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It doesn't matter what the rankings of teams are, it only matters what you do. What if the #2 teams are in fact not very good? tOSU is one of about ten darlings of voters. No matter what they do, they are always going to be highly ranked going into seasons. Schedule four cupcakes and walk through an easy Big Ten during their weekly punting festivals is how tOSU stays near the top. The illusion is much greater than the reality. Don't get me wrong, tOSU has good players and does what they have to do to win games in a bad conference and a cupcake OOC. The winning is what it is. I'm looking forward to tOSU having to play an SEC team this bowl season. It is usually a good reality check for tOSU fans. For me, my dislike for tOSU is has much more to do with their silly fans than the team itself. They produce a lot of really good NFL backup players....there, I said something nice about the players.

What about a guy who predicts the exact score of a game? What if ten guys predict the score exactly? Sometimes things are exactly as they appear.

DrZ.....it's a building process for crying out loud......

There is zero evidence to back this up. I know someone who know him personally and he was never interested in the job. It would be a pay cut. Can't would be a pay cut. Any offer he would have been made would have been countered by tOSU.

What you call apathy, I call sanity. Those people who call up WKNR day after day after day after day to complain about the Browns are actually insane. There is a certain person who loves turning on the radio or TV and hearing negativity (Limbaugh/Olberman type fans). I can't stand it myself and I wish the Zips were good so we could have some positive discussions on this board. Remember how great it was to post on this board when the Zips won the MAC and went to the Motor City Bowl? I'm not even mad at the Zips anymore....I'm just numb to the disaster they have become and in the worst way I want that to change. What keeps me numb is when I look at the leadership of the athletic department and the coach, I don't see the state of the football program changing in the foreseeable future. I really believe we are in big trouble in the next 3-5 years. That isn't negative, it's just me being rational about where we are and where we are going.....I say it without any emotion.

1. He was never REALLY interested in the job. 2. Good assistant coach? Maybe...he's more of a top assistant to an assistant. 3. What makes you think he would be a good head coach? 4. Why would he go to Can't? They might "consider" him, but he isn't considering them.

I with you. The only thing I can hang my hat of hope on now is the fact that the Miamioh coach won one game last year and may very well go to a bowl this season.

This station should call up CK and interview him once a week. I'm sure CK could break away from his desk or lock himself in his office for ten minutes. In other cities, people who own web pages are interviewed on a regular basis. One of my favorite web pages is Mondesishouse which is a Pittsburgh blog. He was a guy who started this blog and received a fan following because he had interesting things to say. He is now interviewed weekly on Pittsburgh sports stations. I'm sure CK knows more about UofA sports than these guys and if they just tossed softballs to him for ten minutes he could fill up the time. It really isn't that hard to do a ten minute interview.

It is also a little known fact that 95% of all Athletic Directors in D-1 athletics can trace their DNA back to these 18th century opportunistic pickpockets.

JD is a good example of what you are talking about. If he played his cards right, he could not work again next year and continue to live in his nice home in Summit County without any financial worries. I'm sure JD will pop up somewhere next year as an assistant.

I don't disagree. The problem with the "building process" in college athletics is (especially with UofA and the MAC in general) nobody ever defines the measurables as they relate to a winning timeline. If you were building a factory, your boss would force you to have a measurable time period in which you would have certain aspects of the factory completed and producing products. We never get that at UofA. For example, we had a building time frame that did not take into account results on the field. Call me crazy, but I want to see my team win and I don't care where they win or where they practice as long as they win. The fieldhouse had to be completed by a certain date and it did. Same for the Big Dialer. What was the time period for the team winning a minimum of six games on a regular basis and how were they going to do it? It's like we built a factory and had no idea what we were going to do with the building and production line when it was completed. Not only do we not know what to do, we hire people from different industries to run our factory (CoachI is a pro style coach in college). The mismanagement of this football program has been almost criminal for the past 20 years. We get soccer right. We get basketball right. We can't find our ass with both hands when it comes to the football program. It's what happens when you focus on the "building process" and not the "winning process". I've had enough losing.

I find it almost impossible to believe we can go winless. We are bad, but not as bad as our record shows. The Zips win this Friday in a blowout. Take it to the bank.

I understand what you are saying and I don't disagree. Let's go back one year. At some point, TW made a decision to fire JD and hire a new guy. Was it his intent to dismantle the program and bring in all new players or did he think they could win at least the same number of games as the year before with 17 returning starters? If his intent was to bring in CoachI to dismantle the team, he had to have an idea of how long it would take to rebuild the team...wouldn't he? Wouldn't he ask CoachI how long the dreaded building process would take? One year? Two years? Three years? JD won the MAC in his second season. A lot of coaches come to the MAC and have immediate success within two or three years. TW has been a terrible AD since the day he walked on campus. I don't know the guy personally so this isn't a personal attack. He is a terrible AD and should be removed sooner rather than later. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that if he decided to dismantle the program, he had no idea how long it would take to get the team back to winning at least six games. That is what makes him a terrible AD...he has no idea what to do or even how to start doing what needs to be done. There just isn't anything there. He would be a "C" player at General Electric and lose his job. It isn't just bad for UofA to have him in this job, it is bad for him and is immoral to keep a person in a position where he will have no success...that's why Dr. Proenza needs to act sooner rather than later.

In bold is what I really want to know. I'm at the point where I really don't care what they do to correct it as long as it gets fixed. I'm done paying attention enough to think about what they are doing to fix it. I will continue to pay attention from a distance and care about the results in terms of Ws and Ls. I'll get excited again when I actually see more results and less of a building process. 25 years of a building process is all I can take....I really mean this, I don't know how some of you pull youselves up to go to a game at this point.

Rumor has it the headline of tomorrow's ABJ will read, "Japanese Surrender".

Dr. Proenza wants a good team. His problem is he made a bad hire in TW and TW in turn made a bad hire in CoachI. If the problem started at the top, it needs to be fixed at the top. A lot is riding on the outcome Friday.

For me, it is less about what would keep me coming back and more about what would keep me away. If I lived in ne Ohio, I'd love to go to every game under one condition. That is, the team has to be watchable. I can put up with losing, but I can't put up with horrible football. I would go if the team showed signs of life and won at a minimum 4-6 games a year. I would probably hold off on season tickets if I still lived in Akron until I was somewhat comfortable my money wasn't going to be flushed down the toilet on a horrible product. I'd pick and choose which games I went to and if the team showed signs of life I would go to more and more. I don't think that makes a fan fair weather because I could still put up with a losing season, just not in this manner and quantity.

Someone else posted this on another thread, but I believe this guy deserves his own thread. This link will allow you to read an article by a guy named Mike who writes for Akron Sports Now. I don't agree with everything he writes, but I love the writing style. He is informed, interesting and can have a sharp pen. Akron sports needs a sports writer like this. The guys at the ABJ are either not interested in the Zips sports or they are bought by the University. Either way, it doesn't do much for the University. I hope this guy keeps on keeping on. Nice work.

I think that sports fans across America say something similar to this after attending an NBA game. Most teams really aren't very entertaining. I live 15 miles from where the Charlotte Bobcats play. I couldn't name a single player on their team and I've seen them in passing on TV a couple of time this year. Living in SC gives me a different cable company than the folks one mile from my house who live in Charlotte so I don't get the Bobcats games...speaking of poor marketing. Even if I did get their games, I probably wouldn't watch. They only get 5,000 per game at best and I could probably get free tickets from my wife's company. I have no desire to go. Charlotte has an AHL team called the Charlotte Checkers. The AHL is like AAA baseball. There are guys who have played in the NHL on Charlotte's team. AHL hockey is more entertaining than the NBA and they draw just as good as the Bobcats. The games are well played and fast moving....That's good entertainment.

How about if they just make shots without the harmony??? What are the other factors???

iCoach is a loser. Should never ahve wasted that last time out. What an idiotic decision. What in Christ's name does a time out have to do with a player fumbling?

I'll be the first to say I'm not a fan of CoachI. With that said, this one is not on him. The Zips hold a division leader to 19 points. They drive down the field and are in a position to win the game with plenty of time on the clock.....and #82 fumbles. Please tell me this is the kids senior season. I'm absolutely sickened by this outcome. As Zips fans, we have an ability to excuse away our ability to blow games. The BB team loses at Dayton....we are in a building process and the team just needs to gel. The Zips blow a winnable game against Miami in football...the Coach is to blame. If players make baskets and catch/hold on to the football, we win more. "The more things change, the more they stay the same."....ZipsWin! We choked this one away tonight. #82 should is the most unreliable receiver I can ever remember wearing a Zips uniform. Just catch the freaking ball and don't fumble..... Again, please tell me he is a senior.

Team chemistry is important. Shooting better than 36.7% from the field will be a better indicator of outcome. If they shoot at 50% against Dayton, they win. The little orange ball goes through the little orange ring..... It's a simple game. When you shot such a high percentage of your shots from 3 your shooting percentage is rarely going to get close to 50%. What is puzzling to me is that we actually shot better from 3 last night than we did overall. Tells me we need guys to work more on finishing around the rim. Teams like UCONN and Kentucky should be taking a lot of three point shots because they have the type of player that plays at UCONN and Kentucky. I can't ever remember a time when the Zips shot lights out on a regular basis. It just isn't their game. They are a team that has to work hard and outsmart the other team to win. Work the ball around and take (make) better percentage shots. It's a simple game.

Team chemistry is important. Shooting better than 36.7% from the field will be a better indicator of outcome. If they shoot at 50% against Dayton, they win. The little orange ball goes through the little orange ring..... It's a simple game.