****Indiana Hoosiers****

[Z.I.P.]

a win is a win.....

Indiana was super aggressive...

would love to have tommy thompson kid on the zips side

bring on the golden eagles

WOW!!!! You mean the Yeagley Dynasty is OVER -- after just one year??? Now let's bring on the, uh... Second star? Well, at least the quarterfinals (for now)!

[Z.I.P.]

Meanwhile, in other games across the nation...Denver and Louisville appear headed to penalty kicks. Good luck (or not?) to Coach Ken.

[Dave in Green]

I didn't get to see the second half, but in the first half it appeared that the Hoosiers were aggressive, athletic and skilled on offense. It seems to me that Indiana puts more focus on offense than defense. Fortunately the Zips offense took advantage of their scoring opportunities and played just enough better defense to get the 3-2 win.

[mes102]

Just watched the PKs of the Providence-Penn match, and the Providence GK saved 3 of 4 pks to win 3-1...He also pulled a Diego Restrepo if anyone knows what i mean...Penn students behind the goal were going crazy...thank goodness there was a net across the back of the goal area in front of the students, or there would of been a player-fans brawl...never seen Ivy League kids that mad before

[mes102]

Another road team wins on PKs in George Mason 4-2...

[fknbuflobo]

Hoosiers were better on offense. Zips were better on everything else.

Zips are lucky to advance. There was a 25 minute stretch in the 2nd half where Hoosiers dominated play.

Tommy Thompson was the best player on the pitch. I will be surprised if the San Jose Homegrown has a Junior year, maybe not even a Sophomore year.

[MDZip]

I didn't get the stream to work until about 30 minutes left in the game. If I was judging only on that I would have thought Indiana to be the far superior team. Zips had way too many unforced errors and errant passes at the end of the game. They are going to need to pick that up to beat Marquette. Good news though - B1G regular season AND tournament champs.

[Crew8]

Zips looked exhausted in the final 25 minutes while Indiana controlled the game. Great to see the boys fight it off until the end. Could of easily been 4-2 too. The one goal in the first half crossed the line. I had a great view of it up the line. Sad the officials missed it, but overall I thought they called a great game. On to Marquette and rest those legs boys.

[CALzip88]

You have to go back to last September against Notre Dame, where the Zips lost 3-1, to see the last time the Zips gave up 20+ shots... That was also playing down a man for 60 mins because of an early red card. That just put into perspective the type of game this was.

Indiana had a number of quality chances. Fenlason made a few bigs save! And the Zips put away one more chance then the Hoosiers. That was the difference in tonight's game good goalkeeping and finishing chances early. It looked like a much different Zips team then is normal. Maybe it was the offensive pressure but we just had no rythum. But we got the win and that is what counts.

[GoZips]

Just an observation: When your keep continually "punts" the ball you are begging for the type of action we saw tonight.

Think. When the keep passes the ball out to a defender you are putting the control of the ball in the hands of your defense men.

That is nearly a 100% probability that your side controls the ball on the restart.

Conversely; when the keep "punts" the ball on a restart such as a goal kick very bad things happen. You have just turned

your possession into a 50/50 ball. Well, more like 75/25 in favor of your opponent.

Think. The opponent is facing your keep and sees the ball being "punted". They can easily react to the punt. Where as your

players have their backs to the ball making seeing the ball rather difficult.

Result. The opponent easily attacks your goal by quickly returning the ball up field. This leads to plays in your end of the field.

Wallah ...!!! Corner kicks which are converted into scores.

When the keep punts the ball you just witnessed the dumbest/stupidest play in soccer. A sure fired way to help your side lose.

NEVER, NEVER, EVER PUNT THE BALL. Only a moron does this.

[CALzip88]

Only a moron give a ball to a players that are under pressure who ar eloping the ball right a left. It was clear as day that the defense was not ready to play with that pressure. If your passing blame it would go to a defense and mid that could not string passes together all night. Better give a 50/50 ball past mid then to lose it with sloppy play in the D... Yes it doesn't look pretty but the our D was not ready for the high pressure the Hoosiers put on us.

[mes102]

So that shot in the first half that everyone thought was a goal? Yeah, pic proves it should of been goal #3

I hate these officials

[Crew8]

So that shot in the first half that everyone thought was a goal? Yeah, pic proves it should of been goal #3

I hate these officials

Officials I thought were very fair this evening and called a great game. If you look again at the photo, Brenes might of been blocking the assistants view to confirm a decision. I agree it was a goal the second I seen it live, unfortunate the officials missed it

[zippyfan34]

So that shot in the first half that everyone thought was a goal? Yeah, pic proves it should of been goal #3

I hate these officials

Great Pic. Thats what I could see from the reserved stands that when the ball was on the ground it was across the line. To the line judge's defense, from the picture it looks like Brenes might have been right on the end line and obstructed his view. Luckily in the end, we survived.

[fknbuflobo]

Just an observation: When your keep continually "punts" the ball you are begging for the type of action we saw tonight.

Think. When the keep passes the ball out to a defender you are putting the control of the ball in the hands of your defense men.

That is nearly a 100% probability that your side controls the ball on the restart.

Conversely; when the keep "punts" the ball on a restart such as a goal kick very bad things happen. You have just turned

your possession into a 50/50 ball. Well, more like 75/25 in favor of your opponent.

Think. The opponent is facing your keep and sees the ball being "punted". They can easily react to the punt. Where as your

players have their backs to the ball making seeing the ball rather difficult.

Result. The opponent easily attacks your goal by quickly returning the ball up field. This leads to plays in your end of the field.

Wallah ...!!! Corner kicks which are converted into scores.

When the keep punts the ball you just witnessed the dumbest/stupidest play in soccer. A sure fired way to help your side lose.

NEVER, NEVER, EVER PUNT THE BALL. Only a moron does this.

Did Fenlason punt the ball even once against Indiana? He kicked it from the ground every time. Can you remember a punt?

The defense should play out of the back whenever possible, agreed. But not when opponent is pressing so high. An occasional long ball must be mixed in to keep the high pressure honest. One likes to think that our odds of collecting the long ball are better than 50%, but even so, a long ball must be boomed from the back from time to time. A good team can do both.

And weather/pitch conditions must also be taken into account. On several instances, Zips nearly got burned by their own reckless care of the ball along the back line, during a cold rain. Last night was not the match to get cute in the back. Zips were lucky.

Remember that 1/3 of all goals are the result of defensive turnover.

[fknbuflobo]

Officials I thought were very fair this evening and called a great game. If you look again at the photo, Brenes might of been blocking the assistants view to confirm a decision. I agree it was a goal the second I seen it live, unfortunate the officials missed it

It was a well-officiated match overall, but that certainly looked a score.

[Zipmeister]

Just an observation: When your keep continually "punts" the ball you are begging for the type of action we saw tonight.

Think. When the keep passes the ball out to a defender you are putting the control of the ball in the hands of your defense men.

That is nearly a 100% probability that your side controls the ball on the restart.

Conversely; when the keep "punts" the ball on a restart such as a goal kick very bad things happen. You have just turned

your possession into a 50/50 ball. Well, more like 75/25 in favor of your opponent.

Think. The opponent is facing your keep and sees the ball being "punted". They can easily react to the punt. Where as your

players have their backs to the ball making seeing the ball rather difficult.

Result. The opponent easily attacks your goal by quickly returning the ball up field. This leads to plays in your end of the field.

Wallah ...!!! Corner kicks which are converted into scores.

When the keep punts the ball you just witnessed the dumbest/stupidest play in soccer. A sure fired way to help your side lose.

NEVER, NEVER, EVER PUNT THE BALL. Only a moron does this.

You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

You would think the offensive players would have been taught to look back for the ball. But NO, they spend all their time looking at the opposing goalie, or into the stands, or just about anywhere other than where the ball is coming from. This has GOT TO STOP.

[Mike Stefanov]

So that shot in the first half that everyone thought was a goal? Yeah, pic proves it should of been goal #3

I hate these officials

While that is a great picture, it doesn't prove that it was a goal. The near post from the angle of the picture is not allowing the viewer to see if the ENTIRE ball crossed the line. From my perspective it proves that it isn't a goal but nothing can be concluded from the picture. The referee probably couldn't tell either and had the near post on his ide and/or Brenes blocking his view. Remember: for a goal to count the entire ball must cross the line. If 99.9% of the ball has crossed the line but there is that .01% that still has the line underneath it, it's not a goal. Same rules as when a ball is out or not over a touch line.

BEAT MARQUETTE!!!

[LZIp]

Just an observation: When your keep continually "punts" the ball you are begging for the type of action we saw tonight.

Think. When the keep passes the ball out to a defender you are putting the control of the ball in the hands of your defense men.

That is nearly a 100% probability that your side controls the ball on the restart.

Conversely; when the keep "punts" the ball on a restart such as a goal kick very bad things happen. You have just turned

your possession into a 50/50 ball. Well, more like 75/25 in favor of your opponent.

Think. The opponent is facing your keep and sees the ball being "punted". They can easily react to the punt. Where as your

players have their backs to the ball making seeing the ball rather difficult.

Result. The opponent easily attacks your goal by quickly returning the ball up field. This leads to plays in your end of the field.

Wallah ...!!! Corner kicks which are converted into scores.

When the keep punts the ball you just witnessed the dumbest/stupidest play in soccer. A sure fired way to help your side lose.

NEVER, NEVER, EVER PUNT THE BALL. Only a moron does this.

I might think you were on to something if every other team at all levels of soccer in the world didn't do this. Also, you have goal kicks confused with punting the ball.

[mes102]

Yeah, I agree on the officials. Bad choice of words. I'm just frustrated with officials in general. I just think at times, there's too many mistakes in a game. I'm a former soccer official myself(actually getting back into it next year again), and I just don't understand how that many mistakes can be made. I tried seeing the side official and that's probably why I didn't see him. However, I just don't understand how the sport of soccer hasn't gone to cameras on the endline(off the field) zoomed in on the opposite side of the sideline official. There's been goals that shouldn't of been allowed, and saves that should of been goals, that we can see clearly later on. Not saying to stop the match to "challenge" the call, because that changes the sport. My take would be for the coach to tell the officials to check it at halftime if they felt that it was a goal. And that's the only thing I would let coaches challenge. Whether or not a goal or save was not a goal or a save. If coach challenges twice, and is wrong twice, he gets warned. If he challenges a third time and is wrong, the coach is gone. It should keep the flow to the game. Only downside to my proposal is if something happens in the 2nd half, and if teams tied, it changes the outcome of how a team would potentially play in the 2nd half. Just trying to dust some cobwebs up there and get the mind awake this morning.

[fknbuflobo]

I might think you were on to something if every other team at all levels of soccer in the world didn't do this. Also, you have goal kicks confused with punting the ball.

Well, if Goal Kicks are what we are indeed talking about, then this conversation makes even less sense to me.

A Goal Keeper must kick the ball downfield occasionally, at the very least. If the opposition's forwards elect to stifle the short pass Goal Kick on the ground, they can accomplish that every single time. So, there must be an alternative for the Goal Keeper, which is the long Goal Kick. The opposition offense must be made to pay for allocating resources toward preventing us from playing from the back.

Zips must get better at gaining possession from the inevitable long kick. This usually entails collecting the second ball, because possession is rarely gained from the initial contact, or first ball.

Last night, Hoosiers were much better at collecting that second ball. They anticipated better, they reacted quicker, and they were physically tougher in winning possession.

Marquette will watch video of last night’s match, to be sure. Zips had better fix that.

[acstorfer]

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/in...indiana_in.html

This was definitely a nice win. It was also a very important win for the future of the program.

[akronad]

As a former GK and GK coach, I understand what your saying. However, you need to go with what the situation dictates and the style of play. If you opponent is leaving you room and your backs show, you make the throw to them. If the backs are being pressured and the GK doesn't think the throw will make it to them, then the best thing to do is punt the ball.

[fknbuflobo]

As a former GK and GK coach, I understand what your saying. However, you need to go with what the situation dictates and the style of play. If you opponent is leaving you room and your backs show, you make the throw to them. If the backs are being pressured and the GK doesn't think the throw will make it to them, then the best thing to do is punt the ball.

Right.

It is remarkable how Fenlason disdains the punt, continually placing the ball on the ground before kicking.

Why does he do this? As a GK coach, perhaps you can lend some insight. Is it about the trajectory of the ball?

[Dave in Green]

Assuming the Zips have a good GK coach and the GK is doing what he's been coached to do, it's hard to fault the GK for the strategy he was using. Indiana was a tough matchup for the Zips, so any weakness in execution was going to be magnified.