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The dreaded post zapper deleted a post in this thread where the names of two

Rapscallions who believe they know more than the coaching staff were used. I think just about

Everyone here knows to whom other posts were referring, but in the

End the post that made the identity of the offenders crystal clear got the ax

& I don’t think this is fair.

No two ways about it, our moderators could be a lot more moderate.

I think, but cannot prove, that a lot less censorship takes place on other sites.

Censorship may be required in some cases, but in this case it seemed a bit extreme.

Know that some of you will disagree; just my two cents worth.

Oh, and Happy New year.

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The dreaded post zapper deleted a post in this thread where the names of two

Rapscallions who believe they know more than the coaching staff were used. I think just about

Everyone here knows to whom other posts were referring, but in the

End the post that made the identity of the offenders crystal clear got the ax

& I don’t think this is fair.

No two ways about it, our moderators could be a lot more moderate.

I think, but cannot prove, that a lot less censorship takes place on other sites.

Censorship may be required in some cases, but in this case it seemed a bit extreme.

Know that some of you will disagree; just my two cents worth.

Oh, and Happy New year.

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Well, yesterday it was 2013 and today its 2014, so today is a new year and I was wishing everyone well for the remainder of 2014.

Happy New Year to you as well.

Maybe a good resolution for some on the Board could be to be a little less sensitive about what others write when they are being critical of something or someone.

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I'm leaning heavily on Abreu's departure from the team as a fact of life that's not going away.

As my post pointed out, did we blame the Quincy situation for our losses early last year? I don't think we did. I'm just trying to figure out why so many people are looking in the past this year, but didn't seem to do the same thing last year when we unexpectedly lost probably our best player.

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If you aren't seeing the implication that some people believe Dambrot to be the problem (aka we need a new coach) then I can't help you. It is all over about the last 3 pages of this thread.

You can't point to it because it doesn't exist. I'm one of the more critical and I've never once called for his head and neither has anyone else. There is a difference between criticism and calling to fire someone. It's something I hope some can better understand in 2014

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As my post pointed out, did we blame the Quincy situation for our losses early last year? I don't think we did. I'm just trying to figure out why so many people are looking in the past this year, but didn't seem to do the same thing last year when we unexpectedly lost probably our best player.

I think there's a simple explanation for that. There were plenty of other legitimate reasons to blame for last season's early losses. Tree and Nick were ineligible for the first 2 games (both losses). Alex suffered a severe ankle sprain that took weeks to heal and slowed him down for many early season games while Chauncey started the season with a bum knee that required mid-season surgery, during which time the team had 2 more early season losses. All of that together would have put the team in a bad position even if Q had been playing. Once all 4 of those players were eligible to play and healthy, the Zips rattled off 19 straight wins without Q. The loss of your only effective PG is going to affect team performance more than the loss of a player at another position just as the loss of your only effective QB would affect a football team's performance. It's pretty obvious to everyone this season that lack of effective PG play is the team's main problem, and the loss of Alex is the cause.

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@Quickzips, @GP1 is correct on this one. I just went back and reread every word in this thread (I'm a glutton for punishment), and no one specifically suggested that UA should replace Coach Dambrot. There were just the usual complaints about some of his coaching moves that we see after every Zips loss, which grow even sharper when there are multiple losses in games that some fans expected to be easy wins. For example, it's been said in this thread that Coach Dambrot doesn't have an offensive game plan when in fact details of the Zips' offense have been documented right here on ZN.o thanks to Dr Z communicating with the coaching staff:

I posed the question in a previous post about what type of offense we ran. I never really got an in depth answer from any ZN member. The coaching staff was gracious enough to give me a complete answer. The staff also wanted me to express how thought out they are on the offensive end of the floor. Hard to argue after a 90 point performance.

Coach Dambrot runs a combination of different offenses. First he runs a fast break similar to NC which tries to get the ball inside. From there on ball reversal we screen down and the get into baseline runner, with our 4/5 men on blocks and a player running off their screens. If the backside post helps we flush hi for a hi/lo look. We can sprint into on ball screens and either pick and pop or pick and roll. We run a lot of quick hitters always looking to get the ball inside and then play out of the post. Depending on what the defense does will determine which cut we run. We have set plays to isolate individuals in the post, sets designed to shoot the 3 and sets designed to drive the ball. We can run a set that is motion offense, we can spread the floor and use the ball screen to create total defensive rotations. We run a lot of different things to utilize our personnel. Hope this gives you a quick overview of our offense.

That's just part of an extensive list of offensive schemes that those of us who've attended Zips practices see being taught to the players. How well the various offenses are executed in actual games is another story.

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The loss of your only effective PG is going to affect team performance more than the loss of a player at another position

If that were correct it would sure make coaching and recruiting a lot easier. The truth is, there are many good basketball teams that don't have point guards. But, we'll see how it all works out for the Zips. There's plenty of other problems that Keith has to iron out right now, and Nyles sure seems to be performing well now, compared to other newbies that were seeing action at that position for the first time. Hopefully, we can still get some quality minutes again from Carmelo now too.

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@skip-zip, if the importance of point guards to good teams is all you disagree with from my last post, we're making progress. :D

I agree with you that Nyles is performing better now than the first couple of games. And if as you say teams can be successful without true PGs, then Nyles could be just what the Zips need. He's been a combo guard since HS. He's always been a high scorer who could also handle the ball. In junior college he played the 2 more than the 1 and had fewer assists than his backcourt teammate. But in watching last night's game, I noticed that the Zips' offense seemed to be more organized and disciplined when Melo was running it. That makes sense because Melo has always been a pure PG. He's more focused on running the offense and distributing the ball than shooting because he knows he's not a shooter. If you could combine the best attributes of Nyles and Melo, you'd have a pretty good all-around PG who could distribute the ball well, knock down timely shots when needed and also play decent D. It would be great if both Nyles and Melo improved to the extent that Q could go back to playing at the wing.

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@skip-zip, if the importance of point guards to good teams is all you disagree with from my last post, we're making progress. :D

I agree with you that Nyles is performing better now than the first couple of games. And if as you say teams can be successful without true PGs, then Nyles could be just what the Zips need. He's been a combo guard since HS. He's always been a high scorer who could also handle the ball. In junior college he played the 2 more than the 1 and had fewer assists than his backcourt teammate. But in watching last night's game, I noticed that the Zips' offense seemed to be more organized and disciplined when Melo was running it. That makes sense because Melo has always been a pure PG. He's more focused on running the offense and distributing the ball than shooting because he knows he's not a shooter. If you could combine the best attributes of Nyles and Melo, you'd have a pretty good all-around PG who could distribute the ball well, knock down timely shots when needed and also play decent D. It would be great if both Nyles and Melo improved to the extent that Q could go back to playing at the wing.

I'm sure we agree on plenty of things!!

I did say recently that I thought Carmelo would work his way back into more playing time. And I found it interesting on the postgame show on Tuesday, when Keith indicated that he can run more set plays with Carmelo on the floor. That indicates to me that his knowledge is still very valuable to us. I just think there's an uneasiness about him that causes him to make some really crazy errors when he's out there. He'll have to work that out. Then, maybe we have the best of both worlds with these two contrasting individuals at that position.

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I don't think anyone here believed South Carolina had much of a chance against #10 Florida in Gainesville, especially after losing their team leader, senior PG Bruce Ellington. I would expect the same result against Kentucky and a couple of other top SEC teams. I think by the end of the season that the 5 freshmen and 3 sophomores in their 10-player rotation will have gained enough experience to make the Gamecocks competitive with most SEC teams. This is one of the youngest teams in the country with a lot of raw talent and excellent coaching.

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I don't think anyone here believed South Carolina had much of a chance against #10 Florida in Gainesville, especially after losing their team leader, senior PG Bruce Ellington.

I wonder what would have happened if Bruce Ellington was playing when they throttled us by nearly 40 points?

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