Ianello G-O-N-E!?

[akzipper]

Bring Eric Mangini to Akron!

crazy as thinking Tressel would coach here isn't it?

How about one of these guys?

Mike Stoops

Dave Wannstedt

Mike Leach

Someone who did win at a BCS school and got let go. Unless we bring in a well known coach we will see several more losing seasons...

Like all things in life, you have to spend money to get money. TW screwed up big time hiring Ianello, and he can't punish the fans by hiring another guy no one has ever heard of and paying them the Ianello salary. Go all in Dr.P!!! We want a winner and we deserve it!

[Dave in Green]

Everyone should also do a little research on Ianello's assistant coaching record before guessing what level of salary he'd be likely to pull down as an assistant at a major program if he were to leave his head coaching job at Akron.

The man has 21 years of experience as an assistant at Alabama, Wisconsin, Arizona and Notre Dame.

Regardless of what anyone here may think of his recruiting abilities, he's widely recognized by his peers as being darned good at it.

And his lack of success as a head coach will have no bearing on his value as an assistant doing what he has already proven he can do well.

A lot would depend on where he landed. At Oklahoma, for example, the lowest paid assistant makes more than $250k annually.

A realistic estimate of his value as an assistant at a major program would likely start in the $200k range.

[johnnyzip84]

I left here just after the game, thinking I could count on ZNO to "close the deal" and as of 9:30 pm EST there is still no confirmation that iCoach is finished taking this program to new depths???? I might just have to bitch slap jupitertoo all the more now because of this

[Captain Kangaroo]

I might just have to bitch slap jupitertoo all the more now because of this

Do it.

[Blue & Gold]

I might just have to bitch slap jupitertoo all the more now because of this

Do it.

Get in

.

[johnnyzip84]

I might just have to bitch slap jupitertoo all the more now because of this

Do it.

Get in

.

Great scene!

[ZippyRulz]

Here's another questions.

Lets say we find a way to get the board to approve his firing. And we eat the final 3 years of his contract.

How much will they approve to pay the new coach under those circumstances?

I think it puts a real damper on our hopes to get any "high profile" coach.

If he gets another job, which he will, we only pay the difference. He's not gonna sit on his ass for three years and collect a paycheck, otherwise he'll never get back in. We'll only end up eating a very small fraction of this contract.

small fraction?

With the last two years on his resume, who is going to pay him a large fraction of what he currently gets?

Last year at OSU, Luke Fickell made about $200k. I expect Ianello to end up getting paid somewhere between $100k and $150k as a BCS position coach. So in a best-case scenario we're on the hook for maybe 2/3rds of his salary.

You might consider a math refresher course.

Sounds to me like Zach is speculating that if RI is fired and gets a BCS asst. job he might make about 1/3 of his current salary there. 3/3 - 1/3 = 2/3 that we would still have to pay...I guess I need the same refresher course(?)

[ZippyRulz]

For what it's worth, on the WVU (v. Pitt) broadcast today, during the scores rundown at halftime, when they mentioned the WMU/Akron score they said that "RI would probably lose his job" (but no source was cited).

[tpsjugglerdude]

According to ESPN the Zips are ready to get rid of RI.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/features/ru...splay%3dcomment

[MrAkronSoftball]

According to ESPN the Zips are ready to get rid of RI.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/features/ru...splay%3dcomment

Can you copy and paste the story please.

[ZachTheZip]

How many of these other reports are just taking what was posted on footballscoop.com and using it as their source?

That ESPN one was posted several hours before the WMU game.

[Zipmeister]

Here's another questions.

Lets say we find a way to get the board to approve his firing. And we eat the final 3 years of his contract.

How much will they approve to pay the new coach under those circumstances?

I think it puts a real damper on our hopes to get any "high profile" coach.

If he gets another job, which he will, we only pay the difference. He's not gonna sit on his ass for three years and collect a paycheck, otherwise he'll never get back in. We'll only end up eating a very small fraction of this contract.

small fraction?

With the last two years on his resume, who is going to pay him a large fraction of what he currently gets?

Last year at OSU, Luke Fickell made about $200k. I expect Ianello to end up getting paid somewhere between $100k and $150k as a BCS position coach. So in a best-case scenario we're on the hook for maybe 2/3rds of his salary.

You might consider a math refresher course.

Sounds to me like Zach is speculating that if RI is fired and gets a BCS asst. job he might make about 1/3 of his current salary there. 3/3 - 1/3 = 2/3 that we would still have to pay...I guess I need the same refresher course(?)

The copy of the icoach contract on page 3 of this thread indicates his compensation is $381k + perks. Knowing this information, whoever hires him is likely to lowball him for at least three years. Even at $150K we will be on the hook for more than 2/3 of his remaining contractual compensation (but close enough that the difference isn't critical unless it is coming directly out of my pocket). I think it more likely that he will be drawing closer to $100K from his new employer.

[Captain Kangaroo]

According to ESPN the Zips are ready to get rid of RI.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/features/ru...splay%3dcomment

Can you copy and paste the story please.

It says the Zips are going to fire Ianello. It's because he was a terrible coach and lost over 90% of his games.

If there are other stories posted on other sites, they will say the same.

[ZipRoo]

Why are so many here so worried about dissecting Ianello's contract? Are you responsible for eating it? The man is a complete bust at his job, and you believe there's no way to be rid of him, short of wasting another 3 years? Get real.

Believe it or not, growing up in the '70s, we didn't know what players and coaches were paid, and we didn't care. All we knew were stats and stars. Then #$%& free-agency happened, and suddenly everyone wanted to be a team accountant and worry about how other people were spending their money. It has killed the fun of sports.

Let's let those who wrote and signed the contracts worry about how to terminate them. Seriously, is this part of the "fun" of sports for you now?....speculating about how much RI would make on his "next" job so that UA wouldn't have to pay so much? Again I ask, are YOU paying his salary? No? Then why does it matter to you? I just want him GONE, and don't care how much UA is left with to pay. They made the mistake, now they have to deal with it.

[Dave in Green]

The copy of the icoach contract on page 3 of this thread indicates his compensation is $381k + perks. Knowing this information, whoever hires him is likely to lowball him for at least three years. Even at $150K we will be on the hook for more than 2/3 of his remaining contractual compensation (but close enough that the difference isn't critical unless it is coming directly out of my pocket). I think it more likely that he will be drawing closer to $100K from his new employer.

Should he leave UA, it's debatable if another university would be able to hire Ianello as an assistant at a low-ball salary. If more than one school wants his services, his salary would likely be bid up to normal levels. He still has his 21-year reputation as a top recruiter at Alabama, Wisconsin, Arizona and Notre Dame. An experienced top recruiter might expect to earn an annual salary in the $150-250k range at a high-level program. As I mentioned previously, the lowest-paid assistant at Oklahoma makes $250k+.

A closer look at the contract's $381k compensation package plus variable supplemental compensation reveals that if Ianello were to leave UA, he would likely only be owed base pay for the remainder of the contract:

$300k base pay.

$50k for media work (voided by failure to do media work for UA after leaving UA).

$25k footwear, equipment & apparel contracts (voided by no longer publicly displaying sponsor products on the field at UA games after leaving UA).

$6k club membership (voided by no longer being eligible for local club membership as a UA representative after leaving UA).

All variable supplemental compensation (voided by no longer performing duties required to earn supplemental compensation).

Bottom line is that if he were to leave UA, he would likely be owed $300k for each of the remaining years of his contract. If he earned $200k from another school, which is not unreasonable, UA would only owe him $100k per year, or 1/3rd of his annual base salary.

[ZipRoo]

The copy of the icoach contract on page 3 of this thread indicates... A closer look at the contract's $381k compensation package plus variable supplemental compensation reveals....

Wow.

:C K_brew:

[K92]

Why are so many here so worried about dissecting Ianello's contract? Are you responsible for eating it? The man is a complete bust at his job, and you believe there's no way to be rid of him, short of wasting another 3 years? Get real.

Believe it or not, growing up in the '70s, we didn't know what players and coaches were paid, and we didn't care. All we knew were stats and stars. Then #$%& free-agency happened, and suddenly everyone wanted to be a team accountant and worry about how other people were spending their money. It has killed the fun of sports.

Let's let those who wrote and signed the contracts worry about how to terminate them. Seriously, is this part of the "fun" of sports for you now?....speculating about how much RI would make on his "next" job so that UA wouldn't have to pay so much? Again I ask, are YOU paying his salary? No? Then why does it matter to you? I just want him GONE, and don't care how much UA is left with to pay. They made the mistake, now they have to deal with it.

Bravo! Very well said.

[Dave in Green]

Should UA ever choose to eat any part of any coach's contract, it will have an economic impact on all Zips sports programs.

Personally, I'm concerned about understanding all the potential implications, and everything being discussed here is in the public domain.

Anyone who isn't interested in this can just skip right over it, as we all skip over some of the posts we consider to be irrelevant to our own personal interests.

[Doug Snyder]

The copy of the icoach contract on page 3 of this thread indicates his compensation is $381k + perks. Knowing this information, whoever hires him is likely to lowball him for at least three years. Even at $150K we will be on the hook for more than 2/3 of his remaining contractual compensation (but close enough that the difference isn't critical unless it is coming directly out of my pocket). I think it more likely that he will be drawing closer to $100K from his new employer.

Should he leave UA, it's debatable if another university would be able to hire Ianello as an assistant at a low-ball salary. If more than one school wants his services, his salary would likely be bid up to normal levels. He still has his 21-year reputation as a top recruiter at Alabama, Wisconsin, Arizona and Notre Dame. An experienced top recruiter might expect to earn an annual salary in the $150-250k range at a high-level program. As I mentioned previously, the lowest-paid assistant at Oklahoma makes $250k+.

A closer look at the contract's $381k compensation package plus variable supplemental compensation reveals that if Ianello were to leave UA, he would likely only be owed base pay for the remainder of the contract:

$300k base pay.

$50k for media work (voided by failure to do media work for UA after leaving UA).

$25k footwear, equipment & apparel contracts (voided by no longer publicly displaying sponsor products on the field at UA games after leaving UA).

$6k club membership (voided by no longer being eligible for local club membership as a UA representative after leaving UA).

All variable supplemental compensation (voided by no longer performing duties required to earn supplemental compensation).

Bottom line is that if he were to leave UA, he would likely be owed $300k for each of the remaining years of his contract. If he earned $200k from another school, which is not unreasonable, UA would only owe him $100k per year, or 1/3rd of his annual base salary.

You are forgetting payroll taxes and assistant coaches. Even if your assumptions are correct (I am a skeptical), the costs are much higher. This will be expensive.

[ZachTheZip]

Assistant coaches are generally kept on a single-year renewable contract. Coordinators may have multi-year contracts, but that's usually only at schools that can afford it.

We won't have to worry about paying the assistants. We just won't renew their contracts.

[jdurbin4]

I think anyone that watched his assistants knows that they all should be let go. Does anyone know anything about TW's contract ? How about getting someone in place that actually cares about the program. There have been a number of times I have ran into TW on campus and he is talking about other programs instead of our own.

[ZachTheZip]

Now would be a great time to announce firing a coach, while everyone else is all senselessly worked up over some other football game that had no implications for anything whatsoever.

[Buckzip]

If we don't have an announcement by Monday, it's not happening.

These things usually happen immediately after the season is over.

[bobbyake]

If we don't have an announcement by Monday, it's not happening.

These things usually happen immediately after the season is over.

The funeral for Ianello's mother is on Monday, I have no problem with waiting until Tuesday.

[GJGood]

If we don't have an announcement by Monday, it's not happening.

These things usually happen immediately after the season is over.

The funeral for Ianello's mother is on Monday, I have no problem with waiting until Tuesday.

Agreed, if a change is happening, no reason to announce the University is piling on Ianello in a time of personal grief. Let's be a little humane here.