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Is he your next door neighbor? Thanks for your typical valuable input. My pleasure. The real value in the post is there will be about 50 people who read it and get a kick out of the humor.

I don't believe for one second they didn't know, at the time, taking those bags was a violation. What they did is Compliance 101, not sr., jr. or even soph. level compliance. They learned it the first day. Rules are rules even when the rules are stupid. Whether or not they turned themselves in isn't the issue. The issue is the culture of non-compliance Tressel created. If they don't break the rules, they don't have to turn themselves in.

Is he your next door neighbor?

My biggest concern looking at this is the volume of points OU and Temple put up. Some other mac schools put up a lot of points as well. We put up zero points. College football is a game now of scoring a lot of points and making the other team keep up the pace. I don't see our style of offense ever putting up the volume of points needed to be really successful in 2011.

I don't think you heard him right. I think he was saying to stop with the charity and other events for a while and just focus on the players. Does anyone have a recording of the game? It happened late third quarter or in the fourth. If I remember right, it was about taking gift bags. tOSU players shouldn't stop doing charity events as it is important for them to support charity. They should stop breaking ncaa rules while at charity events.

Did anyone hear osu's next coach, Urban Meyer, just give his views on breaking the rules when he said they should tell the player to stop taking gifts, etc....for a while. Not forever, but for a while. One rule breaker replaces another.

My thoughts on the first half. Won't be posting on the second half because I'm going to the USC vs. ECU game and quite frankly, this game is over. Early in the game, the Zips defense was aggressive with blitzing and slants to the strong side of formations and the field. I would have done the same thing if I worked on the coaching staff. It didn't work out so well and after making an in game adjustment to less blitzing and LOS pressure, they played better. Our d-line is better than I thought it would be. Not great, but better than last year and made some decent plays today. I think this group will play better when MAC play starts. Our d-backs, when they aren't falling down, didn't play that poorly either. On the first osu TD, we slanted to the strong side and containment is needed by a DB and the guy missed the tackle of the QB. That's not good at all. One broke up a pass downfield and could have had an int so that was a good play. OSU QB is playing great. I am extremely disappointed in our linebackers. The d-line is not a disaster and they are missing tackles or getting carried for a few extra yards. They are not getting off of blocks. Not a good day by any of the LBs thus far. My biggest concern is how soft they play. I expected much more out of this group....that means you Mr. Wagner....get off of blocks and stop getting knocked on your butt by the fullback...you're the leader of the team now start playing like it. Punter is doing a good job. Kicker struck the ball well, just missed. Percentages go way down on 40+ yard FGs. Field position has not been our friend today and has been our #1 problem. A lot of that has to do with poor special teams play. What do I mean by poor? Keep in mind, the front five on KO return get a ten yard head start. The osu players are beating to the point where they turn around to block. Punt return is not holding anyone up at the line and the defeners are running free down the field. We need to get some faster guys on the kickoff return front line or we'll be starting every drive inside the 20. The offense. Urban Meyer thinks our offense is a joke and he is right. They don't do anything that might even resemble misdirection. Nothing is working so the only misdirection a pro offense has is play action. That is ruled out because the running game isn't working. No option...no spread...no nothing. It's not 1960. The offensive line is playing well. It's hard to complete passes when QB accuracy is poor or the ball is delivered too late. Moore never looks away from where he is throwing and this has to change. We don't send enough guys out for passes...it's like the offense we ran in the 80s when Faust was the coach. Philosophically, I've never like pro style offenses in college in the 21st Century and today is a good example of why. Too many penalties in the second quarter. Halftime is about over. Keep this in mind. It could be a lot worse right now. Don't worry about what happens in the second half. The game is out of control and the offense will be forced to throw all the time. That's not a good way to evaluate anything. We'll know a lot more after next week. Have a safe and fun weekend with your families and friends.

Well said. Most people with a sense of honor would take their $3 million and go away for a year. Tressel hasn't seen a microphone he could stay away from. My guess is he wants to cash in on this. He'll say what he wants to say in a book in a year or two so he can try to rewrite history. There will be a state full of dupes who buy it and put money in his pocket.

It depends on who it would be worse for. For the 50-60 teams in the other league, it would be a bank breaking improvement. For the rest of us, we would have to be creative as to how me move forward. I guess the question is...How much worse could it get for us in the ncaa?

There is a real good 30 for 30 about the USFL. The league was doing very well. Donald Trump and his ego were the driving force to compete directly against the NFL. Had they just stayed as a spring league, the league may still be in business today. I have a great memory about the usfl. When I was young, my father took me and my brother to see the Pittsburgh Maulers play the New Jersey Generals on Easter Sunday at Three Rivers Stadium. Hershel Walker and Doug Flutie played for the Generals at the time. There were a lot of guys who played in the USFL that went on to have Hall of Fame careers in the NFL. Reggie White, Jim Kelly and Steve Young come to mind.

Good luck Zips. To all of the fans, have fun and be safe.

History suggests otherwise. My brother works out with a Federal judge in Columbus before work every day. When all of this happened, he told my brother, "Tressel must be the most stupid SOB (he said the words, but since this is a family friendly board well go with SOB) in the world." Tressel was as smart as he wanted to be. One can be willfully stupid. Tressel knew what was going on around him for years and decided to not look into things to keep the appearance of his hands being clean and the saintly sweater vest wearing guy. More than anything, that is what makes him such a phony.

Kind of makes me wonder whether or not Roger Goodell will suspend Tressel for the first five games of the season like he did Pryor...

Had the usfl stayed as a spring league, it would still be around or the nfl would have absorbed it. Donald Trump of all people was the guy who pushed this so they could file a legal claim against the nfl. I think if the top 50 teams in college athletics left the ncaa, they would somehow be able to compete against the remaining teams while having their own league. Within a year, the league and TV contracts could all be established. It's not that hard.

Actually, under ncaa rules, self reporting is one of the best ways of not receiving any harsh sanctions. Cleaning house is the second best way. Are we really to pat osu on the back for self reporting everything? Wouldn't it be better if they just didn't break the rules in the first place? Sounds like their paranoia is justified. Like I said, when a culture is established, it is hard to change the culture. Self reporting is what they are required to do. Now that Tressel is gone, they can do the hard work of breaking the culture he created going back to when he was receiving written performance evaluations from his boss ten years ago for unacceptable compliance performance. It's going to be extremely hard work, but someone has to so it. I'd like to take this opportunity to wish the Zips well in their scrimmage against tosu tomorrow. Have the money wired directly to your account, don't take check...someone will probably lose it during the two hour trip from columbus to Akron.

:lol: That's what you get keeping the same staff from a major NCAA scandal. How dare they accept gift bags for appearing at a cancer charity event. What a bunch of idiots. While I don't agree with the rules, rules are rules. They are idiots for what they did. They know the rules...as well as a 21 year old can understand a 450 page ncaa rule book. The ncaa is full of idiots for rules like this. It's hard to break a pattern of bad behavior all at once. Their previous coach didn't seem to think rule applied to him, so why would his former players? He was a great example for them.

How long could it possibly take to create a body to oversee a new league. With fewer teams, it would take less people. God knows, there would be fewer rules to follow. I don't see it taking long. Leagues like the USFL, etc. were created in less than a year.

I'm not interested in the Zips being an opening act for a high school football game. Not many fans would be interested in sitting in The Big Dialer for six hours watching football.

I was not aware that was primary goal of college athletics. Try reading it again.

September 19, 1987 at the Rubber Bowl. It was a great night to watch a game. Pierce J. blocks a last second kick to secure a 17-16 victory against EMU who finished the season 10-2. It was the Zips first year in D-1A and the first win against a D-1A team as a D-1A team. EMU had a good team that year.

Getsy and Jabari couldn't be stopped. I remember a huge play by Harvey. Things didn't look so good in the second half and we really turned momentum around in the fourth.

So many good memories. Well done everyone. I'll add one more. Getsy's perfomance in the fourth quarter against NC State.

My esteemed colleague from Green brings up an interesting point here. I remember when Marshall said the goal of their program was to compete for championships. I didn't understand that then, but now I do. I remember how good I felt when the Zips won the MAC in 2005. Remember how good we all felt last March when the Zips beat Can't for the BB tournament? As a MAC fan, winning your college league championship is about as good as it gets, with the exception of Zips soccer. If we weren't in the same league as the BCS schools, I don't think I would feel any less of a sense of pride or fulfillment. If we were in our own level or affiliation with non-bcs teams, we could not only win our league, but play for a national championship. Imagine how much better that would feel than just winning the league. The excitement and anticipation of playoff games is really fun. Winning playoff games is even better....maybe even at The Big Dialer. It would be better than going to the Motor City Bowl. If we limit ourselves to the never ending circle jerk of the ncaa, we can never get to the point where we are fulfilled as fans. I think we can do better than the ncaa. I think college athletics, from top to bottom, would be better without the ncaa.

I would be in the not so smart group if I still lived there.

He doesn't bite the heads off of baby chickens....