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Zips going to Zip

I'm actually thankful they didn't. He seemed to have found himself in a good landing spot. Allen and Mobley are both younger and play more minutes than Indy's Turner and Siakam. I just think he'll have more of an opportunity in Indy than he would in Cleveland.

Not meant to get off topic but what was really infuriating about that Ianello hire was that Akron was booming at the time. Enrollment was up, new stadium, relatively new fieldhouse, Akron's athletic budget was near the top of the MAC. We then decided to cheap out on what was the most important factor to success for a college program, the coach. I'm in the camp that doesn't think we should fire Moorhead as we can't afford it. Also, who out there could you get that you confidently believe could turn Akron into a winner? I don't necessarily think Moorhead is a bad coach. He might have been a great coach for us 15 years ago when we had an adequately funded program and bright spots to sell recruits. It's much tougher to win at Akron now as the stadium has lost that new car smell, the budget has been gutted, and apathy has set in. I'm not sure Moorhead has it in him to overcome the challenges.

To me it isn't as much about age as its about the fact that he has been out of the game for so long. It would be different if he was still involved in running camps or something to stay engaged. Having developed relationships helps with recruitment. Particularly when you don't have a giant war chests of NIL money to play with.

To be fair, I'm sure the Tigers had a bigger recruiting budget and more NIL than Kent.

I'm not upset. I've been fairly apathetic towards the football program ever since year 2 of Ianello. I think I've only attended 1 football game in the last decade despite only living 20 minutes away. Heck, I'm going to a tailgate for homecoming Saturday, but I'll skip the game. The program has just never given me much reason to invest my time or energy. Basketball is what I'm invested in regarding Zips athletics. I'm mainly just killing my time here until the basketball season starts. I'm not advocating firing Moorhead.

What opponents do you think would be winnable? We look like a bottom 10 FBS program. Do you want us to schedule 4 FCS schools? Edit: It should be noted that the OSU game should have been a home game against Kentucky. Kentucky bought out that game fairly late in the scheduling process. I'm not sure what all schools would have been available to fill in the spot.

This isn't a Bowden thread. One winning season in a 7 year tenure isn't going to get you statue at any school. Even at a school that has been the laughing stock of FBS for ~30 years. I'm not going to engage this discussion any further as it's irrelevant to this thread and discussing a coach that isn't even at Akron anymore is a waste of my time. Edit: Also, I'm not calling for Moorhead's job this season.

This is how I remember at the time as well. He had larger offers to be an OC elsewhere, but after having a health scare, realized family was more important than money. Especially since he's still making enough to live comfortably.

He had 7 or more wins in 2 out of his 7 seasons. That's not consistently winning 7+ games now is it?

The problem is they spent on facilities then proceeded to shop the clearance aisle bin for Ianello and Arth. Bowden and Moorhead both seemed like hires that a program trying to win would make, but we haven't consistently tried to make promising hires.

I don't think them staying in the MAC is an option per NCAA rules. Your home conference is the one that your basketball program is in. It's my understanding that you can't be an affiliated FBS member in football to another conference if your home conference sponsors FBS football

MVC would be their best option for all sports. The MVC might have some interest in Toledo, but I can't imagine they would want NIU. Their best option would probably be Horizon.

I shared this file a few weeks ago. It's the MAC'S most recent tax filing. It has all the information you need, including total payout for each MAC school. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/310682486/202411369349308926/full

He's the leading passer and rusher on a team that is 3-0 with 2 P4 wins. He's pretty much been a 1 man offense. He's going to draw some interest. I don't necessarily think he's going to be the top QB in the portal. I think Caleb Williams got $1 million. He's certainly not that level of good. Perhaps I was overestimating saying $200k, but it's certainly going to be much more than $12k. Time will tell on what the exact figure is.

I think he'll be fine. He might even be able to come ahead of what the assistant verbally offered since he now has game tape showing he can perform at a high level against P5 competition. I wouldn't be surprised if he signs for $200k somewhere, which is certainly much more than the $12k he would have gotten had he stayed and exhausted his last remaining year of eligibility. Edit: Heck I imagine even Akron in our poverty state could come up with more than $12k to pay this kid with one call to Kaulig.

If Akron found a coach that could consistently go 7-5 or 8-4, he'd probably get a statue outside of the stadium. Regardless of if he won MAC championships or not. The bar is that low at Akron.

Gonzaga AD is saying it's fake news. Maybe it's being discussed, but not yet finalized. Who knows. https://x.com/SRJimm/status/1838308621865582649

I'm younger than most posters here. Even the Charlie Frye Zips teams were before my time as a fan so my Zips football fandom has been bleak. That said, two of my more fond Zips football fan moments were beating Northwestern and going to the Big House and nearly knocking off Michigan. I still claim the refs blew the call by not calling the jersey grab by the Michigan defender. You seem to be more optimistic than me. I feel we would be 1-3 regardless of who we played this year, unless we were able to schedule multiple FCS schools. That's not to say I want to schedule 3 P4 a year in perpetuity. I do however like having 1-2 of them on the schedule that way it has opportunities to create those moments. Preferably against programs like Northwestern, Indiana, and yes Rutgers. Avoiding the OSU, Alabama, and Oregon's of the world. What's made me grow apathetic to the football program is all the 0-3 win seasons in conference play. You can go 1-3 OOC and still make a bowl game game by going 5-3 in MAC play. The MAC looks like it might be better this season, but it had previously been historically bad. The MAC East was probably the weakest division in all of college football. We've had plenty of opportunities to pad our win total in conference play, but failed to capitalize.

Kent briefly became relevant under Lewis. EMU became relevant under Creighton. Leipold made Buffalo relevant. The right head coach is vitally important in the college game as he wears two hats. He functions as both the head coach and the GM. I wouldn't say the right head coach is the only thing that matters, but it's what's most important. I wouldn't be willing to give up on Moorhead if we finish with ~3 wins this year, but he certainly should enter season 4 on the hot seat if that's the case.

So many people seem to blame the schedule. South Carolina and Rutgers have been bottom to mid-tier P5 programs in their respective conferences for the last decade or so. Even if we swap them out for a game against App State, Marshall, or Western Kentucky, I have little faith that we would be better than the 1-3 record we are currently.

My complaint has never been about competing against the Penn State's or Wisconsin's of the world. My complaint is we can't compete against our peers (Toledo, WMU, NIU, etc). Even if the entire MAC drops down a level, we're still at or near the bottom of the MAC food chain.

This football program has been destroyed since I-Coach, maybe even longer.

College football I've been turned off watching for years because it's boring. I often get asked to meet up with friends to watch OSU at a restaurant or a friends house. Looking at OSU's schedule last year, I see they played only 3 games that were decided by 10 points or less. 7 were decided by 20+ points. That's just not entertaining to watch. Particularly in the 4th quarter when the game is out of balance. The only redeeming quality is that with so many games being on TV all at once, odds are one will be watchable.

A few things. Toledo also plays midweek games. Akron in the past has hosted big events on game days. I remember a few years ago they even offered a free concert headlined by Soul Asylum prior to kickoff. I've seen other similar kid events that you shared that Akron has hosted. I don't think Toledo is doing much more than Akron besides establishing a winning culture and having competent decision makers/ADs. Akron has been miserable for so long that apathy has settled in. I was an undergrad during the Coach I years. I remember pregaming with friends to go to the games and by the time we'd sober up around half-time we were down 3 scores and were bored so we'd leave. Eventually we just quit going to the games altogether. I've tried offering these same friends free tickets after graduating to attend, but nobody wants to go because they remember how terrible the experience was. It's not fun watching "your team" lose by 20-30 points each week for a decade plus. The Browns were terrible for many years, but still most games were decided by 10 points or less. Akron games have historically been over at half-time. Put a product on the field that's worth investing 4-6 hours of one's time to attend and then maybe people will show up.