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I want you to be right. I’m trying to buy into this team but it’s tough

Seems the best move is to have Milwee replaced first before they think about replacing Bowden. Obviously the weak link is the offense. We'd be winning more if that good defense had some help. Watched Zips football with Terry Bowden show. First time I've seen him in the show be vocally critical of the offensive ineptness and not make excuses.

I will at least attend a game this year, unlike last year.

People on this board tend to over hype Akron's facilities as the "best in the MAC" or some variation of that. That could be said ten years ago, but schools have since followed through with indoor facilities of their own that are much better than ours, and more of those are coming. That's not an excuse for the lack of talent we have and the inability to develop players skill-wise, but it's worth noting that Akron doesn't have the edge in that department that it used to.

Quite possibly. I admire your Thanksgiving Day prep, but Milwee has called a completely different game than Bowden beginning with the first year he took over play calling. And it has been consistently bad.

An A? He's been here for 7 seasons, that's a lifetime in the coaching world. What I've learned from his whole 7 year, not just a 2 month period, tenure is that you can expect a perennial 5-7 win team who even in their best years will still get blown out by the better teams of the MAC. Maybe for you that's good enough, but for me it's not. We have the best facilities in the MAC by a wide margin, and we play in the most fertile recruiting ground in the MAC by a wide margin. The right coach could turn this into a consistent 8-10+ win team real quick. I appreciate Bowden got us out of the rut RI put us in, but he's taken us as far as he can. We need fresh blood to make us a consistent MAC contender. It seems so many are scared of change despite the fact Larry Williams managed to snag us a high caliber men's basketball coach and perhaps a quality women's basketball coach. Football is his bread and better. I'm confident he'll make a high caliber hire. Edit: I've always been one to stay out of the the recruiting hype and just wait 2-3 years to see how good a recruiting class really was. I still went ahead and looked at the recruiting sites to see if there was any legitimacy to your claim that we're recruiting better. 247 has us 8th in MAC recruiting rankings and Rivals has us dead last. It seems you stating we're recruiting better is pure specualtion on your part as the people who get paid to do it thinks we're still in the bottom half of the MAC in that department.

I didn't say this season has been good. If I were to give a grade on Bowdens tenure through September, I along with a lot of others I'd presume, would have given him an A. Inheriting what he did, getting to two bowl games, a conference championship, owning Kent, beating NW, recruiting on the upswing, etc.. it looked pretty darn good. Whatever happened the last two months has obviously been tremendously bad, and made this season a failure. No way around it. I'm not ready to fire him over a failure of a season. You may be, and that's fine. I think the OC and probably OL coach need to go, and then give TB next year to see what happens. If he doesn't want to make any changes, then this is a different convo.

So, one year removed from a MAC East Championship and a bowl appearance...after a 2016 contract extension, we are somehow going to fire Bowden for under achieving? Don't see us buying him out of 2019 & 2020 Base compensation 2017 guaranteed pay: $406,000 Total contract pay: $3,630,000 Contract length: 9 years Start date: 12/22/2011 Last amended: 8/1/2016 Expires: 2/28/2021

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