ZachTheZip Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Could that simply mean that their conference foes, where they play about 2/3 of their games, suck so bad that the small number of OOC games that they play has little impact?If they played easier OOC schedules to get better records, then about 2/3rds of their schedule would be against other teams with better schedules and so a higher RPI. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Is a better RPI going to help a MAC program more in getting a CIT, or a CBI bid? I know it means nothing for an NCAA bid.I WISH MAC basketball was really at the MVC's level instead of only at their RPI level. I'd pay twice as much for my season tickets. Quote
ZachTheZip Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 The difference between the MBC and MAC is that the MVC has two really great teams and a bunch of bad ones. The MAC has a lot of pretty good teams, but nobody stands out. Top-to-bottom, the conferences are very similar in strength.Would you like the MAC better if it had 9 Ball States one average Can't State, and one or two ranked teams? 90% of your conference schedule would be unwatchable. Quote
johnnyzip84 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 Effectively trading Creighton for Loyola (Ill.) really hurt the MVC's relative strength. Quote
Sportsjunkie330 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 The difference between the MBC and MAC is that the MVC has two really great teams and a bunch of bad ones. The MAC has a lot of pretty good teams, but nobody stands out. Top-to-bottom, the conferences are very similar in strength.Would you like the MAC better if it had 9 Ball States one average Can't State, and one or two ranked teams? 90% of your conference schedule would be unwatchable.I would love to see 2 ranked MAC teams (especially if one was UA) and the rest of the conference be crappy. None of the MAC schools are even close to being ranked. 1 Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Posted February 12, 2015 Unless I'm missing something, you're not taking into account the teams the AAC are playing IN conference. If the MAC was 80-50 OOC with the AAC OOC schedule - while also playing quality teams after January - I'd imagine the RPI # would be a lot higher than .5220You are correct. I cited from the wrong column on that number. I should have cited OOC RPI rather than total RPI. In the OOC RPI column the MAC is #11 at 0.5044 vs. #8 at 0.5208 for the AAC. So the AAC did get slightly more value than I originally posted out of virtually the same won-lost record as the MAC but with a significantly higher difficulty of schedule. Thanks for pointing that out. Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 12, 2015 Author Report Posted February 12, 2015 Could that simply mean that their conference foes, where they play about 2/3 of their games, suck so bad that the small number of OOC games that they play has little impact?It means that all of the teams in the SWAC taken together had the #3 ranked SOS out of all conferences, but that they didn't earn sufficient RPI out of that to carry into conference play. In other words, they all started conference play with poor RPI because they couldn't win on the road against stronger OOC opponents. SWAC schools schedule that way because they're all underfunded and need to earn money in OOC road games to help pay for their athletic programs. They are the polar opposite of the overfunded majors that have loads of cash to buy whatever they want. MAC teams are somewhere in the middle. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 I would love to see 2 ranked MAC teams (especially if one was UA) and the rest of the conference be crappy. None of the MAC schools are even close to being ranked.Gonzaga and Saint Marys seem to struggle with this situation. Quote
Big E Zip Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 I know this is off topic, but does anyone give Can't a shot in Toledo tomorrow night? What would be more beneficial for us? IMO I'll take the Can't loss and hopefully end the weekend with a 2 game lead over Can't and Buff. Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Posted February 13, 2015 The most important thing right now is seeding for the MAC tournament. Getting at least a top 4 seed is critical for the Zips. Earning a #1 or #2 seed gets you straight into the semifinals, while getting a #3 or #4 seed gets you straight into the quarterfinals. The other 8 teams will end up having to win 4 games in 6 days while playing 5 games in 8 days (including their regular season finales) to win the tournament. It's a little early to be guessing which results among other top teams would end up helping the Zips the most. Any results that end up getting the Zips a minimum #4 seed and preferably a top 2 are obviously good. Looking at the current overall MAC standings, it appears that only 6 teams have a realistic shot at those top 4 seeds:REALISTIC SHOT AT TOP 4 SEED8-3 - UT*8-3 - Zips8-3 - BGSU7-4 - Can't7-4 - CMU6-5 - UBUNLIKELY TO EARN TOP 4 SEED5-6 - WMU4-7 - OU4-7 - EMU4-7 - NIU3-8 - MU2-9 - BSU* Currently owns tie breaker over Zips for #1 MAC tournament seed Quote
Dr Z Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 Interesting promotion in Toledo. UT is giving away prizes to one potential Tinder couple that match up during the first half, including $100 cash and tickets to Cavs vs. Celtics next month. If that doesn't scream out love at first swipe, I don't know what does. Quote
Hilltopper Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 For us old folks, what the hell is "tinder"? Quote
ZachTheZip Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 Tinder is essentially Hot-or-not, but with instant messaging added. You put up a profile picture on the app, and it goes into a queue of other profile pictures that people of the opposite gender get to sort through. It's all based on location, as given by your phone's GPS. If two people mutually like each other, they get a notification, and can send messages back and forth. Quote
Dr Z Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 For us old folks, what the hell is "tinder"?For the unaware, there is a hyperlink attached to the word, "Tinder" in the original post. If one would click on it, it would take them to the wiki page with a full explanation. It doesn't get easier, until the enhancements in telepathic communication are advanced. 2 Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 13, 2015 Author Report Posted February 13, 2015 I'm so old-fashioned that I still go to basketball games just to watch basketball without gimmicks. But I guess you never know when you might go to a Tinder event and have a basketball game break out. Quote
Dr Z Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 I'm so old-fashioned that I still go to basketball games just to watch basketball without gimmicks. Sitting at Quicken Loans Arena watching a Cleveland Cavaliers game would be your worst nightmare. Quote
The Hip Zip Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 K E N T @ Toledo ESPN U 6:00 early start,interesting game IMO as this is the very definition of the dreaded sandwich spot for the Radio City Rockettes. They are off of that huge win at Buffalo then hit the road again for our return match, Still, the lack of Can't's interior presence is probably a fatal flaw. I'll be watching.....Dare I say I'm hoping the F lashes can steal one tonight. Quote
The Hip Zip Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 BTW: Good one in the horizon as well. GB @ Valpo ESPN 2 7:00 Time for the old split screen chromecast Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Posted February 14, 2015 Wow. Can't blew a 5-point lead with 17 seconds left and they're in OT. Quote
zipsrule Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Looks like they will hang on to win.....maybe..... Quote
zipsrule Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 And the Zips are your current MAC leader. Quote
The Hip Zip Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 To be slightly blunt Toledo is a stupid and lazy team. It's true Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Posted February 14, 2015 Can't completes the upset, 76-75, and both Can't and Toledo are 8-4 in the standings. Quote
Dave in Green Posted February 14, 2015 Author Report Posted February 14, 2015 Can't 76, UT 75 (OT)MAC STANDINGS8-3 - Zips*8-3 - BGSU8-4 - UT8-4 - Can't7-4 - CMU6-5 - UB5-6 - WMU4-7 - OU4-7 - EMU4-7 - NIU3-8 - MU2-9 - BSU* Zips currently own tie breaker over BGSU for MAC tournament #1 seedSATURDAY MATCHUPS:8-3 Zips @ 4-7 EMU8-3 BGSU @ 2-9 BSU7-4 CMU @ 6-5 UB4-7 OU @ 3-8 MU4-7 NIU @ 5-6 WMU Quote
Sportsjunkie330 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Posted February 14, 2015 Can't completes the upset, 76-75, and both Can't and Toledo are 8-4 in the standings.Huge win for the Zips tonight! Quote
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