RootforRoo44 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 What a joke... Fire TW and RI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 It's the perfect end to a great game in this season of going all the way! The Zips seek perfection and it's a wonderful thing that their quest wasn't ruined this afternoon! GO ZIPS! STZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Recruiting a good quarterback has to be priority number one for RI, Nicely just doesn't cut it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 .... and we lose a heart-breaker in the Pathetic Bowl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyake Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 What a joke... Fire TW and RI. Maybe TW, but would cost too much to fire RI, whether he ruins the program or not. We have to accept that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsfan13 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Wow. There's that other INT you were looking for, zf13. I knew it was coming at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 OK, quiet everybody, iCoach is speaking ... "blah-BLAHHHHHH! one more plAYYYYY. blah-BLAHHHHHHHH! proud of our TEEEEaammm. blah-BLAHHHH. continue to imPROOOOVVVe. ....." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Couldn't imagine a more fitting ending to this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 What a joke... Fire TW and RI. Coach didn't throw multiple INTs at the worst possible moments. Coach didn't botch a PAT that should be automatic at this point in the kicker's career. Coach didn't commit any penalties. of course there are plays that could have been called better. Of course there are management issues with the way we run the clock. But at the end of the day, the players (especially at the more critical positions) need to suck it up and make plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 That indeed was a pillow fight! Two bad teams trying to figure out how to lose again. One of the many reasons 0-10 teams are 0-10 is because they don't make plays when they need to. Steve French called it. The BSU pass on 4th and 9 should have/needed to be picked. It wasn't! The guys Akron had on the field were not capable of making a play when one was needed. No names please. Of course you can always go back and look at the entire game and wonder why it came down to that in the first place. Too bad its not the NFL. A number 1 pick would look real good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 That indeed was a pillow fight! Two bad teams trying to figure out how to lose again. One of the many reasons 0-10 teams are 0-10 is because they don't make plays when they need to. Steve French called it. The BSU pass on 4th and 9 should have/needed to be picked. It wasn't! The guys Akron had on the field were not capable of making a play when one was needed. No names please. Of course you can always go back and look at the entire game and wonder why it came down to that in the first place. Too bad its not the NFL. A number 1 pick would look real good. No...it should have been KNOCKED DOWN. It was 4th down. No need for a pick. But I know....a lot of other plays that could have affected this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I'm pissed about this regardless. A LOT of changes need to be made EVERYWHERE in this program. ASN take on another mess of a loss. (again i'm pissed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 Thees last 2 paragraphs from ASN say it all... "UP NEXT The Zips now go into a bye week but return on Wednesday the 17th to take on Miami (Ohio) at home at 6pm. The game will be televised on ESPN U, unless of course ESPN realizes their mistake and opts to show reruns of the previous Olympics’ curling finals to bring in more viewers. But hey, don’t let the bad football turn you away as tailgating should still be great! NOTES Nothing interesting, just more bad football." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Coach didn't botch a PAT that should be automatic at this point in the kicker's career. Please tell me this didn't actually happen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Coach didn't botch a PAT that should be automatic at this point in the kicker's career. Please tell me this didn't actually happen.... Well, first a penalty was called on a play that special teams should be able to do in their sleep. The penalty was on Igor himself (illegal shift?) and then he took it upon himself to blow the extra point on the second attempt from the incredibly difficult distance of 25 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Coach didn't botch a PAT that should be automatic at this point in the kicker's career. Please tell me this didn't actually happen.... We got called for illegal motion/shift on TWO of our PATs this afternoon. We also hit the BSU QB out of bounds on a 3rd-and-long, gave them new life, and they scored a TD on one of the next plays. Our discipline sucks, ESPECIALLY considering we're in week 10, and I do put some of that on iCoach and staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I sure hope this is true. I'm not giving up complete hope until I see the guys he brings in with this next class. Unfortunately, I feel the same way. Everyone touted him as this recruiting god, so I want to see what he can do to improve us for next year. I just hope for everyone's sanity that we win 1 or 2 this year. We really need to. Unfortunately I have yet to see anything this season to indicate that we will. I know its really early, but iCoach will need to produce a damn good recruiting class and put up at least a 4 or 5 win season if he wants any chance of winning back most of us. He's got a VERY steep uphill battle ahead of him and he will need to bring out all the stops if he wants a chance at saving this program. I do know what he'll be telling every recruit this winter: play for us and you'll have a damn good shot at playing as a freshman The thing I look at is the problem that Brian Kelly is having winning with Ianello's recruits at ND this year. Kelly is a proven coach. Maybe those ND recruits that were brought in over the past few years weren't all that good? There was an article about a week ago on CBS Sports asking what's wrong with Notre Dame losing so many games despite having had consistently highly ranked recruiting classes: CBS Sports Rivals.com grades recruiting classes by teams each year, and you can see how Ianello did each year while at ND. Here's a link to 2008, where ND was second only to Alabama: Rivals.com Of course, this will all be meaningless to Zips fans if Ianello can't leverage his proven recruiting ability into a winning record at UA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipRoo Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 RE: The thing I look at is the problem that Brian Kelly is having winning with Ianello's recruits at ND this year. Kelly is a proven coach. Maybe those ND recruits that were brought in over the past few years weren't all that good? And RE: There was an article about a week ago on CBS Sports asking what's wrong with Notre Dame losing so many games despite having had consistently highly ranked recruiting classes: If we use the twisted logic of many posters here, Brian Kelly won't be able to win at ND "until he has a chance to BRING IN HIS OWN RECRUITS," isn't that right, Ianello apologists? But wait! Ianello had "consistently highly ranked classes." (scratch head) Ergo, either Kelly is NOT a good coach....or Ianello is an overrated recruiter, right? Factor in that Ianello is not a good COACH, either, and we've got a real quagmire here. Giggidy. "Honestly, I don't know how I look at myself in the mirror in the morning." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Brian Kelly won't be able to win at ND "until he has a chance to BRING IN HIS OWN RECRUITS," When Kelly gets a QB like Dan L and Pike at ND, he will win 8-9 games. The secret to coaching is catching lightning in a bottle then moving up the pay scale. Kelly will do that at ND for a couple of years and then fall back down to 6-7 wins a get fired like all the rest. He can then retire on a giant buy out. Good players made Brian Kelly and all other coaches. Remember two years ago everyone talked about Jim Grobe being the best coach in America? This season, his Wake team is sitting at two wins against the mighty Blue Hose of Presby and Duke. Hear anyone saying he is the best coach in America? He was a great coach when he had the Seahawks Aaron Curry, the Lions Alphonso Smith, the Panthers Kenny Moore and Riley "Rhymes with Winner" Skinner all on the same team. Those guys leave and he is back to the guy who coached at OU. How many people know Jim Grobe has a sub .500 caree record as a head coach? EDIT: Jim Grobe has a career 94-90-1 record. I misread something on the internet. Sorry for the mistake. There are few great coaches. Kelly and Grobe are not great, but they are great when they are like all coaches who get surrounded by great players. Take away the great players and they are no longer great. Go figure. Anyhow, back to the Zips...... I'm going to go work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Brian Kelly won't be able to win at ND "until he has a chance to BRING IN HIS OWN RECRUITS," When Kelly gets a QB like Dan L and Pike at ND, he will win 8-9 games. The secret to coaching is catching lightning in a bottle then moving up the pay scale. Kelly will do that at ND for a couple of years and then fall back down to 6-7 wins a get fired like all the rest. He can then retire on a giant buy out. Good players made Brian Kelly and all other coaches. Remember two years ago everyone talked about Jim Grobe being the best coach in America? This season, his Wake team is sitting at two wins against the mighty Blue Hose of Presby and Duke. Hear anyone saying he is the best coach in America? He was a great coach when he had the Seahawks Aaron Curry, the Lions Alphonso Smith, the Panthers Kenny Moore and Riley "Rhymes with Winner" Skinner all on the same team. Those guys leave and he is back to the guy who coached at OU. How many people know Jim Grobe has a sub .500 caree record as a head coach? There are few great coaches. Kelly and Grobe are not great, but they are great when they are like all coaches who get surrounded by great players. Take away the great players and they are no longer great. Go figure. Anyhow, back to the Zips...... I'm going to go work out. So... if you really can recruit great players then you don't actually have to be a great coach to win? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Brian Kelly won't be able to win at ND "until he has a chance to BRING IN HIS OWN RECRUITS," When Kelly gets a QB like Dan L and Pike at ND, he will win 8-9 games. The secret to coaching is catching lightning in a bottle then moving up the pay scale. Kelly will do that at ND for a couple of years and then fall back down to 6-7 wins a get fired like all the rest. He can then retire on a giant buy out. Good players made Brian Kelly and all other coaches. Remember two years ago everyone talked about Jim Grobe being the best coach in America? This season, his Wake team is sitting at two wins against the mighty Blue Hose of Presby and Duke. Hear anyone saying he is the best coach in America? He was a great coach when he had the Seahawks Aaron Curry, the Lions Alphonso Smith, the Panthers Kenny Moore and Riley "Rhymes with Winner" Skinner all on the same team. Those guys leave and he is back to the guy who coached at OU. How many people know Jim Grobe has a sub .500 caree record as a head coach? There are few great coaches. Kelly and Grobe are not great, but they are great when they are like all coaches who get surrounded by great players. Take away the great players and they are no longer great. Go figure. Anyhow, back to the Zips...... I'm going to go work out. So... if you really can recruit great players then you don't actually have to be a great coach to win? I'll jump in on this. And I've believed for a long time that this applies to any sport.... Coaches certainly get far too much credit and blame. When they win, everyone thinks their coach is good. When they lose, everyone thinks their coach is bad. I think that good coaches make players better, but I don't believe in miracles. Even the best coaches can't build a successful program with bad players. But when you have bad players and bad coaching, you can have an absolute disaster on your hands. Does this remind you of any team right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 So... if you really can recruit great players then you don't actually have to be a great coach to win? That is correct. You don't have to be great. You can be good (there is a difference between good and great), recruit great players and create the illusion of greatness. Once the great players go away, you go back to just being good. Jim Grobe is a good coach fielding absolutely horrible talent. He is 2-7 right now. The talent is the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 My Pick of the Year - Zips Beat Ball State. Alex Allen rushes for 100+. PN7 throws TD's to two of his own WR's. Zips 22 Ball State 19 Man, I was close on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 We all know that a football team's performance is a combination of coach and player performance. How good or great a coach has Mack Brown been at the University of Texas in recent years? How good or great a coach has Mack Brown been this year without Colt McCoy at QB? Same team with the same coach and some different players, and UT has gone from perennial winners to a sub-.500 team in a single season. Whose more responsible for this, the coach or the players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy2010 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 It was a perfect end of the gam to a consistant season......PN7 threw and interception to lose the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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