Moral Victories for Today

[ZipRoo]

Dave, my point is that Icoach doesn't have the background to be able to turn things around. Chizik may not have been successful at Iowa State, but he was a proven winner and had been around winning programs. Icoach has been with loosing programs his whole Career, its part of who he is. There is no way he is going to loose his job, no matter how poorly the team performs. We are stuck with him for the next few years, so I hope he has some kind of plan.

OK, I wasn't addressing that point in my original post, and what you say doesn't contradict anything I said. But since you bring up Ianello's association with losing programs his whole career, you should be aware that the record book contradicts your point. Here's Ianello's career record as an assistant coach prior to coming to UA:

1988–1989 Alabama (SEC): 9-3, 10-2 (19-5). Overall winning program.

1990–1993 Wisconsin (Big Ten): 1-10, 5-6, 5-6, 10-1-1 (21-23-1). Program went from big loser to big winner.

1994–2002 Arizona (Pac-10): 8-4, 6-5, 5-6, 7-5, 12-1, 6-6, 5-6, 5-6, 4-8 (58-47). Overall winning program.

2003–2004 Wisconsin (Big Ten): 7-6, 9-3 (16-9). Overall winning program.

2005–2009 Notre Dame (Independent): 9-3, 10-3, 3-9, 7-6, 6-6 (35-27). Overall winning program.

To summarize, Ianello had an overall winning record at four of his five assistant coaching gigs, and in the one where the record was just under .500, he helped turn the program around from a 1-10 record to 10-1-1 in four years.

So, while Ianello's career as an assistant is not as brilliant as Chizik's, it's also not one of a perennial loser.

Like we've said before, Dave....an Ianello apologist. Are you trying to say by your numbers that the Rob Ianello we know is responsible for turning around ANY program...past, present or future? With all due respect, you're dreaming. Keep spinning, though.

[akronad]

Dave, my point is that Icoach doesn't have the background to be able to turn things around. Chizik may not have been successful at Iowa State, but he was a proven winner and had been around winning programs. Icoach has been with loosing programs his whole Career, its part of who he is. There is no way he is going to loose his job, no matter how poorly the team performs. We are stuck with him for the next few years, so I hope he has some kind of plan.

OK, I wasn't addressing that point in my original post, and what you say doesn't contradict anything I said. But since you bring up Ianello's association with losing programs his whole career, you should be aware that the record book contradicts your point. Here's Ianello's career record as an assistant coach prior to coming to UA:

1988–1989 Alabama (SEC): 9-3, 10-2 (19-5). Overall winning program.

1990–1993 Wisconsin (Big Ten): 1-10, 5-6, 5-6, 10-1-1 (21-23-1). Program went from big loser to big winner.

1994–2002 Arizona (Pac-10): 8-4, 6-5, 5-6, 7-5, 12-1, 6-6, 5-6, 5-6, 4-8 (58-47). Overall winning program.

2003–2004 Wisconsin (Big Ten): 7-6, 9-3 (16-9). Overall winning program.

2005–2009 Notre Dame (Independent): 9-3, 10-3, 3-9, 7-6, 6-6 (35-27). Overall winning program.

To summarize, Ianello had an overall winning record at four of his five assistant coaching gigs, and in the one where the record was just under .500, he helped turn the program around from a 1-10 record to 10-1-1 in four years.

So, while Ianello's career as an assistant is not as brilliant as Chizik's, it's also not one of a perennial loser.

Like we've said before, Dave....an Ianello apologist. Are you trying to say by your numbers that the Rob Ianello we know is responsible for turning around ANY program...past, present or future? With all due respect, you're dreaming. Keep spinning, though.

I don't care how any of spins this, whehter it is pro or anti Ianello. We will still have him around for at least one year and more than likely two years.

[Hilltopper]

I don't care how any of spins this, whether it is pro or anti Ianello. We will still have him around for at least one year and more than likely two years.

Even that is wishful thinking. I would bet that we have him around for the entire length of his contract. UA is not going to buy this contract out. They don't have the money.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I don't care how any of spins this, whether it is pro or anti Ianello. We will still have him around for at least one year and more than likely two years.

Even that is wishful thinking. I would bet that we have him around for the entire length of his contract. UA is not going to buy this contract out. They don't have the money.

Tough to buy-out $350k - $950k worth of contracts, when you are selling 4k worth of tickets in a $62 million stadium. UA Athletics is definitely not swimming in excess cash right now.

Can we get Jim Tressel to donate $1million to buy out the contract, if we let Luke "The Messiah" Fickell take the reigns?

[GP1]

Luke "The Messiah" Fickell

Nice touch....of course the guy is the Messiah, he's from Ohio. That's all it takes to be a good coach (two of our three D-1A coaches were from Ohio).

[Buckzip]

I don't care how any of spins this, whether it is pro or anti Ianello. We will still have him around for at least one year and more than likely two years.

Even that is wishful thinking. I would bet that we have him around for the entire length of his contract. UA is not going to buy this contract out. They don't have the money.

Tough to buy-out $350k - $950k worth of contracts, when you are selling 4k worth of tickets in a $62 million stadium. UA Athletics is definitely not swimming in excess cash right now.

Can we get Jim Tressel to donate $1million to buy out the contract, if we let Luke "The Messiah" Fickell take the reigns?

Like I keep asking. What has Fickell done that makes anyone think he would be a good HC?

[RootforRoo44]

Am i the only one who is sick of all this football talk? I love football as much as the rest of you and of course think of the football program as the most important at UA but all of this is just starting to make me sick.

The thought of Ianello and his destruction of this program is a terrible thing.

[Dr Z]

Am i the only one who is sick of all this football talk?

Then why would you click on the football forum link? ZN offers you so much more.

[Buckzip]

Am i the only one who is sick of all this football talk? I love football as much as the rest of you and of course think of the football program as the most important at UA but all of this is just starting to make me sick.

The thought of Ianello and his destruction of this program is a terrible thing.

Are you being sarcastic or do you just not realize you clicked on the football forum?

[Dave in Green]

Like we've said before, Dave....an Ianello apologist. Are you trying to say by your numbers that the Rob Ianello we know is responsible for turning around ANY program...past, present or future? With all due respect, you're dreaming. Keep spinning, though.

"We've said"? Are you the official spokesperson for the Anti-Ianello League, or is there a mouse in your pocket?

Now let me get this straight. In response to an erroneous claim that Ianello has always been with losing programs throughout his career, I do my homework and find the win-loss records of all the teams where he was an assistant coach that shows exactly the opposite, and this makes me an apologist?

So, let's say that someone erroneously claims that Ianello is 90 years old, and I do my homework and find his actual birth date. That would make me an apologist?

You are really cracking me up!