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EMU and OU got the 11 AM Saturday slot today. Its not 17-1 start but EMU is up 16-5 right now. Announcers mentioned the Zips hot start on Wednesday.

To be clear, that wasn't the I should have stated it. The East has won 13 games againt the West this year while the West has only won 6. Sorry for any confusion.

The MAC just released their final football attendance figures. Zips didn't do too badly but surprisingly Buffalo led the conference in attendance. And poor EMU, terrible football attendance and only 603 showed up at the basketball game against the Zips which should have been a good draw. The weather may have hurt too but I don't see how they stay a D-1 program. Living in the shadow of UM is killing them. Buffalo -- 22,736 Ohio -- 20.672 Northern Illinois -- 20,669 Toledo -- 18,467 Akron -- 17,850 Western Michigan -- 17,347 Can't State -- 17,018 Miami -- 15,935 Massachusetts -- 15,830 Ball State -- 13,817 Central Michigan -- 13,224 Eastern Michigan -- 4,051

Forgot about this thread, I had posted something on this topic in the EMU thread but even with the two wins last night the West is still only 13-6 against the East (but the only West team without an East victory is CMU - careful Zips). The more things change ... One other thing I noticed when looking at the standings was that of the 33 conferences only three (the MAC, Big South and OVC) still divide their basketball standings into two separate divisions. Even the monster 15 team ACC doesn't do that. Maybe with the new scheduling format it might be time to end it since divisons no longer matter in the MACC tournament seeding. What that would mean is that you would get 7 teams twice and four teams once which is exactly how it is now except the four are always from the opposite division. I think it is time to end the divisional format for basketball.

In two weeks when we play EMU again. By the way, the report of the West arising from the dead may be a little premature (with the exception of Toldeo, who is 2-0 and has given Buffalo and Akron their only losses). The East is currently 13-4 against the West (the only other West wins over the East are WMU against Miami and EMU against BGSU). Can't State has their only two wins against the West. And looking at the Zips upcoming schedule it looks like the scariest game until Feb 19th (@Buffalo) right now is @BGSU. Never would have guessed that - BGSU knocks off @WMU and @Ohio in consecutive games. Wow.

Jake Kretzer currently listed under "Top Performers" on the ESPN MBB scoreboard sidebar.

Schedule is pretty strange this year, the extra West games are because the of the new 18 game schedule - and we don't play Buffalo at all until the last 6 games of the season and then play them twice in two weeks then. I think tonights game will tell a lot about the way this Zips season will go. Win it and I think a top 4 seed is really likely, lose it and it could well be play in game time. I think it could be that critical.

Of course that also begs the question of the ratio of 5's to 4's to 3's to 2's. I have no idea what the ratios are, but what if for every five star there are 1000 two star? That could account for some of it.

The only MAC player I see on the Denver roster is Zac Dysert from Miami. You may have to downgrade your point spread to 7.

Someone mentioned in another thread about the Zips getting absolutely destroyed by OU at home a couple years ago and that season still turned out all right. Toledo looks good and we don't match up well against them but I'm not ready to crown them by any stretch yet. This may not be the best Zips team we've seen but they are still good and will be in the thick of things at the end. Not convinced that EMU is all that special yet (and for those that are how would you like to be OU who has both Toledo and EMU twice), and I still predict a 14-4 MAC record which would give the Zips 22 wins for the 9th straight year. No panic after one bad game.

Nicely done - wish the Zips had shot that well. Forsythe and Boothe might be distant cousins.

Thought we were the better rebounding team and that Toledo couldn't play defense? No answer for Weatherspoon and another unforced turnover fest. Rockets have 11 offensive rebounds in the first half. Zips don't even gave that in total rebounds. Outrebounded 22-10. Ugh.

Wrong topic.

They stated it that way but what I think they did was pick the representative worst teams from over the entire decade. Good thing they didn't take more than one team from each school or we might have been playing ourselves in the championship.

The torch passing comment might be a little early, but I have to agree with his logic, however, this is a team that lost to WMU and barely beat Buffalo so they are no juggernaut. Zips can win this one.

We're back in for now since we lead the MAC - as a 15 seed against Villanova. But at least that game would be in Buffalo.

Worst thing is that the "championship" game that they cite sort of happened in 2012 and the Zips lost that game - I have no doubt the 2011 Zips were fully capable of losing it too - so really the 2011 Zips are the rightful national champions.

Translating the above - Derschang was picked with the 8th pick in the second round by Phildelphia and Stevenson the 15th pick of the second round by New York.

Akron is the last undefeated team in conference. Toledo knocked off Buffalo on an absolute buzzer beater, having only 2.4 seconds to make the shot. Glad to see Toledo get the win, in addition to helping us with Buffalo should bring a little more buzz into the game Saturday. Wake up early Zips and be ready to go.

Good win, I think Miami might be a .500 MAC team this year which is way better than last year. Harney had a very good game again, maybe he is really starting to figure things out now. Betancourt looked better (couple nice assist, a spin move for one of them, a three) maybe he's gaining some confidence. And as I saw KD walking across the floor I realized he is the "dean" of MAC coaches now.

Not a good first half, Zips lucky to be down only one (of course Miami's play had something to do with that).

Ah the audio is fantastic, just as we've come to expect. Sounds a lot like a constant, irritating, buzzing noise.

The MAC really looks wide open, after WMU beat Toledo and then won close against Miami, the highest scoring team in the league after two games drops a 37 point "effort" to EMU last night. Zips and Buffalo are the only two teams that haven't lost yet (and Buffalo's two wins were at home against the West). If the Zips can pick up the win tonight, that will be an excellent start.

Small aside for Pat, has anyone noticed that he's is 9-11 from the field in MAC play? Get him the ball more!

That is cute, he looks meaner than Tree , anyone know who the little guy is or is he just a fan like the rest of us?