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Happy to say I was at that Crew v DCU game in Cbus in which Wil ran down Espindola, took the ball to midfield and served up the perfect pass to Jiminez who scored. Celebrated that with Wil and his family in the Crew Stadium parking lot after the game. Great guy, Great player. So proud that he's a proud former Zip! Hope he and the U23's qualify for the Brazil Olympics in 2016. I would love to see him in another International match. For those headed to tOSU tomorrow night, Wil will definitely be in the stands among the Zips fans. GO ZIPS! BeatTheBuckeyes!

WOW the south hillside was only going to be used when the rest of the seating sold out. Depressing to look back at our hopes and dreams. Brookhart's last season, then iCoach. Now we're hoping for miracles (again) from TB. Right now I would settle to win the MAC regardless of whether or not "Joe Akron" exists and shows up. To hell with "Joe Akron". 2005 was fun. How many fans did the Zips draw that season? Alumni jumped on the bandwaggon to go to and see their alma mater in a Bowl game. Didn't Akron sell 15k tickets for that game?

http://www.uakron.edu/im/news/the-power-and-the-promise-of-public-higher-education ...This university is not a vocational school, nor is it a certification factory: it is a refinery of minds. Thomas Jefferson said, “The basis of our government (is) the opinion of the people.” I would argue that the transformative power of higher education—the ability to think critically and communicate effectively—is more necessary today than in Jefferson’s time. In his day, citizens were fed just a trickle of information and news. Today, we are continually bombarded by waves of opinions and dubious facts in the midst of important and truly useful information. How do we as citizens of a democratic republic determine what is true and what is not if not for the transformative power of higher education? Can our nation endure without a highly educated electorate and decision-makers?...

EDITTED: I mistakenly used the out of state surcharge for UA rather than the in-state tuition rates. Turns out Akron is only slightly less expensive for tuition and fees (Ohio resident) Akron: $9,922/year 12-16 credit hours tOSU: $10,037/year full time

By the way DiG, I agree with this as long as "these opportunities offer a solid return on investment and don't interfere with UA's primary obligation to it's students", as you state. One thing that really drives me insane about the tOSWho's money-making athletics machine and that of other schools in the same "league" is that all of the money seems to go back into sports or funding more athletes in a large number of sports and who knows where else. How about using some of that revenue for education of the masses and lowering tuition costs. I don't think tOSWho's tuition rates are much different than UA's (I didn't look them up; so, I could be wrong) even though they generate so much revenue from sports and membership in the B1G. I suspect they spend a lot of money sending numerous people to watch their NCAA playoff and bowl games among other schmoozing with well-to-do donors and influential persons and "to hell with the masses". Now that I think of it, perhaps I should request public records from the high and mighty tOSWho. I'd like to see what they tell me is open and available vs "trade secret". I bet no one here would get upset if I mentioned the State of Ohio Attorney General in correspondence with them.

I agree this is a dead issue. You also may be correct about future potential business arrangements and whether or not alarms will be raised. I happen to be close enough to this one that I was well aware of some of the potential downsides. So, I was sensitive to it and raised an alarm to those who share my passion in the Soccer forum. As I got into it more, I realized there were potentially more downsides than I had originally considered. It's human nature to get "riled up" over something you're passionate about and then realize there's actually more to it.

Importance of these things depends upon your point of view. If you're a current student or a prospective student, mistakes even by well-meaning people who aren't "a disciplined organization, with disciplined people engaged in disciplined thought and actions" that can lead to significant increases in tuition and fees likely matters to you, especially if you're working your butt off and/or racking up significant debt to pay for your education. It's easy for public employees to make decisions without disciplined thought when they're spending someone else's money. I'm glad you already have your degree DiG such that this doesn't matter to you. My nephew, who is currently enrolled at UA, and his mother care deeply about tuition and fee costs, irrespective of Zips Soccer, Zips Football, or the Cleveland Browns. Conceit in U.S. professional sports doesn't mean anything to me. I only attend MLS games these days. I love watching and keeping in touch with Kofi Sarkodie, DeAndre Yedlin, Caleb Porter, Darlington Nagbe, Michael Nanchoff, Scott Caldwell, Wil Trapp, Chad Barson, and their families, to name a few. EDIT: The games are much more fun to watch when you care about the people playing and the sport itself. Awesome people all of whom I respect and support and who built something great at UA. I refuse to have it and them disrespected by people who are clueless about soccer. EDIT2: Stu Parry, who started Zips Mens Soccer, and his family attend Zips Mens Soccer games. Great people. I won't allow them to be disrespected either. What a slap in the face it would be for Stu Parry to have to see football gridlines on a torn up Cub Cadet Field. Asking the State Attorney General for a clarification of UA's position on something being a "trade secret" based on case law isn't litigation and not a threat. I'm not a lawyer, and I'm not going to try to interpret case law. I don't recall anyone threatening litigation in this thread or any other related threads. Now who's the conspiracy theorist?

After a little research (<1 minute on Google), I've discovered it appears that the Ohio Big Foot Conference has passed for 2014, but here's the link for 2015. I thought it might be a good place for you to pick up some new sources. Perhaps the Sasquatch Summit which is coming up in November would help, but it will cost you to fly to the PNW. I didn't have time to look through their agenda, but maybe they have some training classes to help you with tracking down legendary creatures and their land usage habits. Might be well worth spending some of your time. There could be someone there who could help you hone your skills at doctoring .pdfs, .jpgs, and other such files, too. Hope this helps. EDIT: I almost forgot. Stay away from anyone who has any real information, especially if they have the ability to think critically. Facts could really hurt what you're trying to accomplish. Also, you shouldn't let human intelligence get in your way. I wonder if perhaps you should look at courses offered at UA's rival university in Portage County. I bet they have a lot to offer to help you steer clear of such things. Best wishes in your endeavors.

+1 I hope we have Zips fans show up in sizable numbers. I know Wil Trapp will be there and hopefully Chad Barson, too. fixed the 2nd sentence. I hate when I make typos and don't catch them because I'm in such a hurry to post.

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Create one. US Basketball vs other teams in the world. US Baseball vs other teams in the world. I guess we have the Olympics which have basketball but did away with baseball. Doesn't really matter. Just pointing out how conceited those claims are today. Just like the Miami Redskins became the Redhawks, MLB could change their Championship. I guess since we're the only country in the world that plays American Football, the NFL can continue to make its claim. Still seems conceited. EDIT: Now I'm just ranting in response to others.

Cop out when you have no facts to back up your position. I so look forward to your next well thought out response.

Read what you want, but my point was that MLB should change "World Series" to "MLB Championship Series" NBA should change rings to "NBA Champions" NFL should change rings to "NFL Champions" MLS named their championship "MLS Cup" NHL has the "Stanley Cup" It's easy and conceited for MLB, NBA, and NFL to claim "World Champion" when they don't invite the rest of the world. Your interpretation of what I was saying is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on ZN.o. ROFLMAO a lot today. My side hurts.

This has gone well beyond Cleveland Browns Training Camp coming to UA. Whether or not we agree on that and the use of First Energy Stadium-Cub Cadet Field, I hope you've seen enough herein as I have to understand how blunders like hiring Rob Ianello occur. How many blunders like that can we afford and ever get anywhere with the football program and fixing the budget issues? I can't imagine anyone seeing omissions and miscues like those apparent here and believing this to even come close to appearing as "a disciplined organization, with disciplined people engaged in disciplined thought and actions". I wish Dr. Scarborough the best in getting things aligned with his vision.

This just in from the UA public records officer... Mr. , no cost-benefit analysis document was created. Thus, I don’t have any additional documents to provide to you. Thanks, Scott Campbell Scott M. Campbell The University of Akron Office of General Counsel Associate General Counsel and Records Compliance Officer Buchtel Hall, Suite 63 Akron, Ohio 44325-4706 smc4@uakron.edu 330-972-7226 - Office 330-612-5930 - Cell Fax - 330-384-2611 Surprise, No cost-benefit analysis document was created. Not a trade secret as indicated in the response to my first request. It was NOT created. Nice. Well, at least I don't have to take that 5 minutes during the evening news to e-mail the State Attorney General. Wow, I'm glad they saved me from getting that involved.

Yeah, your latest comments didn't seem consistent with your earlier comments. I thought perhaps someone else took over your account. I'm not sure I engaged the ABJ editorial page editor. I didn't contact him. His editorial just happened to be there and helped me point out that the use of Cub Cadet Field (CCF) for football practice shouldn't be shrugged off so easily whether it's the Browns or any other football team using it. Others share that opinion. It's not mine alone. My reference to that editorial had nothing to do with swaying whether the Browns come to UA for training camp or not. As you said, Dr. Scarborough put that to bed during my face-to-face conversation with him. As far as open warfare between various UA factions, I think I mentioned Zips Football. Go read the Football forum on ZN.o, and you'll find a number of posters talking about things that I raised, not about the use of CCF, but winning football games drawing fans and the disappointment in what we saw Saturday. As a Zips FB season ticket holder, I think I have the right to comment/complain like other Zips FB fans, especially when I bring people to a game trying to convince them to come back. Thanks Zips FB for that unhelpful performance. Browns fans on campus witnessing that could set the program back further. Word of mouth with their friends could be devastating. How about the Zips start winning consistently, then we get a bunch of new people to come see them with an ACME-Zip type one-time event like I suggested some time ago on the FB forum, I believe. Win then demonstrate to the masses that you're worth their time and money.

And when you bring new people trying to sell them on UA football, and they see games like that, you immediately lose credibility with trying to get them to return.

Yeah. Can't sugar-coat that.

No one here has shown me a convincing argument of the benefits of Browns Training Camp at UA. It's all been conjecture and gut feel. Eyes on campus, must be good. Branding and it will help attendance for Zips Football grow. How do you know that. Winning will help Zips Football attendance grow. You can see that from other successful football programs. Having eyes on campus doesn't necessarily do that. Some people who come to Browns camp may return to see a Zips Football game. if the Zips lay a turd on the field like they did this past Saturday, what's the likelihood of those people returning and how many of their friends are they going to tell how awful the Zips are. A large number of Browns fans coming to training camp will be Ohio State fans. Sorry, folks but that's just the way it is in O H I O. I hate it too, but they have all the bandwaggoners who never attended a class there and many who have probably never set foot on that campus in Columbus. How many of the tOSU-Browns fans are coming back for a Zips football game. Can't State is the only other D1 school of which I'm aware has hosted a Browns training camp. When I look at Can't State, why don't I see all of the wonderous things that did for them? Someone says they're out of this competition. Did they pull their proposal or did the Browns turn them down already? I didn't see that and no link was provided. If Can't State pulled their proposal why? Please somebody who really, truly wants the Browns at UA show me some hard evidence of what it will really do for UA? EDIT: Sorry, just realized I was incorrect. BGSU hosted the Browns as well, and I meant to say an NFL training camp. So, you have at least 2 places to get data, Can't State and BGSU. Given BG's campus, I'd suggest looking there for evidence that Browns Training Camp helped them. Can't State just doesn't seem to me like a good place to search for this kind of data and who wants to set foot on that campus if the Zips aren't playing there.

Great use of hyperbole. Actually, the only country to land men on the moon. Our leaders were much more ingenius and visionary back in the 1960's and early 1970's. We depend on Russia, a country with whom we have strained relations, to take us to the ISS [international Space Station] these days. We can't even get people into low Earth orbit 300 or so miles up. And, you expect me to believe UA Athletics Department leaders have a plan to force grass to grow and take good root in 2 weeks and return our field to its current condition, withstanding a Fall Season without issue? ROFLMAO again.

He's correct about the potential damage to Mens Soccer recruiting. But, that's ok. I recognize you and others don't care about a successful program at Akron. You haven't really read and understood my points about how important it is not to drive away supporters with significant influence and financial backing. I'd like to ask Dr. Scarborough if anyone leading the Athletics Department mentioned there might be an uproar about this. Dr. Scarborough is new to UA and deserves the insight and foresight of his team members, however much or little they might possess. If you think I'm among only a few concerned about this because only of a few of us are posting on ZN.o, you're living in a strangely skewed world. EDIT: The $250k figure came from UA, apparently without any analysis. Michael Douglas didn't make it up nor did anyone else have to submit it to him.

"Threatening", really? There was no threat intended. I just want to know if what UA's lawyers told me is correct. I'd like to see the cost-benefit analysis. It takes an inordinate amount of time and effort to forward an e-mail to the Attorney General's Office and ask if UA's position is correct. All of 5 minutes while watching the evening news. Way too involved. EDIT: If it exists and is protected, and they want to get me off their backs, they could offer to let me see it in exchange for signing a non-disclosure agreement. I didn't ask for a copy of it. I asked to see it.

At least someone at the ABJ gets it. KEEP OFF THE GRASS September 19, 2014