GeorgeThomasABJ Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 http://www.ohio.com/blogs/ua-zips/universi...of-day-1.293754 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Thanks for the update. I like this part best: Of the quarterbacks, Kyle Pohl masterminded the best drive of the day – cool methodical and it culminated in a touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Thanks for the update. I like this part best: Of the quarterbacks, Kyle Pohl masterminded the best drive of the day – cool methodical and it culminated in a touchdown. I liked that as well. I think the following is equally encouraging (of course, it comes with a qualifier): If the Zips get their linebacking situation together, they could be vastly improved over last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 Thanks for the update. I like this part best: Of the quarterbacks, Kyle Pohl masterminded the best drive of the day – cool methodical and it culminated in a touchdown. I haven't been following the QB breakdown very closely, but is there any chance Pohl is starting in the fall? or still a 3rd string option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I'm a little surprised we haven't heard anything about Tyler Williams. I though TB woulf know how to utilize his talent more and make him more of an impact player. Nothing yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I haven't been following the QB breakdown very closely, but is there any chance Pohl is starting in the fall? or still a 3rd string option? I've seen LR8. I'll put my money on Pohl or Williams, even though I've never seen them throw a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 10, 2012 Report Share Posted April 10, 2012 I like this part best: Of the quarterbacks, Kyle Pohl masterminded the best drive of the day – cool methodical and it culminated in a touchdown. I would like to make a recommendation to Mr. Thomas. Please let us know who the players are playing against when they do the things they do. It is an important part of the evaluation process in spring practice. I'm impressed if Pohl drives the field against the first or second team defenses. I'm not impressed if he does it against the #3s. I'd also like to know what type of plays were called on goal line. Ration of run:pass. If Moore goes 1-4 scoring and doesnt' throw a pass, it doesn't matter who the QB was. If they score on all for with no passes, it doesn't matter who the QB was. I would also like to ask Mr. Thomas to talk to TB about his thoughts on the red zone offense. Red zone execution is key to winning football games. How are we doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I've seen LR8. I'll put my money on Pohl or Williams, even though I've never seen them throw a pass. Of course because your guy couldn't even get on the field and quit. CK your love for PN7 was beyond odd last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 If Moore, Pohl, and Williams are all equal at the end of camp, I would want to see Pohl get the starting job because the potential for him to grow and learn from game experience is higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 If Moore, Pohl, and Williams are all equal at the end of camp, I would want to see Pohl get the starting job because the potential for him to grow and learn from game experience is higher. On the flipside maybe his inexperience could cost us?...but really don't think that's he less experienced than the other two, just younger and the only one not to see time in an actual college game. Not sure how much of a difference that would make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I would like to make a recommendation to Mr. Thomas. Please let us know who the players are playing against when they do the things they do. It is an important part of the evaluation process in spring practice. I'm impressed if Pohl drives the field against the first or second team defenses. I'm not impressed if he does it against the #3s. I'd also like to know what type of plays were called on goal line. Ration of run:pass. If Moore goes 1-4 scoring and doesnt' throw a pass, it doesn't matter who the QB was. If they score on all for with no passes, it doesn't matter who the QB was. I would also like to ask Mr. Thomas to talk to TB about his thoughts on the red zone offense. Red zone execution is key to winning football games. How are we doing? Good points GP1. Points that I'm guessing a lot on here don't take into consideration. Seems a few are against Clayton Moore (I think he fits the system well). Regardless, I want the best QB out there. No reason to be against a guy who you have never seen play in the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Of course because your guy couldn't even get on the field and quit. CK your love for PN7 was beyond odd last year. Nicely was/is better than Moore. It wasn't love, it was truth. If Ianello was intelligent, your assumption that, since PN7 didn't see the field he must suck, would be valid. But Ianello was an absolute idiot who made so many asinine decisions on Saturday's even Terry Pluto couldn't find anything nice to write about him. Ianello wanted to follow his process, not win games. Ianello's favorite Moore was given an obscene amount of opportunities to do anything last season, and he showed nothing. Why did Nicely leave? I doubt Bowden was too excited to keep a senior QB who was only slightly better than the Freshman Pohl. And with two highly-touted incoming Freshman QB's without scholarships, and Bowden "recruiting harder than I did in February" to find 5th year senior transfers and JUCO players, some attrition at the QB spot, enabling players to be signed at positions of greater need, was definitely not unwelcome by the staff. I also doubt Nicely was all that keen on staying in Akron to play for a 3rd coach in 4 seasons. He had options to play elsewhere. It isn't quitting. Sometimes a divorce is the best for everyone. That's your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Why did Nicely leave? I also doubt Nicely was all that keen on staying in Akron to play for a 3rd coach in 4 seasons. He had options to play elsewhere. Nicely left because he was getting beat out. If he was higher on the depth chart or even #1, he would have never left. Because he didn't want to play for a 3rd coach in 4 seasons? Doesn't relocating do the same thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Nicely left because he was getting beat out. If he was higher on the depth chart or even #1, he would have never left. Because he didn't want to play for a 3rd coach in 4 seasons? Doesn't relocating do the same thing? No. If he goes to Fordham, he will be playing for the QB coach that originally recruited him. You also ignored about 93% of my post where I further explained the situation. Saving you the reading - The Zips have bigger needs than a mediocre senior QB. By showing the mediocre QB the door, they can get a 5th year senior linebacker or JUCO offensive lineman that will fill a much bigger need. And to be clear - While BigZip said I "loved" Nicely, those were his words. I never said anything else other than Moore was horrible, and Nicely was the better QB. Nicely was no threat to be even 3rd team All-MAC, but he was better than Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 After watching this game in 2009, I thought PN7 had potential. Unfortunately for us, it never got much better. Why? Lack of coaching? Too much change (coach/system)? I don't know, but I saw a young QB with a lot of potential that day. I saw nothing last year that indicated any stability at the QB position. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I thought Nicely looked good at BG as well, even though the Zips lost. At that point I thought the future looked bright for the QB situation. I had heard the knock on Nicely with the RI staff was his lack of leadership and that by the end of 2010, PN7 had lost the team's support. I don't know how true that is, but it did seem like the offense put out a better effort with LR8 at the controls, at least through the CMU game. Like I say, I don't know any more about the "bad attitude" than what I learned in a one time conversation with the father of a player during halftime of the Ohio game. I always wondered, if true, if the alleged attitude problem coincided with the Ianello regime coming in. At any rate, it is a shame to see a kid never reach his potential, even though it happens a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 No. If he goes to Fordham, he will be playing for the QB coach that originally recruited him. You also ignored about 93% of my post where I further explained the situation. Saving you the reading - The Zips have bigger needs than a mediocre senior QB. By showing the mediocre QB the door, they can get a 5th year senior linebacker or JUCO offensive lineman that will fill a much bigger need. And to be clear - While BigZip said I "loved" Nicely, those were his words. I never said anything else other than Moore was horrible, and Nicely was the better QB. Nicely was no threat to be even 3rd team All-MAC, but he was better than Moore. I read the whole thing. Just answering the question. If he doesn't go to Fordham, he is in the same situation he was in at Akron. There are other QBs they could have shown the door. The first one out is the first one beat out. If he didn't get beat out by the others and was a casualty of the numbers game game, TB could have had that conversation with him long before spring football started. I'm not a fan of either Moore or Nicely, but I trust the coaching staff to make talent decisions as it relates to the offense they will be running. Moore won the tallest midget contest over Nicely. I guess a congratulatory single clap is in order...clap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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