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It's a better job then Akron. Whether it's marginally better or clearly a step up is to be debated. I still think Claymann makes the most sense there as Groce has never coached outside the midwest and from a recruiting stand point he recruits Cincinnati and Cleveland fairly heavily. Not sure if he has the same connections in Florida or how he would do if fully reliant on the portal.

This may prove to be true, but Hubie being let go was kind of obvious and expected. I'm not sure that in itself proves validity.

If Bobby Hurley can get a job anyone can.

I would agree his run at Illinois is the bigger deterrent. I was more commenting because I was pointing out that tournament wins is not a requirement to get a P4 job. Steele's performance at Xavier is probably also why he wasn't taken as a more serious candidate. Had he went from assistant at Xavier to taking the Miami job and after 3 or 4 seasons put together the season he did I think given he is a Butler alum he would be the no brainer candidate.

Not to mention by playing the games on Friday you don't have to compete with rivalry Saturday. OSU-Michigan attracts a ton of attention. Usually a friend of mine hosts a watch party for the game. Even those who don't care much about OSU or even football still attend because who doesn't enjoy having an excuse to hang out with friends, drink beer, and eat pizza/wings. Trying to compete head-to-head would the game would be disastrous for any Ohio or Michigan MAC school from an attendance standpoint.

I feel that job goes to Flynn Claymann.

You don't have to get a NCAA Tournament win to get a P4 job. This offseason we've seen Casey Alexander take Kansas State job, McNamara get the Syracuse job, and Byran Hodgson take Providence job. None of them have an NCAA tournament win. In fact, with so much fewer mid-majors winning tournament games these days there is going to be fewer opportunities for P4 schools to hire the candidate that you described.

We'll have to see what ripple effects ND and potential UNC hiring have, but looking much better than 48 hours ago.

Randy Bennett probably took St. Mary's as far as he could. I'm not sure if you've seen them play outside of the tournament, but they play in what looks like a high school gym and he built them into a consistent at-large caliber program. I don't think ASU made that hire looking long-term. Probably more to right the ship and fix the culture mess that Hurley left behind. Perhaps making the job more attractive in 3-5 years for whoever they pivot to in the future.

It's not even a realistic comparison. If you compare the networth of Elon Musk to Dan Gilbert, Dan Gilbert might look "poor". Now if you compare Dan Gilbert to the average working person he's clearly rich. Even without Mark Cuban's money in this scenario Musk is OSU, Dan Gilbert is Indiana, and the G5 is your average blue collar American. Indiana having success is no indication that other G5 can succeed because frankly Indiana has vastly more resources at their disposal by simply existing as a Big 10 school. Edit: TV deal alone pays each B1G school ~$65 million/yr and that's not including any other league revenue. The next TV deal they negotiate I've heard estimates that it could top out around $100 million per school. Not really relatable to any MAC school TBH.

Outside of Simmons at OU I've heard very little from any players in the MAC committing to return. I don't think a single person on Miami, Toledo, or Kent has made such a post on social media. My guess is last year we were expected to return most of our team when they made those comments on social media. In a way saying we're going to run this back. This year we're going to have major roster turnover even if we keep every one who has eligibility because this years team had a lot more seniors compared to last year.

I think you're more optimistic than me on how many fans would show up on a cold, rainy Saturday in November to watch a 3-6 Zips team.

What's most interesting is that EMU and Sac State will be playing week 0. I imagine that was the only way the schedule makers could probably make things work given their late add.

I don't think there is anything that can alter the path we're heading down. The only hope is the continued globalization of the sport. That way the gap between the 1000 best player and 100 best player continues to shrink. That's the long game though.

I wonder in your case if they sold out and had to restock.

Out of curiosity has anyone received their hat yet?

I didn't see Holtmann talked about much before. Glad to hear another strong candidate has entered the race.

Yes, I know many people who grew up here and attended college here. They then left because the job market here wasn't great for their career (computer engineering, digital marketing, etc). When jobs went remote during covid some moved back because they were able to keep their Seattle, DC, etc. salary while being near family while paying Ohio living expenses. Many companies are pushing for return to office or at least want hybrid so who knows how sustainable getting those type of migrants back will be moving forward. I think the University is trying to attract out of state and out of country students. At least when I was an undergrad engineering programs in particular had a few because of our national rankings. It's harder to attract them for majors that don't get those recognitions. Edit: Probably a better place to have this conversation.

If you want to use that argument we should probably be spending more time reviewing our failing policies in Ohio and spend less time worrying about other states. By 2050 most counties in Ohio outside of Columbus or Cincinnati areas are projected to lose population. Some areas as much as 30% of the population. https://development.ohio.gov/wps/wcm/connect/gov/a9ee6aa5-cb22-4c35-8154-cf633daa6daf/State-of-Ohio-Population-Projections-Overview-2020-to-2050.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CONVERT_TO=url&CACHEID=ROOTWORKSPACE.Z18_M1HGGIK0N0JO00QO9DDDDM3000-a9ee6aa5-cb22-4c35-8154-cf633daa6daf-oTi9Hac

So we get the luxury of hosting a program like South Alabama or UIC? Yeah, I think I'll pass. We can schedule those teams in November or December if we really want to play them.

Bennett leaving I imagine is probably a combination of Gonzaga leaving, making the WCC most likely a 1 bid conference moving forward, and the growing necessity of NIL. Most coaches say their least favorite part of the job is recruiting. It can't be fun having to recruit an entire new team regularly because you find and develop them, but don't have the money to retain.

Calhoun to Cincy and Randy Bennett to Arizona State

I don't feel the two are mutually exclusive.

My comment was also more about building to the strength of the current roster.