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This sounds like the same thinking that got us Ianello. A positions coach at named locations. Names mean nothing. The ability to coach up talent does. Give me an FCS or DII coach.

This is true. Jason Taylor didn't transfer, nor did Charlie Frye, Chase Blackburn, Domenik Hixon, Dwight Smith..... Hopefully someone didn't put something in his head. Wags symbolizes hard work and is an important piece to this team. Sad day...

So hiring a noname coach from MSU or Toledo is going to get people excited? Let's not focus on this though.... ......Let's focus on the first paragraph. Normally, a paragraph as stupid as the first above is reserved for drunks posting in the early hours of the morning. Done with finals are we? I can't believe you're arguing that Paul Winters has more name recognition than any of the other coaching candidates. He has the least name recognition of them all. Pat Narduzzi is known to a half-million MSU fans as a guy who will almost certainly be a BCS head coach by the end of the decade. Mike Johnson is known throughout Los Angeles from working at UCLA and nationally from his time coaching in the NFL. The only people who know Winters are his former players and a few thousand people in the 'hood of Detroit. I know how much you love Lee Owens' old offense, but Winters is not the guy for this job and he never will be. He had his chances and came up just short, just like his offense constantly did. The name recognition argument has very little credibility once the NAME individual is no longer with a NAME school. The recognition is with the school more than anything. If you can't run an organized program, student-athletes will see through it (i.e. iCoach). People follow leaders. Winters has proven to be an excellent leader and someone I would be happy with at the helm of the Akron Zips Program. He has kids playing their hearts out. That is the atmosphere a leader can create.

Uh, Matt Campbell? No, actually Beckman LEFT .. he wasn't let go. The only example I can think of isn't in FB .. it was when KD was elevated to HC after Thunder Dan was released. Good call. KD was a late addition to the staff and had a little clout in his favor with a couple of HS players contemplating their next move. Back to the subject at hand. Winters has proven his ability of turning around and leading a program. He has also shown that he can coach at the D1 level check the DIG stats provided earlier or on a different thread.

There is a former coordinator out there who once had his offenses in the Top 10 nationally. This former coordinator has also taken a laughing stock from one of the worst teams in their division to the brink of playing in a national championship game. This coordinator has also coached in the MAC so he understands how difficult it is to win somewhere like Akron. Rumor has it, he has close ties to Akron as well. Not another William Riker. There also is a head coach who had his offense in the top 10 nationally. He has seen success as a head coach at a local lower division college. He has ties to many local high schools and a locally worshipped BCS school. He has even won at Akron before. Why aren't we discussing hiring him instead of one of his lackeys? Because given the chance to assemble an entire team, Owens was a failure at Akron. 40 wins in 9 years doesn't cut it regardless of how anyone wants to slice it. Winters has had success with what he had control over and shouldn't have what he didn't have control over held against him. Given control over an entire team, Winters has had success so when given the opportunity, he can put together an entire team. He had control over putting himself out in public to promote his offense and building his own reputation as a solid coach. If he had succeeded in these, we would have hired him instead of Brookhart. It's not just about calling plays. We need someone who can excite the community in more ways than putting a good product on the field, because at this point nobody goes to see the product or even keeps tabs on it through what little media coverage we get. He could get us to six wins in his first year and nobody would notice or care because they've already been jilted by Akron in the past and don't want to see what we have to offer now. I would like one example please where the head coach was let go and a coordinator under that coach was hired in his place. Winning excites the community. Winters has proven that he can take a program like Wayne State and LIKE Akron and turn it around and make it a winner. Uh, Matt Campbell? UT coach wasn't let go...he moved on.

There is a former coordinator out there who once had his offenses in the Top 10 nationally. This former coordinator has also taken a laughing stock from one of the worst teams in their division to the brink of playing in a national championship game. This coordinator has also coached in the MAC so he understands how difficult it is to win somewhere like Akron. Rumor has it, he has close ties to Akron as well. Not another William Riker. There also is a head coach who had his offense in the top 10 nationally. He has seen success as a head coach at a local lower division college. He has ties to many local high schools and a locally worshipped BCS school. He has even won at Akron before. Why aren't we discussing hiring him instead of one of his lackeys? Because given the chance to assemble an entire team, Owens was a failure at Akron. 40 wins in 9 years doesn't cut it regardless of how anyone wants to slice it. Winters has had success with what he had control over and shouldn't have what he didn't have control over held against him. Given control over an entire team, Winters has had success so when given the opportunity, he can put together an entire team. He had control over putting himself out in public to promote his offense and building his own reputation as a solid coach. If he had succeeded in these, we would have hired him instead of Brookhart. It's not just about calling plays. We need someone who can excite the community in more ways than putting a good product on the field, because at this point nobody goes to see the product or even keeps tabs on it through what little media coverage we get. He could get us to six wins in his first year and nobody would notice or care because they've already been jilted by Akron in the past and don't want to see what we have to offer now. I would like one example please where the head coach was let go and a coordinator under that coach was hired in his place. Winning excites the community. Winters has proven that he can take a program like Wayne State and LIKE Akron and turn it around and make it a winner.

I think the GA's can tell the recruits who will be coaching the Zips in 2012. But the recruits can't tell anyone what they've been told. I can't imagine any parent committing their son to play for a University where the head coach is completely unknown. Unless they are the world's biggest Vince Okruch fan. And we know that is Dr Z, so that's off the board. Like Dr. Z, I am a big fan of Okruch. So...now we have 2 3...Vince is awesome! By far one of my favorites on the staff during both the Brookhart and Ianello regimes.

According to College Football Talk - Toledo to announce its new head coach at a 7 p.m. ET press conference today.

OK, I had to go back and look at your history of posts on ZN.o. You have at least as many posts on ZN.o related to YSU and Youngstown as to the Zips and Akron. Also, this is not the first thread where you've accused others of "attacking" you for being a "realist." If you focused more on the Zips and Akron as opposed to YSU and Youngstown, and lost the attitude of others "attacking" you for being a "realist," you would fit right in as a Zips fan. Ohh so now I have to act a certain way? I brought up YSU and ytown per the discussion that was going on. I.E. I was born there and found a job after there. I grew up with Tressel's kids. I stay in contact with them today. I know what I'm talking about. This thread has gotten ridiculous.

RIP. No matter the circumstances, both were too young to pass. My condolences to the families.

8 for 8? But the coach didn't trust him enough to let him win the (Eastern?) game? We coulda had TWO wins! and that would have been the progress the AD was looking for, lol

And was on staff when Charlie Frye was here early in his career. Too me, this shows the guy has been around and can recognize D1 talent.

So in just 7 short years we will be competitive in the playoffs, that don't exist at the level we compete. Every season is a playoff for the Mid-American Conference Championship. Winters has success at bringing a program from the bottom up.

Agreed Moorhead was always a great guy. He would be nice to have on staff again but I don't know what his commitment to Akron would be. I want a coach that plans on staying here and building a program. I don't want a coach looking to job hop to the next position at first offer.

Latest tweet on the Akron Tressel search -- Jim Tressel spotted in the University of Akron student union 52 seconds ago

If today is happening, it has nothing to do with making an announcement. It has to do with continuing the conversation.

I bet he's going to be the punter for the Arizona Cardinals. I thought it was Einhorn?

Hilarious quote from this article: http://www.wvillustrated.com/story/1613451...on-game-preview "They throw like 70 percent of the balls inside," said Deniz Kilicli, "because they've got this dude, Zeke Marshall, and he's a tall dude. They throw the ball at him a lot, and he's a really talented guy. And the Serbian guy (Nikola Cvetinovic), he's a good shooter from like 15 feet in. They really understand how to play inside-out, so that's going to be a good challenge for us."

I was as shocked as you.

More rumors spinning - http://news-herald.com/articles/2011/11/27...s/nh4794124.txt

Here is an interesting write up on the UA/WVU game tonight - http://westvirginia.scout.com/2/1133222.html

Princeton senior OLB Daryan Martin (Akron commit) considering his options after Akron fired Rob Ianello

We should not repeat how it was done last time or we are doomed to fail again. We just can not fail this time! This hire is more important than just football. There was no search committee last time no matter what people are saying. TW said he had his man and went against board recommendation for a committee and it back fired. The search committee will happen TW will sit on it, but as far as him having the final say...he will do nothing more than announce it, take the credit and move one. His contract is up in September and he will not be renewed.

Ties to NE Ohio High Schools which would strenghten the recruiting efforts

Driving home to attend. The funeral is Monday.