Wally B Posted November 13, 2012 Report Posted November 13, 2012 Why can't Akron win consistently in the MAC? First of all lets please stop fretting about what is going on at K.E.N.T. I actually saw a post on here where someone was hoping Hazell would leave there and go to a bigger program so they would get bad again. If thats what we are hanging our hats on to be competetive with them, wow! If we go back to the only period of time since Akron went to DI where the team was 'winning consistently' maybe we can see something. That period was '03(7-5),'04(6-5),'05(7-6).Spanned the careers of 2 coaches,Owens and Brookhart. Many of the players were recruited by Owens. Brookhart added a few key pieces. Owens got fired after a 7-5 season. Brookhart got fired after a 3-9 season in '09. That as we all know was the first year of Infocision. Expectations were way too high. Brookhart had a couple of 'near miss, seasons,'06 and '08. A'break' here or there maybe he is at least .500 The point? Those teams from '03 to '06 had some pretty good TALENT. Some guys are still playing in the NFL. Owens recruited pretty well. How did he do it? JD took some chances on guys who were very marginal students but had some talent. He recruited some guys who had personal issues. It cost him. Could he have gotten it turned around? Who knows. Front office changes probably assured changes would be made on the field. Coaches have to RECRUIT MAC/DI level talent consistently to create a steady stream into the program. I am convinced that at the MAC level you have to be a good recruiter first to convince kids to come. The 'build it and they will come' fantasy is just that at the MAC level. There are no better facilities in the MAC than at Akron. Is TB a good recruiter? With all respect,he seems like someone who could sell ice cubes to eskimos. So yep it looks like it. Is he a good game day coach? Seems like he has made some progress on the offensive side of the ball(I'm still not convinced about the D side). The front office needs to get out of his way at this point. Fans need to look for a slow build over the next 2-3 years. This is the best shot this program has had since '03. Will it work out? Lets stay tuned. well said Lee! I would add that Owens recruiting success occured in the bowl! With out cross checking my facts, I would also surmise that this was about the point that the administration started investing in the program as well. However short sighted it may have proven to be, firing him after a dissapointing 7-5 season, they were involved again. Proenza has certainly carried that torch. Again, mistakes or whatever we want to call them, they have nothing to do with our current ability to move forward. Afterall, hardly anyone noticed when Faust left. Atleast now people care. I still see far more posters on here than I do on the Can't site for a ranked team. Quote
Lee Adams Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 well said Lee! I would add that Owens recruiting success occured in the bowl! With out cross checking my facts, I would also surmise that this was about the point that the administration started investing in the program as well. However short sighted it may have proven to be, firing him after a dissapointing 7-5 season, they were involved again. Proenza has certainly carried that torch. Again, mistakes or whatever we want to call them, they have nothing to do with our current ability to move forward. Afterall, hardly anyone noticed when Faust left. Atleast now people care. I still see far more posters on here than I do on the Can't site for a ranked team. I am not going to repeat my previous post. I will say that this is the best,maybe the last best chance the Akron football program has to be successful at the current level. But,it will take at least 3 seasons to get competetive w/the best MAC teams. If by 2014 we don't see 5 wins and by 2015 we don't see north of .500,then as a famous actor said.'you got sum splainin to do'. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 While I am at it, I am officially a Steelers fan as well. I am tired of losing...You are a jinx! You were a Steelers fan for six hours before we lost our franchise QB. Quote
GP1 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 You are a jinx! You were a Steelers fan for six hours before we lost our franchise QB. Agreed. Besides, there's not cutting in line. There are thousands of Browns fans ahead of ZipsWin!. Quote
Zips Win! Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 Agreed. Besides, there's not cutting in line. There are thousands of Browns fans ahead of ZipsWin!. Sorry guys...When I saw the Ben injury I figured I would get the business. He's probably the toughest guy in the league so I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back earlier than expected. Quote
GP1 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Posted November 15, 2012 Sorry guys...When I saw the Ben injury I figured I would get the business. He's probably the toughest guy in the league so I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back earlier than expected. The jinx you brought on the Steelers is worse than the one you bring on the Zips when they play at OU..... Quote
LZIp Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 nice game going on against BGSU on ABC if anyone wants to watch. Quote
Blue & Gold Posted November 17, 2012 Author Report Posted November 17, 2012 nice game going on against BGSU on ABC if anyone wants to watch. Watching. It is an excellent game. These teams are doing the MAC proud. Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 Watching. It is an excellent game. These teams are doing the MAC proud. No doubt. It's hard to believe that Archer actually played against us as a WR the last time we beat them in 2009 under JD. Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 K.E.N.T. vs. NIU for it all. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 Didn't NewZipFan predict Ken+ winning 9 in a row? Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 Didn't NewZipFan predict Ken+ winning 9 in a row? .....crickets........ Quote
Class of 82 Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 Huge, impressive win for K.e.n.t today. I think NIU should beat the Flushes, but that will be a fun game to watch. Congratulations, Flashers, but don't get too cocky. Enjoy this while you can, 'cause our day is coming soon. Quote
MaxZIP Posted November 17, 2012 Report Posted November 17, 2012 Huge, impressive win for K.e.n.t today. I think NIU should beat the Flushes, but that will be a fun game to watch. Congratulations, Flashers, but don't get too cocky. Enjoy this while you can, 'cause our day is coming soon. BS Quote
lance99 Posted November 18, 2012 Report Posted November 18, 2012 Huge, impressive win for K.e.n.t today. I think NIU should beat the Flushes, but that will be a fun game to watch. Congratulations, Flashers, but don't get too cocky. Enjoy this while you can, 'cause our day is coming soon. This is what I think about Can't State winning the MAC East...... Quote
LZIp Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 How does Can't State get players like Dri Archer? man.. Very impressive what Hazell has done with that team in 2 years. Quote
Dr Z Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 How does Can't State get players like Dri Archer? man..The same way Akron gets players. Quote
LZIp Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 The same way Akron gets players. We dont have anybody close to as good as him. Not a good attempt at being a smart*** Quote
ZachTheZip Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 We dont have anybody close to as good as him. Not a good attempt at being a smart*** Dri Archer was an unheralded 2-star recruit out of Florida. Can't was his only offer. They got lucky and found a diamond in the rough. This wasn't some feat of outrecruiting BCS schools for top talent. Quote
GP1 Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 We've had players like archer in the past and will get them again. Brett Biggs comes to mind. Quote
akzipper Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 I never like to root for Can't, but that butt kicking of OhioU was AWESOME. Where are the BCS! BCS! BCS! OhioU fans now? Quote
LZIp Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 I never like to root for Can't, but that butt kicking of OhioU was AWESOME. Where are the BCS! BCS! BCS! OhioU fans now? "Boise of the Midwest" lol Quote
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