornbread]

Howard is an adult. Tom Brady is an adult. Both got at least one girl pregnant as an adult. Why are they different?

This conversation is going to go nowhere. We obviously have a different set of morals.

I wonder how Tom Brady's life would be different if he got his high school girlfriend pregnant in high school instead of a super model after an established NFL career?

I dont know but i'm sure it would be very different. I agree with Buckzip on this one.

I agree.... I bet Tom Brady had a much better time with his female counterparts than Howard did with Akron's finest.

FTW

[Zips Win!]

F Jim Tressel and F Ohio State. Done.

Easy on my man, JT.

Remember, we have to be ever grateful for Jim Tressel because he wrote the forward to our book..." Our Boys in Blue and Gold".

[Buckzip]

Morals?

Pregnancy?

Arguing over the essence of adulthood?

Football season needs to get here quickly.

You got that right.

[GP1]

Howard is an adult. Tom Brady is an adult. Both got at least one girl pregnant as an adult. Why are they different?

This conversation is going to go nowhere. We obviously have a different set of morals.

I wonder how Tom Brady's life would be different if he got his high school girlfriend pregnant in high school instead of a super model after an established NFL career?

ONE supermodel? Try he got two different supermodels pregnant in an 18 month period. One he married. Brady left the bastard child with the other.

Since I actually know almost none of the people on the board, I can only assume some things. One is a lot of people on this board are really old or have double standards or at one time were the world's oldest virgins or got married at 18 so they could finally have sex.

How many of you who think a kid having sex in high school is a sign of bad character and the kid should not be able to play college football think we could actually field a DIII team if that was the case?

[GP1]

Howard is an adult.

17-18 year olds hardly qualify as "Adults". Half of the 25 year olds I know still haven't grown up enough to be responsible adults. All this talk about tOSU is proof of his immaturity.

As a matter of fact, 18 qualifys as an adult. I'm sure Mr. Howard's stellar academic performance set him back at least a year. The kid is probably near or at 19.

[GP1]

Mr. Tressel has quite a history with this as a matter of fact. There was a certain D-lineman at Akron as a non-qualifier in '05 that CLAIMED he had been told by Tressel to go to Akron and get his grades and transfer. The guy claimed that he still talked to Tressel every week. Was he telling the truth? Who knows, maybe he was just trying to impress people into thinking he was more than he was, but maybe there's a pattern here.

What makes this Howard situation so unique is the public statement that Tressel never stopped recruiting. Locker room talk is one thing, public statements are another.

There is also a pattern that has always been around the Zips program in the past 20 years. There are a lot of guys playing for the Zips who came to UofA because nobody else wanted them. I don't care what the recruiting services say about who was getting recruited by whom, that's what really goes on. One reason MAC schools suck is it is hard to get a team where half of the guys believe they are settling for something less than what they should have to be successful. It's hard to win with that mentality.

In reality, Howard is so stupid that he publically admitted what a lot of guys at UofA think behind closed doors.

[Z.I.P.]

Mr. Tressel has quite a history with this as a matter of fact. There was a certain D-lineman at Akron as a non-qualifier in '05 that CLAIMED he had been told by Tressel to go to Akron and get his grades and transfer. The guy claimed that he still talked to Tressel every week. Was he telling the truth? Who knows, maybe he was just trying to impress people into thinking he was more than he was, but maybe there's a pattern here.

What makes this Howard situation so unique is the public statement that Tressel never stopped recruiting. Locker room talk is one thing, public statements are another.

There is also a pattern that has always been around the Zips program in the past 20 years. There are a lot of guys playing for the Zips who came to UofA because nobody else wanted them. I don't care what the recruiting services say about who was getting recruited by whom, that's what really goes on. One reason MAC schools suck is it is hard to get a team where half of the guys believe they are settling for something less than what they should have to be successful. It's hard to win with that mentality.

In reality, Howard is so stupid that he publically admitted what a lot of guys at UofA think behind closed doors.

YES, BUT...We are moving up to players who are only interested in wearing the Blue and Gold because they can't get into tOSU. In the past we had to take kids who only came to Akron because they couldn't get into MARSHALL!!