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[skip-zip]

I only wonder what you were thinking of our QB play last year while you were one of the people who were defending, and waiting for a bad QB to magically emerge after 20 starts. It's not great right now, by any means, but I'll certainly take his 110 QB rating through his first 1/2 season over the 85 QB rating we painfully endured last year from an experienced QB, in a heartbeat.

Playmaker? In this particular game....Absolutely!! Again, nothing stellar is happening on that field right now, but one could easily make the case that we may have been shut out Saturday if not for Moore's ability to avoid the onslaught of rushers long enough to complete passes, and his ability to find yards on his own downfield. And the overthrown pass in the end zone near the end of the game could clearly been seen as a situation where he needed to get rid of the pass way too early on a blitz. Everyone in the stadium could see that.

Does he still need to improve his passing efficiency? By my expectations...yes. As I've said many times, a D-1A QB should still be in the 50s, regardless of whether he has a green crop of inexperienced receivers, and an OL that is quickly approaching devastating circumstances.

I saw him make a play at the end of the game as well that involved the football hitting the ground and ending up underneath a FIU defender. Neither QB has done anything to warrant starting. This decision rests solely on Icoach and he will take the fall when/if both fail. Why not give time to both because I believe neither has all of the skills needed to get the job done. Hell you might just confuse the defense a little and keep them guessing.

You mean the play where our own RB ran into him, which caused the fumble?

You may want to read my post again. It's not a raving endoresement for Moore's greatness. But it does show marked improvement. And after what we've seen at that position for the past 2 seasons, that should be encouraging news to any Zips fan.

Big play. You may want to read my post again because it wasn't a raving condemnation of Moore either. I don't see a huge improvement in QB play rather in the running game. We will revisit this at the end of the year but I do believe both QBs should see time. Moore’s play has not been stellar and neither has Nicely’s . Play both and go into next year with the battle running hot. I am not a Nicely or Moore suporter. I think they can exist together and have success.

Of course we'll all look at it again at the end of the season, and maybe he'll get even better, or maybe he won't. But, knowing that our beginning schedule was mostly brutal, I would sure as heck hope that it will continue to improve.

But at this point, having a QB rating 25 points higher after only a handful of games in his career doesn't leave me with the feeling that shared time between QBs is any benefit to us. And I think it also shows that our coach should feel justified in giving this guy nearly 100% of the QB play at this point. His rating is much better after only 1/2 of a season, and I want to see where it's at after a full season. And his ability to make plays out of nothing adds another benefit to our inept offense. Why would we go back now to something that failed us for nearly 2 seasons?

Dave had once mentioned that Moore may not be ready to carry a D-1A team. But last Saturday, he darn near did.

[GoZips]

While FIU #71 was instrumental in several five yard gains for the Zips; he had good help from FIU #54.

[K92]

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[UAZipster0305]

I love being able to park next to the stadium on home games and never having to wait in line for a bathroom or food .

Now THAT'S turning lemons into lemon-aid!

More like polishing a turd, CK.

[MaxZIP]

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Somehow the ZIPS have nearly 800 more offensive yards and 4 TDs more than Can't this year? Wow

[Dr Z]

All other stats aside, I like QB efficiency ratings as the best overall measurement of a QB's effectiveness.

ESPN "guys" tried to fixed the flawed QB rating with their own.

I have always gone by one rating for a QB...THE WIN COLUMN/CHAMPIONSHIPS. Some QBs are winners, while others are not.

[Dave in Green]

The best teams win the most games and championships, not necessarily the best QBs.

[Doug Snyder]

All other stats aside, I like QB efficiency ratings as the best overall measurement of a QB's effectiveness.

ESPN "guys" tried to fixed the flawed QB rating with their own.

I have always gone by one rating for a QB...THE WIN COLUMN/CHAMPIONSHIPS. Some QBs are winners, while others are not.

You probably would be high on Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart and Tim Tebow and would not give much respect to Matt Cassel or Tom Brady based on their college body of work.

Although I tend to agree with you, it is not always the case. It is not like we have an Iroc race where we can compare them under the same (or close to same) circumstances.

If all the stats show one thing and the coaches decisions confirm those stats and the team supports the decision...they have my support.

1-5 trumps 1-20 every day of the week. Hopefully 1-5 improves dramatically or we get a new player in the game.

[Dr Z]

You probably would be high on Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart and Tim Tebow and would not give much respect to Matt Cassel or Tom Brady based on their college body of work.

Now your getting it. I like when my team wins.

Take a guess who my favorite QB at Akron was? I'll give you a hint, his last name starts with a "G."

[Zip Watcher]

You probably would be high on Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart and Tim Tebow and would not give much respect to Matt Cassel or Tom Brady based on their college body of work.

Now your getting it. I like when my team wins.

Take a guess who my favorite QB at Akron was? I'll give you a hint, his last name starts with a "G."

Greg will be happy to hear that. He's a good guy too. Easy to root for.

[Hilltopper]

Greg will be happy to hear that. He's a good guy too. Easy to root for.

He seems to have done quite well for himself. Link

[Captain Kangaroo]

All other stats aside, I like QB efficiency ratings as the best overall measurement of a QB's effectiveness.

ESPN "guys" tried to fixed the flawed QB rating with their own.

I have always gone by one rating for a QB...THE WIN COLUMN/CHAMPIONSHIPS. Some QBs are winners, while others are not.

Reminds me of the old horse racing adage - "Don't tell me how fast he is, tell me who he's beaten."

People keep telling me what a playmaker LR8 is...all I see is a sub 50% completion percentage, two consecutive 4th quarter duds and 1-7 through October.

Prove me wrong, Kemosabe.

[Dave in Green]

The thing about QB controversies is that they almost always start with losing teams that lack a proven winning QB, and they almost never end until the team starts winning consistently behind one QB.

In between, fans desperately scour the earth for any shred of evidence that one QB might offer even a sliver more hope of winning than the other.

The closer the results under two different QBs, the harder it is to make a strong case for one over the other.

[Doug Snyder]

You probably would be high on Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart and Tim Tebow and would not give much respect to Matt Cassel or Tom Brady based on their college body of work.

Now your getting it. I like when my team wins.

Take a guess who my favorite QB at Akron was? I'll give you a hint, his last name starts with a "G."

I am older than you. I was there when we lost in the finals of thr D2 championship. So my list to choose from is probably longer than yours. But I understand your point.

[johnnyzip84]

You probably would be high on Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart and Tim Tebow and would not give much respect to Matt Cassel or Tom Brady based on their college body of work.

Now your getting it. I like when my team wins.

Take a guess who my favorite QB at Akron was? I'll give you a hint, his last name starts with a "G."

I am older than you. I was there when we lost in the finals of thr D2 championship. So my list to choose from is probably longer than yours. But I understand your point.

Hey let's not leave my fellow Torrey Hall resident Ron Gliha out of the discussion

[Lee Adams]

You probably would be high on Ken Dorsey, Matt Leinart and Tim Tebow and would not give much respect to Matt Cassel or Tom Brady based on their college body of work.

Now your getting it. I like when my team wins.

Take a guess who my favorite QB at Akron was? I'll give you a hint, his last name starts with a "G."

I am older than you. I was there when we lost in the finals of thr D2 championship. So my list to choose from is probably longer than yours. But I understand your point.

Favorite or best? Those DII teams were different. They were better coached and played a different brand of football. Don Zwisler anyone?