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When ratings keep increasing for weekly broadcasts of American and English league track or gymnastics, I'll buy that.

And then the D hangs out at the midfield and allows Portugal to tie.

Yedlin getting lots of kudos for a great play and pinpoint cross. US up 2-1.

Right now the MAC champion goes to the GoDaddy Bowl in Mobile, although NIU showed a couple years ago we could go to a BCS bowl if ranked high enough. We're also contracted with the Little Caesars's Bowl in Detroit and Famous Idaho Potato Bowl in Boise. I don't know how long those contracts are for. I wish we could get into higher profile bowls, but not if we're going to be embarassed (like NIU was in the 2012 Orange Bowl).

Nothing good ever happens after 1am...

It's the size of the floor that matters. A hockey sized floor opens up a LOT of events that you can't hold in a basketball court. I laid that all out in a previous message that must have been a waste of my time. Anyway that's the decider for me. Having hockey would be nice. If it never happens I still have my Zips hockey. But I think its a money pit for the U if they're trying to find acts for a gymnasium-size floor.

http://zipsnation.org/forums/topic/31430-downtown-arena/page-3#entry222523

No arena the size that Akron wants to build is going to book those shows. The WWE shows that play in smaller arenas aren't the headliner shows that play in the 20,000 seat arenas. The smaller arenas in smaller cities still book them. The sporting events played at Canal Park and Classic Park and All Pro Freight Stadium and Eastwood Field and the Pipe Yard aren't at the same level as those at Progressive Field. But they are sustainable here in NEOhio, with baseball teams that have been there for years. If you don't like going to Cleveland for shows, keep an eye on the Rocksino. http://www.hrrocksinonorthfieldpark.com/ (One more reason to not bank on filling a lot of dates with concerts,)

I was just throwing out a couple of examples. You really have to look at the events other arenas bring in during the winter. Some of those events run over 3-4 days. Just for shits and giggles lets say we book 5 of them, and fill 12 dates. Fair? Then figure in the other sports that can be played there. Indoor soccer. Stark and Summit counties had two successful indoor soccer teams AT THE SAME TIME. Add 12-24 dates (plus playoffs). Hockey. I could go on all day about how each of Cleveland's hockey teams were screwed and it had nothing to do with popularity. Except the Monsters, of course. Wooster, Ohio has hockey. Add in 34 or 36 dates plus playoffs.. Arena football, Canton had a team for several years. Add in 8 dates. Erie Insurance Arena is home to three sports teams. That's right, Erie Pa sustains hockey, D-League basketball, and arena football. Add in either hockey, or football+soccer, and we'll add 34 dates. That's a total of 46 dates. That's a LOT of concerts!!! Throw in the Zips' 14 or so dates, and you're VERY close to the Clovelli Center's break-even point, before you add concerts. NOW, let's look at how many dates you have to add to Akron's new gymnasium (a very nice, big gymnasium) to make up that difference. The Zips are good for 18 dates give or take. IF the Charge wanted to move to Akron, and IF they didn't have a long term lease with the CCC, they would add 25 more dates, A little math tells me you have to come up with 24 concerts to make up the difference. And,as you say, you';re competing against Blossom, The Q, The Wolstein, the downtown theatre, the two pavilions in Cleveland, the Rocksino, etc for those concerts. Good luck with that. If it's not going to be a burden to the taxpayers, or the University (in other words, the students and the taxpayers), you better be able to fill those dates, I can fill a lot more dates with all those options in front of me than you can with basketball and concerts.

1. Are the Zips making a "profit" now? We need something to compare with. 2. It won't be in competition with Youngstown's arena (or those in Toledo, Erie, Wheeling, etc) because the myopic planners are making the floor space too freaking small. You're not getting their (or any other)sports teams, the circus, Disney on Ice, or anything else that requires a full sized arena floor. Without all those acts, even IF the Canton Charge isn't contracted to the Civic Center long term and they want to move to Akron, you're looking at 24 dates. Add what, 14 for the Zips, and a handful of concerts, and earning a profit is a pipe dream. Whether or not you bring in a building manager to get your dates filled. Nobody here will address that obvious shortcoming, but there's no way in hell I'm voting for that. With or without the University tied to it.

Look at the events that arena holds. That arena was designed to host a wide variety of events. They didn't limit themselves by going with a ridiculously small floor size. The university is going to eat serious losses, for a handful of basketball fans who have never seen (or want to see) the sight lines of a modern multi-purpose facility.

The key selling point is the number of high misdemeanors and even felons who just go home or wherever because the jail is overfull.

Has the university checked out naming rights sponsors and hit up the alumni in an attempt to build their own gym errrrrr single-purpose "arena"? I haven't been contacted yet. They've been trying to get their hands in my pockets since I graduated (almost as much as they were when I was in school) but I haven't heard anything about a new gym yet.

How did the city finance Canal Park? Not that that's really related to this project, since the Canton-Akron Indians threatened to move before Akron announced CP (ala the Indians and the NFL). The Zips can't threaten to move. And the economy is a lot different than it was in 1996. With the design limitations all they have to sell is Zips basketball. Don't hold your breath.

Is it wrong to hope we don't get much publicity, because if we do there will be no place to sit at the retention basin?

Agreed. I see a lot of progress over the mess Rick Rembielak inherited.

Cool, the blockout is lifted.

I have Dish. I'm not going back to Warner just because the MAC signed a lame contract.

2-0 bottom of the 8th

Did anyone else see the 2nd baseman pull his foot off the bag at least a second before he caught the ball? Oh well, extra innings. Wish this was on radio, want to get outside.

Thank you

I'm not impressed. BTW, how are teams selected for the CWS? Does each conference get a bid, like in basketball? Or is it by rankings (popularity) like football?

Is Carlos Santana coaching the Buffalo infield today?

Very cool!!! I saw them play the Cleveland Caps back in the day in Solon.

I hope so, I can get the SEC's network...