Akron September opponent's coach in hot water?

[Captain Kangaroo]

For someone who claims to know it all, I'd expect you to know a bit more about the reality of collegiate athletics. If you don't think Akron and every other D1 program breaks rules and covers up violations all the time, you're either in denial or just blind.

"Everyone does it." "Everyone cheats...he just got caught." Blah blah blah...

Jim Tressel KNEW his players committed a MAJOR NCAA violation.

Jim Tressel played student athletes who should have been on suspension in order to win a game.

Jim Tressel is a cheat. A liar. A phony.

Early in 2010 there was an article in the Plain Dealer detailing 17 secondary recruiting violations by Ohio State. I never posted that article here because minor stuff goes on everywhere. I could care less about a text or two that occurred in a non-contact period, or an Ohio State alum trying to sway a recruit to Columbus.

In your warped world Tressel can do no wrong. Writers don't research. You make up your own reality. You cope with your hero's downfall through the same rationalizations that people do whenever a charismatic fraud is exposed.

OJ could still get a foursome after he killed 2 people. Jimmy Swaggart could still fill a church after skanking it up. And Tressel will still have plenty of sheep to follow him.

Tressel knowingly played ineligible players. That's as big a cheat as there is.

If you look the other way, I can only say "Baaaa....baaaaa."

[UAZip0510]

The Yahoo! Sports story was the result of a two-month investigation. The story quotes an unidentified source on key issues, but does not say that was the only source. Yahoo! Sports obviously did their homework in a very professional manner, as evidenced by the fact that they nailed the facts before anyone else. Every sports news organization in America will vouch for the fact that Yahoo! Sports did exactly what a good news organization is supposed to do.

In looking at the further evidence that was released today that wasn't in the initial report, they did do their research...I was certainly wrong on that. I stand by my opinion that Tressel/OSU should have been given longer than 3 hours to respond before the story was published...that's just one of those unwritten journalism rules. Nonetheless, I was wrong about the work they did in uncovering this...seems as if they did their homework.

When a news organization is sitting on top of a story that's about to break, they are only obliged to give someone enough time to respond before their own deadline. You don't hold a story waiting for a call that might not come when other news organizations are out there trying to scoop you. In today's environment, where everyone is linked together with real-time instantaneous communication, three hours is a reasonable time to respond to a request for comment on a breaking story.

I can see what you're saying...while that was always the unwritten rule, times have indeed changed...I might be a bit too old fashioned lol

[GP1]

As for whoever it was that said this is great reporting, I disagree wholeheartedly. They are basing an entire story on one anonymous source. There was an anonymous source three days before "The Decision" that said LeBron was coming back to Cleveland...we saw how that worked out. There is zero evidence, and until evidence comes up, Tressel is innocent until proven guilty.

I was the one who said it was great reporting....and I was right.

Care to respond?

Yep, I do. He cited one anonymous source (the cardinal rule of reporting is you have at least two), didn't tell the whole story (like including the actual evidence), and only gave Ohio State/Tressel three HOURS to respond to the report before being published.

Bush. League.

He had the biggest story since the steroid baseball stories 100% on the money. That was major league reporting.

[UAZip0510]

As for whoever it was that said this is great reporting, I disagree wholeheartedly. They are basing an entire story on one anonymous source. There was an anonymous source three days before "The Decision" that said LeBron was coming back to Cleveland...we saw how that worked out. There is zero evidence, and until evidence comes up, Tressel is innocent until proven guilty.

I was the one who said it was great reporting....and I was right.

Care to respond?

Yep, I do. He cited one anonymous source (the cardinal rule of reporting is you have at least two), didn't tell the whole story (like including the actual evidence), and only gave Ohio State/Tressel three HOURS to respond to the report before being published.

Bush. League.

He had the biggest story since the steroid baseball stories 100% on the money. That was major league reporting.

This is the biggest story since steroids?

[GP1]

Jim Tressel KNEW his players committed a MAJOR NCAA violation.

Last April......

At a minimum, the following should happen to tOSU:

1. In ADDITION to the two game suspension, Liar, Liar pants on fire Tressel should be suspended by the Big Ten for five Big Ten games.

2. tOSU should have to forfeit all games in the 2010 Big Ten season for playing not one....not two....not three, but SIX ineligible players during the season.

3. Split equally among all Big Ten programs all BCS money earned from the Sugar Bowl.

4. Probation from bowls for at least one year.

If the NCAA does not step in, this will reflect terribly on them. It will tell every coach and school it is OK to lie in an investigation AND continue to lie even when found out.

What tOSU needs to do is fire Tressel, because it is going to get worse. ESPN hasn't moved on to another story so there must still be something out there. We have had this talk already this week. The Steelers fans believed they couldn't live without Cowher and they were able to replace him with a better coach. No tOSU fan should think for a single second Tressel can't be replaced. Everyone is replaceable. There is always someone out there smarter, with more money and better looking. tOSU is a football factory and the factory can run with or without Tressel.

[GP1]

This is the biggest story since steroids?

Since reporters don't actually investigate anything anymore in sports, I would say yes. It's OK to jut admit I was right.

[GP1]

This guy was the lawyer sending notest to Tressel. If it was Paul Cicero, nobody would have found out. Interesting theme in all of these stories....There is mention of this guy being suspended for something. Isn't it funny that stories involving even people around Tressel have the word "suspended" in them?

The funny thing about Tressel is this....You can take the boy out of Youngstown, but you can't take the Youngstown out of the boy. While he didn't grow up there, he picked up a lot of stench.

[UAZip0510]

For someone who claims to know it all, I'd expect you to know a bit more about the reality of collegiate athletics. If you don't think Akron and every other D1 program breaks rules and covers up violations all the time, you're either in denial or just blind.

"Everyone does it." "Everyone cheats...he just got caught." Blah blah blah...

Jim Tressel KNEW his players committed a MAJOR NCAA violation.

Jim Tressel played student athletes who should have been on suspension in order to win a game.

Jim Tressel is a cheat. A liar. A phony.

Early in 2010 there was an article in the Plain Dealer detailing 17 secondary recruiting violations by Ohio State. I never posted that article here because minor stuff goes on everywhere. I could care less about a text or two that occurred in a non-contact period, or an Ohio State alum trying to sway a recruit to Columbus.

In your warped world Tressel can do no wrong. Writers don't research. You make up your own reality. You cope with your hero's downfall through the same rationalizations that people do whenever a charismatic fraud is exposed.

OJ could still get a foursome after he killed 2 people. Jimmy Swaggart could still fill a church after skanking it up. And Tressel will still have plenty of sheep to follow him.

Tressel knowingly played ineligible players. That's as big a cheat as there is.

If you look the other way, I can only say "Baaaa....baaaaa."

Funny...in 2009, Akron Zips Recruiting Coordinator/Running Backs Coach Reno Ferri was placed on administrative leave and suspended with pay, pending an internal review of compliance requirements with NCAA rules investigation. Instead of waiting out that investigation, Ferri resigned. It was obvious to most that, while he was a great person by all accounts, Ferri had to have done something wrong. Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process? There was certainly more to this than just a "secondary violation", and Ferri got out before things got bad. Who came to Ferri's defense? CK, of course:

"The violation of which Coach Ferri was accused is, based upon my research, considered a "secondary violation" by the NCAA. Penalties range from absolutely nothing, to loss of a car trip or two for recruiting this fall. That's it. And those allegations remain unproven/under investigation at this time."

"The alleged "compliance issue" is known by UA. I know for a fact that it is "minor," as defined by the NCAA. There are those who say "a violation is a violation." Ok...then murder and jaywalking are both crimes. If you walk out of the office @ 5pm with a Company Bic pen behind your ear...well...that's theft."[/

Different violations of course, but it's two coaches who, by most accounts, are good coaches and good men, but also two coaches who broke the rules. The Akron coach, although he ran from the issue and admitted nothing, gets a pass based on "personal research" (lol). The Ohio State coach, who admits his wrongdoing, is a liar, cheat, and a phony.

Not that I'm surprised...

I'm pretty much out of this discussion now fellas...to those who debated the issue with respect, I appreciate you, even if you disagreed 100% with me. Back to the basketball forums I go...I'm looking forward to getting back to the Info on 9/10.

GO ZIPS!!!!!!!!!

[UAZip0510]

This is the biggest story since steroids?

Since reporters don't actually investigate anything anymore in sports, I would say yes. It's OK to jut admit I was right.

You have to be a bit more specific...there's a difference between the biggest story in sports (NFL Lockout) and the biggest investigative report in sports (this one). You are definitely right on the latter.

[UAZip0510]

Jim Tressel KNEW his players committed a MAJOR NCAA violation.

Last April......

At a minimum, the following should happen to tOSU:

1. In ADDITION to the two game suspension, Liar, Liar pants on fire Tressel should be suspended by the Big Ten for five Big Ten games.

2. tOSU should have to forfeit all games in the 2010 Big Ten season for playing not one....not two....not three, but SIX ineligible players during the season.

3. Split equally among all Big Ten programs all BCS money earned from the Sugar Bowl.

4. Probation from bowls for at least one year.

If the NCAA does not step in, this will reflect terribly on them. It will tell every coach and school it is OK to lie in an investigation AND continue to lie even when found out.

What tOSU needs to do is fire Tressel, because it is going to get worse. ESPN hasn't moved on to another story so there must still be something out there. We have had this talk already this week. The Steelers fans believed they couldn't live without Cowher and they were able to replace him with a better coach. No tOSU fan should think for a single second Tressel can't be replaced. Everyone is replaceable. There is always someone out there smarter, with more money and better looking. tOSU is a football factory and the factory can run with or without Tressel.

Could this be used as comparison?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5824966

[GP1]

Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process?

It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong.

The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making.

Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did.

[UAZip0510]

Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process?

It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong.

The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making.

Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did.

Reno also didn't have a potential National Championship season on the line...it's a bit easier to walk away from Akron's situation. Reno also never owned up to his wrongdoing, resigning instead. I guess it depends on perception...and on a forum full of anti-OSU sentiment, I know I'm not winning there lol...I guess I should've realized that in the first place.

I'm out fellas...have a good night.

[GP1]

Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process?

It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong.

The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making.

Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did.

Reno also didn't have a potential National Championship season on the line...it's a bit easier to walk away from Akron's situation. Reno also never owned up to his wrongdoing, resigning instead. I guess it depends on perception...and on a forum full of anti-OSU sentiment, I know I'm not winning there lol.

Let me get this straight. You are saying it is OK to lie to the president of tOSU, your direct supervisor (the AD) AND the NCAA if you have a potential national championship season ahead of you? On what planet is this OK? It has nothing to do with tOSU. At any other school, in any other job, these actions would get an employee fired. Only at tOSU could this go on. The SEC has nothing on tOSU.

Reno took more risk. He gave up a low paying job for no money. What would Tressel give up?....He already has millions. Resigning from tOSU wouldn't hurt Tressel.

[UAZip0510]

Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process?

It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong.

The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making.

Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did.

Reno also didn't have a potential National Championship season on the line...it's a bit easier to walk away from Akron's situation. Reno also never owned up to his wrongdoing, resigning instead. I guess it depends on perception...and on a forum full of anti-OSU sentiment, I know I'm not winning there lol.

Let me get this straight. You are saying it is OK to lie to the president of tOSU, your direct supervisor (the AD) AND the NCAA if you have a potential national championship season ahead of you? On what planet is this OK? It has nothing to do with tOSU. At any other school, in any other job, these actions would get an employee fired. Only at tOSU could this go on. The SEC has nothing on tOSU.

Reno took more risk. He gave up a low paying job for no money. What would Tressel give up?....He already has millions. Resigning from tOSU wouldn't hurt Tressel.

When did I say it's OK? I've been very clear in saying that I don't think Tressel was right, and that he deserves some punishment. I'm just saying it's two very different situations. One has a head coaching job at a Top 10 school. The other had a low paying job at a mid-major. Tressel had a hell of a lot more to lose, which makes it a much more difficult.

Also, don't give me this crap that it wouldn't happen anywhere else. The SEC's oversigning (http://oversigning.com/testing/index.php/the-oversigning-cup/) scams are far more hurtful to recruiting and the game in general.

[UAZip0510]

OK, this is really my final word.

- Jim Tressel was wrong in what he did, and should receive a punishment, probably for 4-5 games, not 2. I don't believe he should get fired, and I don't think he's the terrible person some of you make him out to be. He's an excellent coach, and the large majority of his former players speak very highly of the man as a person. He made a critical error in judgment, but I don't think it should cost him his job.

- I brought up the Reno Ferri story and CK's comments as an attempt to show the bias from some on this forum. I made the mistake of forgetting that this was a Zips forum and one with plenty of people with heavy anti-OSU sentiment.

- It's unfortunate that on a Zips forum, Zips fans are questioning the "fanhood" of fellow Zips fans simply because they have differing opinions. I wonder how many stay away or have left for good because of this. It's too bad we can't just agree to disagree.

I'm out (for real this time)...time to get back to thinking about tomorrow's game against Miami.

GO ZIPS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dave in Green]

The Yahoo! Sports story was the result of a two-month investigation. The story quotes an unidentified source on key issues, but does not say that was the only source. Yahoo! Sports obviously did their homework in a very professional manner, as evidenced by the fact that they nailed the facts before anyone else. Every sports news organization in America will vouch for the fact that Yahoo! Sports did exactly what a good news organization is supposed to do.

In looking at the further evidence that was released today that wasn't in the initial report, they did do their research...I was certainly wrong on that. I stand by my opinion that Tressel/OSU should have been given longer than 3 hours to respond before the story was published...that's just one of those unwritten journalism rules. Nonetheless, I was wrong about the work they did in uncovering this...seems as if they did their homework.

When a news organization is sitting on top of a story that's about to break, they are only obliged to give someone enough time to respond before their own deadline. You don't hold a story waiting for a call that might not come when other news organizations are out there trying to scoop you. In today's environment, where everyone is linked together with real-time instantaneous communication, three hours is a reasonable time to respond to a request for comment on a breaking story.

I can see what you're saying...while that was always the unwritten rule, times have indeed changed...I might be a bit too old fashioned lol

I understand. I started out as a cub newspaper reporter straight out of college more than 40 years ago. No internet, no electronic social networks, no cell phones, etc. We had steno pads, pencils and manual typewriters, and burned a lot of shoe leather. The tools of reporting may have changed, and the speed of spreading news may have accelerated. But underneath all that, good reporting is still good reporting and bad reporting is still bad reporting. There's still nothing better to me than to see a good reporter go through the hard work and research required to produce a great investigative news story that is truly fair and balanced. It makes me nauseous when I see hack propaganda trumpeted as real news.

When you think about other news stories that drag out over time with continuing questions about what really happened, it's truly breathtaking how quickly the truth came gushing out immediately after Yahoo! Sports released this story.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Funny...in 2009, Akron Zips Recruiting Coordinator/Running Backs Coach Reno Ferri was placed on administrative leave and suspended with pay, pending an internal review of compliance requirements with NCAA rules investigation. Instead of waiting out that investigation, Ferri resigned. It was obvious to most that, while he was a great person by all accounts, Ferri had to have done something wrong. Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process? There was certainly more to this than just a "secondary violation", and Ferri got out before things got bad. Who came to Ferri's defense? CK, of course:

"The violation of which Coach Ferri was accused is, based upon my research, considered a "secondary violation" by the NCAA. Penalties range from absolutely nothing, to loss of a car trip or two for recruiting this fall. That's it. And those allegations remain unproven/under investigation at this time."

"The alleged "compliance issue" is known by UA. I know for a fact that it is "minor," as defined by the NCAA. There are those who say "a violation is a violation." Ok...then murder and jaywalking are both crimes. If you walk out of the office @ 5pm with a Company Bic pen behind your ear...well...that's theft."[/

Different violations of course, but it's two coaches who, by most accounts, are good coaches and good men, but also two coaches who broke the rules.

It is impossible to have a discussion with a person who invents their own reality, so I will post the following solely for those casual forum readers.

Jim Tressel's offense was a MAJOR NCAA violation. Ferri's offense was a secondary violation. The same level of violation that Ohio State football had 17 documented occurances in 2009-2010. Believe it or not -- There's a reason the NCAA has a differentiation between major and secondary.

Secondary offenses are nothing. Clearly reference the ZERO resulting NCAA sanctions against the Zips football program. Absolutely zero.

Clearly reference the $250k fine and two game suspension of Jim Tressel, with more sanctions to follow. Clearly reference the multitude of suspended players. Players suspended not for 1 or 2 games, but 5.

I feel bad when someone's hero lies and cheats in such an egregious manner. It obviously has rocked some people's very foundation. If posting fantasy beliefs regarding Ohio State football in a Zips football forum gets someone through the day, I'm happy to contribute to the coping mechanism. That's what we're here for. (lol) (omg) (PBR)

I'm also happy to see a post of mine from 2009 is still sought as a reference. After re-reading it, it still hold up (where's a pat on the back smilie when you really need it?). I like when people reference my quotes directly, and credit me, rather than paraphrase me and act like the copied thoughts were original.

[GP1]

Different violations of course, but it's two coaches who, by most accounts, are good coaches and good men, but also two coaches who broke the rules. The Akron coach, although he ran from the issue and admitted nothing, gets a pass based on "personal research" (lol). The Ohio State coach, who admits his wrongdoing, is a liar, cheat, and a phony.

Reno and Tressel are not the same. Reno is a guy who committed a minor offense and resigned in lieu of harming his organization. Tressel is a liar, cheat and a phony because he lied to his boss about a major NCAA violation, cheated by having players on the field who shouldn't have been there and a phony because he falsely portrays the image he is a clean cut guy.

The differences between these two people are vastly different. One is a good man, the other is a liar, cheat and a phony.

[ZachTheZip]

Different violations of course, but it's two coaches who, by most accounts, are good coaches and good men, but also two coaches who broke the rules. The Akron coach, although he ran from the issue and admitted nothing, gets a pass based on "personal research" (lol). The Ohio State coach, who admits his wrongdoing, is a liar, cheat, and a phony.

Reno and Tressel are not the same. Reno is a guy who committed a minor offense and resigned in lieu of harming his organization. Tressel is a liar, cheat and a phony because he lied to his boss about a major NCAA violation, cheated by having players on the field who shouldn't have been there and a phony because he falsely portrays the image he is a clean cut guy.

The differences between these two people are vastly different. One is a good man, the other is a liar, cheat and a phony.

Reno admitted his guilt of contacting a recruit outside the allowed period by resigning, before anyone -media or otherwise- needed to investigate. Tressel admitted guilt of knowing about his players committing an act that he would get them suspended only after getting exposed by the media and keeping it under wraps long enough to collect himself a Sugar Bowl trophy, and then let his superiors hand out a weak punishment instead of resigning.

[skip-zip]

I know the facts speak for themselves...plain and simple.

But, my real source of laughter continues to come from the denial, justifications and blind loyalty of OSWho fans. I've seen explainations that absolutely have me rolling on the floor. I know it's predictable. But it's still hilarious.

Thank you for the comedy, Cowlumbus State fans !!!

[ZachTheZip]

All I know for certain is that our FB team had better be smelling the blood in the water.

If they needed any extra motivation to work twice as hard for what is almost the entire offseason, it's getting handed to them on a silver and red platter.

Here is their chance to make improvements that they might not care enough to make if all they had to look forward to after their hard spring and summer work was a sound beating and a paycheck.

That kind of work would pay off over the entire season, not just the first game.

[GP1]

All I know for certain is that our FB team had better be smelling the blood in the water.

Let's just hope it isn't their own blood they are smelling.

[K92]

Nice breakdown if you haven't seen it already: Clay Travis

[UAZip0510]

Funny...in 2009, Akron Zips Recruiting Coordinator/Running Backs Coach Reno Ferri was placed on administrative leave and suspended with pay, pending an internal review of compliance requirements with NCAA rules investigation. Instead of waiting out that investigation, Ferri resigned. It was obvious to most that, while he was a great person by all accounts, Ferri had to have done something wrong. Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process? There was certainly more to this than just a "secondary violation", and Ferri got out before things got bad. Who came to Ferri's defense? CK, of course:

"The violation of which Coach Ferri was accused is, based upon my research, considered a "secondary violation" by the NCAA. Penalties range from absolutely nothing, to loss of a car trip or two for recruiting this fall. That's it. And those allegations remain unproven/under investigation at this time."

"The alleged "compliance issue" is known by UA. I know for a fact that it is "minor," as defined by the NCAA. There are those who say "a violation is a violation." Ok...then murder and jaywalking are both crimes. If you walk out of the office @ 5pm with a Company Bic pen behind your ear...well...that's theft."[/

Different violations of course, but it's two coaches who, by most accounts, are good coaches and good men, but also two coaches who broke the rules.

It is impossible to have a discussion with a person who invents their own reality, so I will post the following solely for those casual forum readers.

Jim Tressel's offense was a MAJOR NCAA violation. Ferri's offense was a secondary violation. The same level of violation that Ohio State football had 17 documented occurances in 2009-2010. Believe it or not -- There's a reason the NCAA has a differentiation between major and secondary.

Secondary offenses are nothing. Clearly reference the ZERO resulting NCAA sanctions against the Zips football program. Absolutely zero.

Clearly reference the $250k fine and two game suspension of Jim Tressel, with more sanctions to follow. Clearly reference the multitude of suspended players. Players suspended not for 1 or 2 games, but 5.

I feel bad when someone's hero lies and cheats in such an egregious manner. It obviously has rocked some people's very foundation. If posting fantasy beliefs regarding Ohio State football in a Zips football forum gets someone through the day, I'm happy to contribute to the coping mechanism. That's what we're here for. (lol) (omg) (PBR)

I'm also happy to see a post of mine from 2009 is still sought as a reference. After re-reading it, it still hold up (where's a pat on the back smilie when you really need it?). I like when people reference my quotes directly, and credit me, rather than paraphrase me and act like the copied thoughts were original.

I know I said I was done, but I can't let this pompous, arrogant response go. Want to talk about creating your own reality? How about you being a regular guy just like us that acts like he's above the rest of us or has some kind of insider information? You are just a fan that flip-flops more than a politician (Like KD on the hot seat to KD is Coach of the Year candidate). You are just a fan that needs to try to pump up his own ego by insulting fellow Zips fans and playing the "I'm a bigger fan than you" card. You can't have a discussion or a debate, you have to have an argument, and you have to "win".

You are just a fan, but in your world, you're an "insider" that can fool some people on the Internet into believing the same thing. It strokes your ego, it makes you feel good, and you bask in the attention, but everyone else is too nice to call you out on it. I'm not.

You are just a fan, nothing more, nothing less.

This would be a much better forum if you would realize that, and would realize that being a dick to fellow Zips fans isn't the way to go.

I know I've said this three times before, but I'm really out this time folks lol. I'm sure CK will respond with another sarcastic post that belittles me and falsely makes me out to be a Tressel/OSU lover...I'm sure it will be full of zingers lol.

Now, back to being excited about today's win and looking forward to tomorrow's game at the Q...LETS GO ZIPS!

[Z.I.P.]

What Jim Tressel did he did out of love! He did it to protect the honor of THE Ohio State University. The same way Jack Abramoff did his deed to protect the honor of the political PR profession, and those Indian tribes (the ones he wasn't screwing behind their backs), and the honor of the GOP. Sorry. I can say Jim Tressel is a fine man, and an excellent tennis partner. Sorry for the poaching, man. Enjoy the NFL.