Talking Tressel

[UAZip0510]

I still have a mild concern over whether he can operate the same program as he did at YSU without the threat of NCAA violations occuring here. And if he runs a 100% clean operation, will he necessarily be successful?We can't schedule Slippery Rock and Clarion to open every season like Tressel did back in his YSU heyday.

Great post JZ84. I'd just like to focus on this little bit.

We have learned in the past year that Tressel was a fake and fraud as it relates to his campaign to be the most honorable person in America. He can't afford to come to Akron and be exposed as a fake and fraud as a coach. He'll never take the chance.

Tressel won a boatload of games at OSU with three MAC schools per year and a cake Big Ten schedule. He routinely got his butt kicked against OOC BCS teams. There is no scheduling to hide behind at Akron. He can't take the risk of being exposed. One thing Tressel isn't is a risk taker and Akron is a huge risk for him.

I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron. There just isn't any evidence to show he can win without breaking NCAA rules. I don't want to risk him not being able to win without breaking rules at Akron. If he doesn't break rules and loses, we are screwed. If he breaks rules, wins and gets caught, we are screwed. If he doesn't break rules and wins, which there is no proof of, we win. We have a 2 in 3 chance of losing with this guy. No thanks.

People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts.

How ironic...

[K92]

There are a lot of Zips fans falling victim to the old "pie-in-the-sky" syndrome. I am as excited as the next guy about the opportunity to repair the terrible condition of the football program. But I gotta tell ya, a lot of the visions of grandeur just aren't going to happen no matter who is hired. I say this because the kind of metamorphosis has never happened in the history of CFB. I realize there is a first time for everything, but the odds are stacked so far against Akron ever attaining a sniff of the top 25 program I keep hearing rumors of.

I am happy we are rid of Ianello. I am excited to see what happens next. Landing Jim Tressel would make a huge splash and Akron would get immediate national exposure, but reality will set in very quickly as to the state of shambles the program is in. I hope for the best, but what I would like to see in the future is a program that can perform year in and year out like NIU has been performing the last couple of years. Anything more than that and the Zips would be living an absolute dream.

I hope for the absolute best outcome possible.

[bobbyake]

how many people here would buy season tickets if Tressel is hired?

Count me in for 3.

[Dave in Green]

Is it meaningful to Tressel to salvage his reputation. Yes.

Can he accept taking the hit to his lifetime win % that the first 2 seasons at UA would level? Probably.

Does he want to coach again? Probably.

Does he need big-time money? Probably not.

Is Hudson a nice place to live? Yes.

I could see him coming to UA.

Excellent summary. That's exactly the way I see it. The stars are aligning. Just need one last thing to cast the spell:

Eye of newt, and toe of frog,

Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,

Adder's fork, and blind-worm's sting,

Lizard's leg, and howlet's wing,--

For a charm of powerful trouble,

Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.

[K92]

how many people here would buy season tickets if Tressel is hired?

Count me in for 3.

I will buy season tickets if Tressel is hired. I will buy season tickets if he isn't hired. I was probably going to buy season tickets if Ianello was retained. I will not renew if Ianello is rehired.

[zen]

how many people here would buy season tickets if Tressel is hired?

Count me in for 3.

The phone system couldn't even handle all the calls after the announcement was made. Infocision could have it's phonelines contracted out to take the ticket orders, and they would be overrun

[RowdyZip]

Personally, I'd buy 4. And I'd get in for free next fall because I'll be taking classes. Without a doubt, it'd be the best thing ever to happen to UA football. Make it happen, Wisty.

[you am i]

If he is ever going to get back in college coaching, it will have to be at a non-BCS school and probably in Ohio.

It's not like he's got a whole lot of options. Plus, there's a nice redemption angle where he'd be coming back to where he got his first coaching job.

At first, this seemed unrealistic. Now, if they offer the job to him, I think he'll have to seriously consider it..

I think the guy is a heck of a coach.

[skip-zip]

I still have a mild concern over whether he can operate the same program as he did at YSU without the threat of NCAA violations occuring here. And if he runs a 100% clean operation, will he necessarily be successful?We can't schedule Slippery Rock and Clarion to open every season like Tressel did back in his YSU heyday.

Great post JZ84. I'd just like to focus on this little bit.

We have learned in the past year that Tressel was a fake and fraud as it relates to his campaign to be the most honorable person in America. He can't afford to come to Akron and be exposed as a fake and fraud as a coach. He'll never take the chance.

Tressel won a boatload of games at OSU with three MAC schools per year and a cake Big Ten schedule. He routinely got his butt kicked against OOC BCS teams. There is no scheduling to hide behind at Akron. He can't take the risk of being exposed. One thing Tressel isn't is a risk taker and Akron is a huge risk for him.

I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron. There just isn't any evidence to show he can win without breaking NCAA rules. I don't want to risk him not being able to win without breaking rules at Akron. If he doesn't break rules and loses, we are screwed. If he breaks rules, wins and gets caught, we are screwed. If he doesn't break rules and wins, which there is no proof of, we win. We have a 2 in 3 chance of losing with this guy. No thanks.

People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts.

This is a fair post. And the negatives don't end there.

We know Tressel won boatloads of games at OSWho by scheduling inferior competition in the OOC games, and got a handful of cupcake games on top of that from the bad teams in the weak Big 11 conference. Against Top-ranked teams, he failed miserably. Against the Top conference in the country, he failed miserably. However, many people think that OSWho has the best talent in the country, right?

So, I have to ask...how many inferior teams can we put on our schedule? Not many, since nearly every team in D-1A is better than us right now,

And...how can anyone make the assumption that good players want to play for Tressel, and not that they just simply wanted to play at OSWho? How many kids on Solich's roster at OU are anywhere near high level talent? Plus, the nicely-pressed sweater vest won't look the same to kids in different colors, especially with the recent massive hit to his credibility and honesty.

I just think there's some assumptions here that really need some further thought.

[RowdyZip]

What's fun is predicting the poster by viewing ZN on my phone. The way the browser interprets the site, I can see the post and not the poster. skip zip wins the award for most predictable.

[ZipRoo]

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

[akzipper]

I just have a hard time believing Tressel would come to Akron. It's almost a too good to be true scenario.

[Akron1]

Prediction: He is not going to coach, he is going to be our next AD.

[zen]

If he is ever going to get back in college coaching, it will have to be at a non-BCS school and probably in Ohio.

It's not like he's got a whole lot of options. Plus, there's a nice redemption angle where he'd be coming back to where he got his first coaching job.

At first, this seemed unrealistic. Now, if they offer the job to him, I think he'll have to seriously consider it..

I think the guy is a heck of a coach.

Thank you! Sounds like what I said days ago.

I would just add that he isn't going to have a hard time getting endorsement deals with NE Ohio auto dealers and ad agencies. Not that he needs those, but they supplement things rather nicely.

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

Greater Akron Area. I like the sound of that. After all, Akron is central to what used to be referred to the greater cleveland area, AKA northeast Ohio. Nay? Not on point, as I did not grow up in Akron and have no such chip on my shoulder. Still, geographically, it holds true as a population center of gravity sort of thing.

On point: the other intangible that Tressel brings is that sordid Cleveland media attention thing that we've been griping about for years. Even if at first it's only an afterthought type of report in the sports section of the paper or broadcast, but still every week you get an "oh yeah, and in Akron, Tressel..........."

[K92]

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

I just went back through this entire thread and there is not one hint of anyone suggesting Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Not one person said "don't hire Tressel". What on earth are you taking umbrage with?

[ZipRoo]

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

I just went back through this entire thread and there is not one hint of anyone suggesting Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Not one person said "don't hire Tressel". What on earth are you taking umbrage with?

Then you need to re-read....slowly this time.

[UAZip0510]

I still have a mild concern over whether he can operate the same program as he did at YSU without the threat of NCAA violations occuring here. And if he runs a 100% clean operation, will he necessarily be successful?We can't schedule Slippery Rock and Clarion to open every season like Tressel did back in his YSU heyday.

Great post JZ84. I'd just like to focus on this little bit.

We have learned in the past year that Tressel was a fake and fraud as it relates to his campaign to be the most honorable person in America. He can't afford to come to Akron and be exposed as a fake and fraud as a coach. He'll never take the chance.

Tressel won a boatload of games at OSU with three MAC schools per year and a cake Big Ten schedule. He routinely got his butt kicked against OOC BCS teams. There is no scheduling to hide behind at Akron. He can't take the risk of being exposed. One thing Tressel isn't is a risk taker and Akron is a huge risk for him.

I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron. There just isn't any evidence to show he can win without breaking NCAA rules. I don't want to risk him not being able to win without breaking rules at Akron. If he doesn't break rules and loses, we are screwed. If he breaks rules, wins and gets caught, we are screwed. If he doesn't break rules and wins, which there is no proof of, we win. We have a 2 in 3 chance of losing with this guy. No thanks.

People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts.

This is a fair post. And the negatives don't end there.

We know Tressel won boatloads of games at OSWho by scheduling inferior competition in the OOC games, and got a handful of cupcake games on top of that from the bad teams in the weak Big 11 conference. Against Top-ranked teams, he failed miserably. Against the Top conference in the country, he failed miserably. However, many people think that OSWho has the best talent in the country, right?

So, I have to ask...how many inferior teams can we put on our schedule? Not many, since nearly every team in D-1A is better than us right now,

And...how can anyone make the assumption that good players want to play for Tressel, and not that they just simply wanted to play at OSWho? How many kids on Solich's roster at OU are anywhere near high level talent? Plus, the nicely-pressed sweater vest won't look the same to kids in different colors, especially with the recent massive hit to his credibility and honesty.

I just think there's some assumptions here that really need some further thought.

First, lets look at his history against ranked teams:

2001 - Defeated #14 Northwestern, #11 Michigan...Lost to #14 UCLA, #12 Illinois, #14 South Carolina

2002 - Defeated #10 Washington State, #17 Penn State, #19 Minnesota, #12 Michigan, #1 Miami

2003 - Defeated #17 Washington, #9 Iowa, #24 NC State, #14 Michigan State, #11 Purdue, #8 Kansas State...Lost to #5 Michigan, #23 Wisconsin

2004 - Defeated #7 Michigan...Lost to #15 Wisconsin

2005 - Defeated #21 Iowa, #17 Michigan State, #22 Minnesota, #17 Michigan, #6 Notre Dame....Lost to #2 Texas, #18 Penn State

2006 - Defeated #2 Texas, #13 Iowa, #2 Michigan...Lost to #2 Florida

2007 - Defeated #20 Purdue, #25 Penn State, #19 Wisconsin, #23 Michigan...Lost to #2 LSU

2008 - Defeated #18 Wisconsin, #20 Michigan State...Lost to #1 USC, #3 Penn State, #3 Texas

2009 - Defeated #11 Penn State, #15 Iowa, #7 Oregon...Lost to #3 USC

2010 - Defeated #12 Miami, #21 Iowa, #8 Arkansas...Lost to #18 Wisconsin

By my count:

34-15 vs Top 25

10-8 vs non-Big Ten Top 25

1) A ranked team is a top team, regardless of what conference they play in, and I don't think 10-8 is "failing miserably".

2) Nobody outside of Columbus thinks Ohio State has or has ever had the best overall talent in the country, even in their best years.

3) If his biggest on-field issue is not being able to beat Top 3 SEC schools, I think we'll be OK.

[UAZip0510]

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

I just went back through this entire thread and there is not one hint of anyone suggesting Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Not one person said "don't hire Tressel". What on earth are you taking umbrage with?

Did you skip over GP1's posts?

[K92]

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

I just went back through this entire thread and there is not one hint of anyone suggesting Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Not one person said "don't hire Tressel". What on earth are you taking umbrage with?

Then you need to re-read....slowly this time.

Save me the trouble and quote it for me.

[K92]

The few naysayers here, I have one question for you: So you have already decided Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Then pray tell me who could? Exactly which inferior coach would YOU hire other than the great Jim Tressel? If you can't come up with a solid name, please stop posting your nonsense.

UA, you hire the best and expect results. Gerry Faust, Lee Owens and JD all had winning seasons here, and Jim Tressel can outcoach any of them in his sleep.

Beyond that, though, if you naysayers can't see the intangibles that Tressel brings to UA athletics and the school and community as a whole, then you're extremely shortsighted and I question whether you're a real Zip fan who wants the best for the Greater Akron area.

I just went back through this entire thread and there is not one hint of anyone suggesting Tressel couldn't win at Akron. Not one person said "don't hire Tressel". What on earth are you taking umbrage with?

Did you skip over GP1's posts?

No, I read the part that said "I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron".

[Dave in Green]

..... We know Tressel won boatloads of games at OSWho by scheduling inferior competition in the OOC games, and got a handful of cupcake games on top of that from the bad teams in the weak Big 11 conference. Against Top-ranked teams, he failed miserably. Against the Top conference in the country, he failed miserably. However, many people think that OSWho has the best talent in the country, right?

So, I have to ask...how many inferior teams can we put on our schedule? Not many, since nearly every team in D-1A is better than us right now,

And...how can anyone make the assumption that good players want to play for Tressel, and not that they just simply wanted to play at OSWho? How many kids on Solich's roster at OU are anywhere near high level talent? Plus, the nicely-pressed sweater vest won't look the same to kids in different colors, especially with the recent massive hit to his credibility and honesty.

I just think there's some assumptions here that really need some further thought.

I don't think it's true that tOSU had "the best talent in the country." Where did you see that? Everything I ever saw suggested that tOSU had some of the best talent outside of the sunbelt, and tOSU beat most of the teams it played from outside of the sunbelt. Most of the college recruiting reports I've seen in recent years suggested the top talent was going to sunbelt teams like Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC, etc. It's no surprise to me that these teams consistently beat tOSU when they played. They all had coaches as good or better than Tressel to go along with better players. Tough combination to beat.

Since it's not likely that UA is going to attract a coach from Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, USC or similar, it seems to me that the next best thing would be to get the next winningest coach outside of that group.

An opportunity like this doesn't come along very often for a school like UA. In fact, for most schools like UA, there is never an opportunity like this. If you want to kiss it off, then say goodbye forever to another similar opportunity in your lifetime.

[UAZip0510]

I still have a mild concern over whether he can operate the same program as he did at YSU without the threat of NCAA violations occuring here. And if he runs a 100% clean operation, will he necessarily be successful?We can't schedule Slippery Rock and Clarion to open every season like Tressel did back in his YSU heyday.

Great post JZ84. I'd just like to focus on this little bit.

We have learned in the past year that Tressel was a fake and fraud as it relates to his campaign to be the most honorable person in America. He can't afford to come to Akron and be exposed as a fake and fraud as a coach. He'll never take the chance.

Tressel won a boatload of games at OSU with three MAC schools per year and a cake Big Ten schedule. He routinely got his butt kicked against OOC BCS teams. There is no scheduling to hide behind at Akron. He can't take the risk of being exposed. One thing Tressel isn't is a risk taker and Akron is a huge risk for him.

I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron. There just isn't any evidence to show he can win without breaking NCAA rules. I don't want to risk him not being able to win without breaking rules at Akron. If he doesn't break rules and loses, we are screwed. If he breaks rules, wins and gets caught, we are screwed. If he doesn't break rules and wins, which there is no proof of, we win. We have a 2 in 3 chance of losing with this guy. No thanks.

People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts.

C'mon now Keener, let's be serious. Sure, he said the opposite in the previous sentence, but claiming a coach can't win without cheating is claiming a coach can't win.

[Zips Win!]

I still have a mild concern over whether he can operate the same program as he did at YSU without the threat of NCAA violations occuring here. And if he runs a 100% clean operation, will he necessarily be successful?We can't schedule Slippery Rock and Clarion to open every season like Tressel did back in his YSU heyday.

Great post JZ84. I'd just like to focus on this little bit.

We have learned in the past year that Tressel was a fake and fraud as it relates to his campaign to be the most honorable person in America. He can't afford to come to Akron and be exposed as a fake and fraud as a coach. He'll never take the chance.

Tressel won a boatload of games at OSU with three MAC schools per year and a cake Big Ten schedule. He routinely got his butt kicked against OOC BCS teams. There is no scheduling to hide behind at Akron. He can't take the risk of being exposed. One thing Tressel isn't is a risk taker and Akron is a huge risk for him.

I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron. There just isn't any evidence to show he can win without breaking NCAA rules. I don't want to risk him not being able to win without breaking rules at Akron. If he doesn't break rules and loses, we are screwed. If he breaks rules, wins and gets caught, we are screwed. If he doesn't break rules and wins, which there is no proof of, we win. We have a 2 in 3 chance of losing with this guy. No thanks.

People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts.

This is a fair post. And the negatives don't end there.

We know Tressel won boatloads of games at OSWho by scheduling inferior competition in the OOC games, and got a handful of cupcake games on top of that from the bad teams in the weak Big 11 conference. Against Top-ranked teams, he failed miserably. Against the Top conference in the country, he failed miserably. However, many people think that OSWho has the best talent in the country, right?

So, I have to ask...how many inferior teams can we put on our schedule? Not many, since nearly every team in D-1A is better than us right now,

And...how can anyone make the assumption that good players want to play for Tressel, and not that they just simply wanted to play at OSWho? How many kids on Solich's roster at OU are anywhere near high level talent? Plus, the nicely-pressed sweater vest won't look the same to kids in different colors, especially with the recent massive hit to his credibility and honesty.

I just think there's some assumptions here that really need some further thought.

First, lets look at his history against ranked teams:

2001 - Defeated #14 Northwestern, #11 Michigan...Lost to #14 UCLA, #12 Illinois, #14 South Carolina

2002 - Defeated #10 Washington State, #17 Penn State, #19 Minnesota, #12 Michigan, #1 Miami

2003 - Defeated #17 Washington, #9 Iowa, #24 NC State, #14 Michigan State, #11 Purdue, #8 Kansas State...Lost to #5 Michigan, #23 Wisconsin

2004 - Defeated #7 Michigan...Lost to #15 Wisconsin

2005 - Defeated #21 Iowa, #17 Michigan State, #22 Minnesota, #17 Michigan, #6 Notre Dame....Lost to #2 Texas, #18 Penn State

2006 - Defeated #2 Texas, #13 Iowa, #2 Michigan...Lost to #2 Florida

2007 - Defeated #20 Purdue, #25 Penn State, #19 Wisconsin, #23 Michigan...Lost to #2 LSU

2008 - Defeated #18 Wisconsin, #20 Michigan State...Lost to #1 USC, #3 Penn State, #3 Texas

2009 - Defeated #11 Penn State, #15 Iowa, #7 Oregon...Lost to #3 USC

2010 - Defeated #12 Miami, #21 Iowa, #8 Arkansas...Lost to #18 Wisconsin

By my count:

34-15 vs Top 25

10-8 vs non-Big Ten Top 25

1) A ranked team is a top team, regardless of what conference they play in, and I don't think 10-8 is "failing miserably".

2) Nobody outside of Columbus thinks Ohio State has or has ever had the best overall talent in the country, even in their best years.

3) If his biggest on-field issue is not being able to beat Top 3 SEC schools, I think we'll be OK.

Great! I knew some buckeye honk would post the tosu wins over second tier BCS schools and big ten schools ranked #15-25. THese schools were only ranked this high because they beat up on the MAC and started 4-0 or 5-1.

This was a great thread until DFG had to post yet another meaningless thread just to clog up ZNO. Get a job, go volunteer or start your own Zips board. Just stop posting.

[UAZip0510]

Sometimes, Zips Nation, you amaze me. There is a coach with the following resume available:

- Career coaching record of 364-136-4

- 4 NCAA 1-AA National Championships

- 1 NCAA 1-A National Championship

- 3 NCAA 1-A National Championship Appearances

- University of Akron graduate (Masters in Education)

- Known as a great coach and recruiter

- Knows Northeast Ohio well

And some of you basically respond with "Ehhhhhh...I don't know"

I know some of you hate Ohio State. I also know that some of you hate Jim Tressel. I can respect that you hold those opinions. What I can't understand is how anyone would be against this hire. As GP1 ironically said...think with your heads, not your hearts.

[UAZip0510]

I still have a mild concern over whether he can operate the same program as he did at YSU without the threat of NCAA violations occuring here. And if he runs a 100% clean operation, will he necessarily be successful?We can't schedule Slippery Rock and Clarion to open every season like Tressel did back in his YSU heyday.

Great post JZ84. I'd just like to focus on this little bit.

We have learned in the past year that Tressel was a fake and fraud as it relates to his campaign to be the most honorable person in America. He can't afford to come to Akron and be exposed as a fake and fraud as a coach. He'll never take the chance.

Tressel won a boatload of games at OSU with three MAC schools per year and a cake Big Ten schedule. He routinely got his butt kicked against OOC BCS teams. There is no scheduling to hide behind at Akron. He can't take the risk of being exposed. One thing Tressel isn't is a risk taker and Akron is a huge risk for him.

I've never said that Tressel couldn't win at Akron. There just isn't any evidence to show he can win without breaking NCAA rules. I don't want to risk him not being able to win without breaking rules at Akron. If he doesn't break rules and loses, we are screwed. If he breaks rules, wins and gets caught, we are screwed. If he doesn't break rules and wins, which there is no proof of, we win. We have a 2 in 3 chance of losing with this guy. No thanks.

People need to think with their heads and not with their hearts.

This is a fair post. And the negatives don't end there.

We know Tressel won boatloads of games at OSWho by scheduling inferior competition in the OOC games, and got a handful of cupcake games on top of that from the bad teams in the weak Big 11 conference. Against Top-ranked teams, he failed miserably. Against the Top conference in the country, he failed miserably. However, many people think that OSWho has the best talent in the country, right?

So, I have to ask...how many inferior teams can we put on our schedule? Not many, since nearly every team in D-1A is better than us right now,

And...how can anyone make the assumption that good players want to play for Tressel, and not that they just simply wanted to play at OSWho? How many kids on Solich's roster at OU are anywhere near high level talent? Plus, the nicely-pressed sweater vest won't look the same to kids in different colors, especially with the recent massive hit to his credibility and honesty.

I just think there's some assumptions here that really need some further thought.

First, lets look at his history against ranked teams:

2001 - Defeated #14 Northwestern, #11 Michigan...Lost to #14 UCLA, #12 Illinois, #14 South Carolina

2002 - Defeated #10 Washington State, #17 Penn State, #19 Minnesota, #12 Michigan, #1 Miami

2003 - Defeated #17 Washington, #9 Iowa, #24 NC State, #14 Michigan State, #11 Purdue, #8 Kansas State...Lost to #5 Michigan, #23 Wisconsin

2004 - Defeated #7 Michigan...Lost to #15 Wisconsin

2005 - Defeated #21 Iowa, #17 Michigan State, #22 Minnesota, #17 Michigan, #6 Notre Dame....Lost to #2 Texas, #18 Penn State

2006 - Defeated #2 Texas, #13 Iowa, #2 Michigan...Lost to #2 Florida

2007 - Defeated #20 Purdue, #25 Penn State, #19 Wisconsin, #23 Michigan...Lost to #2 LSU

2008 - Defeated #18 Wisconsin, #20 Michigan State...Lost to #1 USC, #3 Penn State, #3 Texas

2009 - Defeated #11 Penn State, #15 Iowa, #7 Oregon...Lost to #3 USC

2010 - Defeated #12 Miami, #21 Iowa, #8 Arkansas...Lost to #18 Wisconsin

By my count:

34-15 vs Top 25

10-8 vs non-Big Ten Top 25

1) A ranked team is a top team, regardless of what conference they play in, and I don't think 10-8 is "failing miserably".

2) Nobody outside of Columbus thinks Ohio State has or has ever had the best overall talent in the country, even in their best years.

3) If his biggest on-field issue is not being able to beat Top 3 SEC schools, I think we'll be OK.

Great! I knew some buckeye honk would post the tosu wins over second tier BCS schools and big ten schools ranked #15-25. THese schools were only ranked this high because they beat up on the MAC and started 4-0 or 5-1.

This was a great thread until DFG had to post yet another meaningless thread just to clog up ZNO. Get a job, go volunteer or start your own Zips board. Just stop posting.

Gotta love it...I post those pesky "facts" and get called a "Buckeye Honk" in response...classic! I'm out for the night folks...I can't take this level of ignorance.

LET'S GO ZIPS SOCCER!