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So your main complaint is that you don't find it fun to watch? I was hoping for a better breakdown, Keener. Did you miss the part of my post where I stated what the offense did during the 2016 OOC when we had an actual solid MAC QB throwing to solid MAC WRs? Would you prefer the Zips of now or the Zips of 2012? I enjoy watching a winning program.

I've been impressed with Brian Bell ever since he's been back this year. He seemed to always be a step behind or late last year. I haven't noticed it yet this season.

Just seems like we've always gotta complain about something. The first time i've heard the Mileee grumblings like this all year, and it comes after one of the best program wins in his tenure. I don't think he's perfect. I've tried telling everyone he called plays that first year everyone loves to talk about. I know first hand from a former GA and have provided articles with Bowden stating as such. Anywho, like I said he definitely isn't perfect. I don't agree with throwing it on 3rd and 2. I don't like that we didn't score a single point in the 2nd half, but it was enough to win the game. Lets take a look back at last year's OOC. We averaged 40 points a game with a healthy QB1 and Ball for 1.5 of those games. This includes a FCS team, Wisconsin, a 10 win/Sunbelt champ App State team, and setting the single game scoring record at Marshall, a record that I believe still stands, even with a Heisma winner-led Louisville going there the very next week. He doesn't seem to do too bad with some actual talent to work with right? Everyone can admit we lack playmakers on the offensive side of the ball. QB1 play has never been a real issue, which is his duty. What do they say...jimmies and joes are more important than Xs and Os. Looking back at the bowl season. The defense obviously carried us. Our best playmakers were Hundley, a converted LB playing WR for the first time and??? Frankly the only time he has stuck out to me this year was the 3rd down call and the 2nd half vs WMU, but like I said, it was enough to win the game.

Agreed. Part of what makes me hope Bowden finishes this year strong is that we seemingly have our best recruiting class to date and I don't want that to fall apart. Plenty of true fresh are playing and playing well this year with what they've been asked to do. I think we are starting to see some actual depth being established. I've done a lot of thinking about next year for whatever reason, and I don't really have any concerns. The Zips should be MAC East favorites imo. We return a lot/have guys with good potential. The one question mark will be QB, but I feel good about one of Kato or Ramart being able to get the job done.

I just don't see us having the offensive fire power to keep up with Toledo, as it seems the only way to beat them is in a shootout. someone mentioned their back up QB being from Hudson. That's my answer, Woodside being knocked out of the game early. They've got the MACs best QB, WR Corp (even with Thompson out), and a very good RB in Swanson.

Letuli stuck out in a bad way yesterday, but it seems like an anomaly compared to the rest of the season as he has been mostly good/above average. i think we can all agree that this isn't some giant win. Good to great win sure. Point is, I'm seeing a lot of alumni who never give a crap any other time show some excitement over it. I'd imagine it has to do a lot with WMU's 2016 season. Let's keep it up!

I'd agree. Still need to beat the teams we are supposed to beat though.

It was running into the kicker. The 5 yard penalty wouldn't have game them the first down. I'd imagine they were fine taking the 3 points rather than risk kicking it again or going for it on 4th.

He isn't doing too great with that 10 win team from last year in Minnesota. FWIW, Corey Davis' only offer coming out of high school was WMU. Terrell's offers were WMU and Kent State.

Ya'll done stroking each other off yet? I'd prefer to talk about the game and results and not a bunch of bullshit.

The margin of difference change from last years result to this years results was a +42 point swing in Akron's favor.

We are the first G5 team to beat WMU since 11/18/15.

I can see us getting both the BG and OU monkeys off our back this season. OU will be tough no doubt, but they haven't impressed me their last 3 games now.

I don't think they were going to get a play off regardless.

Toledo by 17. I've said all year I think they are in a league of their own. Nothing has happened to make me think otherwise.

Hell of a win. I could be doing a lot of "told ya so's" right now based on the WMU talk in the off season, but I'll hold my breath and let you grumps enjoy this win (if you have it in you). At least they played USC close though Go 'effin Zips!!!!

Whatever we do, we cannot give Phillips a chance to return it.

Need one more first down.........

Dig deep into that playbook Milwee! Ice the damn game!!

What a predictable play call!

Van Edwards in the game with the game on the line. Jesus.

This game can very well make or break our season. We need to pull out of the whole bag out tricks.

Hell of a play by Jamal Davis!

What a horrible drive.

I don't give a damn about burning clock. We need to score points. We don't know how to play with a lead.