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Biggest difference appeared to be travel, but MAC is very close. Much cheaper to bus than fly. Edit: I would imagine main difference is in NIL. Either school plans to do more revenue share or they have boosters lined up to commit $2M+. Edit: I see @tpsjugglerdude already touched on this.

What's overlooked is we're about to lose @Illini Zip

I will say Ford was still kind of an unknown and wasn't even the top assistant when Groce left OU. He wasn't going to be offered that job. No way was he going to be offered the Illini job. Butler could have paid him as much, if not more, to be an assistant. Akron can pay him a lot more to be head coach than CoC can pay him to be an assistant.

I actually thought you were using sarcasm like you sometimes do.

If this is even true that would be eye opening. With Butler that's a team that he has prior connections to, plays in a major conference, and reportedly plans to spend $9 million on next years roster. The CAA is a lateral conference relative to the MAC and CoC has been something between Akron and Kent when it comes to on the court success. It would be a signal that he just wanted out of Akron if he took this job.

Not something that I disagree with. I was more just pointing out any 19 would have probably said something similar if put on the spot infront of the local media, his coach, and fellow players. Not like he took to social media and left a heartfelt post saying he was going to run it back or something.

I don't know if he made a big deal. He was just asked after losing to Akron if he would be back and he just responded absolutely. Really what else was he to say? "Hell no, I'm ditching this pathetic sh**hole." Toledo fans seemed convinced he would return because apparently one of Toledo's assistants is a family friend. You would think they would have learned after Simmons ditched their program last year.

It could just be schools gauging the market. Some of those schools he might be their option if their top 10 guys fall through. Either way, if there is that many teams him signing at Akron will probably be unlikely. Odds are some team will value him much higher than we might. I looked at his numbers against D1 competition, 2 of which were low majors. Nothing really jumps out to me that he's a must get.

My guess, at least for the hats, they probably didn't have too much in stock. They said they had over 1k orders and if they had that many hats pre-made it would have been a huge waste of money had Scott not hit that shot and the Zips didn't 3Peat. As for the hoodies it could be what @Zips1991 said or it's very possible they ran out of stock there as well and had to place another shipment.

Acceptance is the first step towards recovery 😅

Going four schools in four years route I see.

Link isn't working for me.

Once again I don't think anyone thought he was going to the College of Charleston. @NWAkron was clearly being facetious and some took the bait.

Yes, and I would say Miami sacrificed athleticism for perimeter height. They were also very undersized in the post, as can be seen by how they were bullied by UMass and Tennessee, so not sure if that's a terrific example. I don't disagree that height is important. Just that other schools with deeper pockets are going to pay a premium for it. IMO if Tavari was 6'3" he probably gets similar offers to Nate in the portal when he put his name in. Maybe it's still worth sacrificing athleticism if it means we get taller. I'm more pointing out there will be trade-offs.

I feel a big part of the problem is we're not going to be able to afford a 6'4" Tavari or a 7' Lyles. We would have to sacrifice skill for height.

Yes, salary is also likely comparable once you adjust for cost of living as well. Groce I believe got a combined $100K bonus for winning the MAC Tournament and making the tournament. That would have brought his total compensation to like $950K.

I think you may have overlooked @NWAkron sarcasm.

Ianello killed any momentum Akron might have had with a new stadium. Building a consistent winner at Akron is going to be challenging when programs like Miami (OH) are reportedly going to be spending $6-$8 million in NIL moving forward. Even if we have success it doesn't mean people will show. Akron basketball averaged 2,147 this past season (8th in the MAC) despite winning the MAC tournament 4 out of last 5 years and having the winningest season in program history. I get football is more popular. I just don't see how it can consistently attract 15k+ when the basketball program can't even get 3k.

I think this might be the first MAC addition this offseason. https://x.com/i/status/2037017462286541090

Member of the Louisville state championship team. Considering he stayed local to play at Walsh, one would think Akron could convince him to stay in the area if he's someone the staff truly wants.

My vote just now got it to 50%/50%

These are the figures that I saw. No school was close to $20M player spend this year. I'm guessing top schools next year will be around ~$15 million. I'm not sure if any school hits $20 million.

Revenue share makes up a huge portion of these budgets, perhaps close to 50% of the overall player spend at these P5 schools. At least in the present state. I don't feel all B1G programs are the same. What OSU or Michigan are able to collect in NIL donations is going to differ from what Nebraska or Iowa can. I guess I don't know what you mean by far and away surpass. If Nebraska has a $10 million roster spend next year and Butler has $9 million I wouldn't view that as far surpassing or be a dollar value that Butler couldn't overcome. If Butler spends $9M I'm not sure how Nebraska could 2.5x it's current figure to get to a number of close to $15M, which is around when I'd say far surpasses. At least under the current parameters. Edit: If we see an increase to the revenue share cap I would be more inclined to agree. I feel an increased revenue share is where B1G and SEC programs could really flex their money. More so than donations.

Those schools also heavily invest in football whereas Butler doesn't. For every dollar Nebraska is fundraising for MBB they're likely fundraising $2-$3 for FBS football. Butler doesn't need to fundraise as much as Iowa or Nebraska to have a comparable MBB NIL budget as it's making hoops it's primary sport while those others are making it their distant secondary. @Zippy87 shared a post that said Butler plans to have $9 million NIL spend next year, which is more than what Nebraska or Iowa spent on this years MBB team.

$9 million NIL yet some on this board think it's a mid-major job lol. For comparison it's believed UMass led the MAC with $1.3M-$1.5M spend.