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Remember we are dealing with all the information. I certainly would have broken it up knowing what we all know. But do we know what McQueary knew at the time? Actually, we do. McQueary's grand jury testimony shows he heard slapping sounds like people having sex. He walks in the shower and sees Sandusky raping a young boy with the boy's hands against the shower wall. There is no doubt as to what McQueary saw and he did nothing to stop it. In fact, he ran away like a scared child and told his daddy. He was 28 at the time.I have always heard there is a dark side to Paterno. My bet is a lot of the people around PSU are scared of the guy.

ArticleI find it interesting that some of the more thought provoking articles on this issue are written by women who don't cover sports for a living. Maybe it's because they don't take sports too seriously.

Bingo!!!I can honestly say that if I walked in on something like this when I was 28, there would have been a fight to the death. I would have killed Sandusky, or he would have had to kill me trying to save himself from me, but someone would have died. I have no idea how McQueary doesn't go into that shower with fists flying. Chain of command my foot.....

Maureen DowdInteresting take on this situation. One part I find very interesting. Since this story is all over ESPN, young children are hearing about it and maybe for the first time they are hearing words like "molestation". They get curious and then ask their parents what that word means. Now parents have to talk to their children about this issue years before they may want to talk to them about it or are even prepared to talk about it. This story is so f-ed up.....

I agree. This is a national tragedy and I don't think it is an overreaction to say so. In the back of my mind, I think, "If there were 9, there were probably 90". A very sad story.

Everyone, please refrain from Can't bashing for a minute. Can anyone give me a good reason why this is the case? It makes no sense to me.

We need a guy like Dambrot. Leavitt is not that guy as he doesn't really understand the mac and getting mac players. It is much more difficult than rounding up players in Florida.I'd go as far as to say the next coach will take on a much bigger problem than Dambrot took over. Save the facilities rants, there is simply zero talent on this football team. If all it took was facilities, we would be much better.

Or, it could impact your ability to become the all time winningest coach...

Hours or minutes?

I want the truth to come out in this matter no matter how bad it may be. I don't think the local authorities have the nerve to press an issue on Paterno. Since children were taken across state lines in some cases, it makes it a Federal crime. Paterno needs to sit in front of a Federal grand jury and answer some questions coming from the pricks that are Federal lawyers.

Or, he didn't want the issue to go any further so he kept himself in the dark about what was going so he could claim not to know later. It wouldn't be the first time we saw a high profile coach in the last 12 months keep himself in the dark.

The basis of the thread is about average points per game and the end result if we continue at our current average points per game. If we don't average more than 16.3 ppg the remainder of the season, we won't have more points this season than last season. I don't know if you have a language barrier or not, but this isn't that difficult

Odd...I was told Clayton Moore's passer rating is much better than what we had in 2010? How can we be scoring fewer points? We even have a better running game in 2011?We are not. Please consider the source. In 2010 we scored 121 points through 9 games and in 2011 we scored 138. The 2010 total included 13 OT points. Obviously GP1 was not a finance or math major.There is noting inaccurate about my facts.Are you saying mine are wrong?? I know you are not because mine are correct. You are just manipulating the facts to support your case. You are comparing averages of 12 games against 9 and we both know the 2 "pay" games are in the beginning and would skew the date in your comparison. Since you are wrong and we are on pace to score more...what does that mean to your analysis??The data is the data. If we continue on at our average points per game, we will not score more points than 2010. With only one home game remaining, I could see the Zips scoring less than 42 points in the last three games.

If there is a 1% chance of the deal happening, how much time should TW put into it?

Odd...I was told Clayton Moore's passer rating is much better than what we had in 2010? How can we be scoring fewer points? We even have a better running game in 2011?We are not. Please consider the source. In 2010 we scored 121 points through 9 games and in 2011 we scored 138. The 2010 total included 13 OT points. Obviously GP1 was not a finance or math major.There is noting inaccurate about my facts.

I'm not sure why they need to be regulated. Because a bunch a crappy conferences like the MAC can't play at the same level as other conferences? That isn't the fault of espn, that is the fault of the crappy conferences. They were all crappy long before espn came along and will all be crappy long after espn is gone.Lack of competition would be a good reason, but with espn, nbc/vs and cbs, there seems to be plenty of competition.How would the federal government regulate individual state schools? State schools are a state matter and not a federal matter. Seems to be a lot of work for no reason.Do we really want the idiots who brought us the current state of our Federal government to start regulating college athletics?

I respectfully disagree and it goes to this sentence. ESPN should not and cannot be regulated as they are a media outlet and they have First Amendment rights. All the do is broadcast games and it is up to the consumer to watch the games.

When something like this happens, a person should not lose curiosity with the issue beyond telling his boss. It's not like he heard the guy was stealing pens from the supply cabinet.

Altoona Newspaper ReportPaterno was looked by Grand Jury and nothing came of it. Still makes me wonder if he even followed up with the AD he told. Didn't he think it was strange a coach was caught having sex with a young boy in the team shower and the police never showed up to take away Sandusky? I'm looking forward to an FBI investigation into this matter. The state can't seem to get the job done.

Isn't the question... Have there ever been any good guys in the ncaa?

DeadspinThis is a truely awful story and this Deadspin article recaps the story. Very disturbing read. What a bunch of awful people still in charge at PSU. Paterno knew of crimes against children, didn't report them to the police...this may be a crime. Paterno needs to be investigated by the FBI since some of the crimes may have happened over state lines (also keeps the "locals" from looking past things) and possibly brought before a grand jury to explore criminal charges against him.

Joe Pa should be fired. Telling an AD is not what should have been done. Joe Pa should have called 911 and had the police come to take Sandusky away in cuffs. As for the other AD officials, please see my note in this section on the sleaze that works in college athletics.

What return were you expecting? It's an ongoing building process where results aren't necessary.

Is it really about faith in players or faith in knowing a mac team is more likely to blow a game than win a game. CMU blew the game last night while Can't was in the process of handing it to them. Can't is terrible. Spencer Keith is terrible (46% completion for the year). However, Can't will look like Alabama against Akron. Spencer Keith will look like Andrew Luck against Akron.

If the money is right, I'm sure he will be glad to walk away. Nobody is going to walk away from a $300K job.