ZachTheZip Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 On the future of Zips Basketball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I like the link provided to the Pittsburgh paper. Nice article. Interesting McKeesport coach Corey Gadson followed Marshall's career closely. Gadson said there were times Marshall came back to work out with Tigers, sharing his experiences about college life and the college game. Gadson has noted the improvement in Marshall's strength and conditioning since arriving at Akron — and he also has seen him develop a much stronger love for the game. “He's just shown tremendous growth from a kid into a man,” Gadson said. “He's really matured as an individual; I'm just so proud of what he's done. Marshall intends on finishing up an associate's degree this spring, and he has plans on eventually earning a bachelor's in the coming years. His immediate future, though, involves preparing for the NBA Draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I like the link provided to the Pittsburgh paper. Nice article. Interesting Ah yes, the seldom achieved four-year assoc. degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Ah yes, the seldom achieved four-year assoc. degree. That one got me too. Obviously, if his academics were only up to an associates degree after four years he would have been sitting and not playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Seems like it was about the past season, not really the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrdie Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 That one got me too. Obviously, if his academics were only up to an associates degree after four years he would have been sitting and not playing. I am trying to figure out how you can only have an associate degree after 4 years of school? The NCAA makes sure you are taking a full load of classes or you cannot play. So what is the deal? My understanding was his degree was in Computer Science and he had a very good GPA confused I work with PSEOP at a high school and you have to take 13 semester credit hours in order to play high school sports. I believe it is the same at the college level, 13 semester hours per semester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I am trying to figure out how you can only have an associate degree after 4 years of school? The NCAA makes sure you are taking a full load of classes or you cannot play. So what is the deal? My understanding was his degree was in Computer Science and he had a very good GPA confused I work with PSEOP at a high school and you have to take 13 semester credit hours in order to play high school sports. I believe it is the same at the college level, 13 semester hours per semester. His degree is not in Computer Science (which focuses primarily on programming and is offered by most schools), but in Computer Information Systems (network engineering, and not offered by most schools). You can take a full credit load every semester and only get an associates degree because most of the classes you take go toward certifications but don't necessarily count toward your degree. In the IT field, certs are much more important than a degree, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 His degree is not in Computer Science (which focuses primarily on programming and is offered by most schools), but in Computer Information Systems (network engineering, and not offered by most schools). You can take a full credit load every semester and only get an associates degree because most of the classes you take go toward certifications but don't necessarily count toward your degree. In the IT field, certs are much more important than a degree, anyway. So he went to college for four years full time and ends up with a two year degree? I hear you about the certifications, but I can tell you that for the good computer jobs in NY State Government the four year degree counts for a lot. As in everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Kind of baffled by the 4 year associates portion as well. Maybe its a typo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Wikipedia has a brief description of Bachelor of Computer Information Systems, including the following: Generally the course of instruction will last for 3 years, however most institutions will leave the candidate with the choice of taking a year in industry between the second and third years. This then means that the student would take 4 years to complete the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wikipedia has a brief description of Bachelor of Computer Information Systems, including the following: Zeke is in a few of my classes. They offer the 2 year associates, at which point you can continue for another 2 years for the bachelor degree. Needless to say the department is effed in the head and only offer certain classes during certain semesters and at the most inopportune times, so you have to pray you can fit all the classes in you need to take, or take it slower than they want you to (the way I went). My guess is that he wasnt able to take all the classes he needed to get through in the "2 year" time frame, so he's behind like everyone else in this major haha. That and he may have did what I did and started as a Computer Science major before switching to CIS... in which case no credits transferred (unless they were all gen-eds) and you basically lose an entire year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Zeke is in a few of my classes. They offer the 2 year associates, at which point you can continue for another 2 years for the bachelor degree. Needless to say the department is effed in the head and only offer certain classes during certain semesters and at the most inopportune times, so you have to pray you can fit all the classes in you need to take, or take it slower than they want you to (the way I went). My guess is that he wasnt able to take all the classes he needed to get through in the "2 year" time frame, so he's behind like everyone else in this major haha. That and he may have did what I did and started as a Computer Science major before switching to CIS... in which case no credits transferred (unless they were all gen-eds) and you basically lose an entire year. Sounds like Zeke, yourself, and I are all in the same boat. Start out in CS, switch to CIS and lose some credits, and then take the slow route to a degree because they only offer certain classes once every few semesters and the ones they do offer are all at ridiculous times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrdie Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Sounds like Zeke, yourself, and I are all in the same boat. Start out in CS, switch to CIS and lose some credits, and then take the slow route to a degree because they only offer certain classes once every few semesters and the ones they do offer are all at ridiculous times. This is good to know. One of my students will start U of Akron this fall and going into CIS, I believe. I am wondering if I need to talk to him before he graduates in June about all of this. He is from a small rual town and not that worldly about asking questions and pushing for answers. Those of you in this field tell me more. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hey, you guys, my computer's running slow. Could one of you ..... Just kidding. Slightly OT story. I've been a computer hot-rodder with no formal training for more than 25 years. I was working for a major corporation that had its own computer support department. Everyone in our department hated the service they got from the IT professionals, so they used to come to me for help. One guy in our department had years of engineering data on his computer, which he never backed up. His computer crashed and nothing would make it boot. The IT pros looked it over, said there was nothing they could do to retrieve his data, and that they were going to have to reformat his hard drive. He came over to me with wide eyes screaming HELP! I told the IT guy to give me a couple of hours. Ended up using DOS commands to rebuild the master boot record. His computer came back to life, and he was able to back up all his engineering data before letting the IT pros reformat and rebuild his hard drive. Hope the IT pros are getting better training at UA than our corporate IT guys had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 At my courthouse we had a "computer guy" who was paid two lines higher than me. When a (Dell) computer would go down, he would ask me to help get it running. If I was not available it was format the hard drive and too bad. He was unable to do anything to actually fix computers. All he did was build hard drives and install software. Often, new software would crash the computers and then I would fix them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 At my courthouse we had a "computer guy" who was paid two lines higher than me. When a (Dell) computer would go down, he would ask me to help get it running. If I was not available it was format the hard drive and too bad. He was unable to do anything to actually fix computers. All he did was build hard drives and install software. Often, new software would crash the computers and then I would fix them. I strongly dislike those people. Give our job such a bad rep. There are a lot of us out there who actually know what we're doing. And not getting paid nearly enough as we should for the work we do. in a related topic, this made me laugh when a coworker sent it to me lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Kind of baffled by the 4 year associates portion as well. Maybe its a typo? It's been decades since I was in school, but I was wondering if the math is still the same. If you are a full time student (12 credit hours), you would have about 96 hours at the end of 4 years. That would be 32 short of the 128 I needed to get a Bachelor's Degree at the time. But, you were still a "full time" student, still eligible to play athletics, and still could have received an Associates Degree along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hey, you guys, my computer's running slow. Could one of you ..... Just kidding. Slightly OT story. I've been a computer hot-rodder with no formal training for more than 25 years. I was working for a major corporation that had its own computer support department. Everyone in our department hated the service they got from the IT professionals, so they used to come to me for help. One guy in our department had years of engineering data on his computer, which he never backed up. His computer crashed and nothing would make it boot. The IT pros looked it over, said there was nothing they could do to retrieve his data, and that they were going to have to reformat his hard drive. He came over to me with wide eyes screaming HELP! I told the IT guy to give me a couple of hours. Ended up using DOS commands to rebuild the master boot record. His computer came back to life, and he was able to back up all his engineering data before letting the IT pros reformat and rebuild his hard drive. Hope the IT pros are getting better training at UA than our corporate IT guys had. Were you in your pajamas when you fixed that computer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Hey, you guys, my computer's running slow. Could one of you ..... Just kidding. Slightly OT story. I've been a computer hot-rodder with no formal training for more than 25 years. I was working for a major corporation that had its own computer support department. Everyone in our department hated the service they got from the IT professionals, so they used to come to me for help. One guy in our department had years of engineering data on his computer, which he never backed up. His computer crashed and nothing would make it boot. The IT pros looked it over, said there was nothing they could do to retrieve his data, and that they were going to have to reformat his hard drive. He came over to me with wide eyes screaming HELP! I told the IT guy to give me a couple of hours. Ended up using DOS commands to rebuild the master boot record. His computer came back to life, and he was able to back up all his engineering data before letting the IT pros reformat and rebuild his hard drive. Hope the IT pros are getting better training at UA than our corporate IT guys had. Sounds like the engine brake was locked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Were you in your pajamas when you fixed that computer? Unfortunately, Hugh Hefner wasn't the CEO of the corporation where I was working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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