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Very interesting! If we gave out awards for board members, DrZ would easily win the most underrated poster. Always good stuff. MSU would be making a big mistake though and not because the guy at UC is a bad coach. I think they have an even better candidate right up the Rt. 127 at Central Michigan. I haven't had the chance to look it up, but I believe CMU is in first place in the MAC West. If they win the MAC West and win the MACC and then win a bowl game, what else does the guy have to shoot for at CMU? He would have had a successful career at Grand Valley State outside of Grand Rapids and a successful short career at CMU. He should make a hard run at MSU.

Anyone have a clue? Johnson averaged 27.2 attempts per game in his run offense and Charlie averaged 29.0 in his first two years and 33.3 his last two. Those pesky facts always getting in the way.................................... You can use all the statistics you want, but I still think MJ was just as good as Frye and would have been just as successful if not more successful than Frye on Frye's teams. In defense of MJ, teams tend to throw the ball a lot in the fourth quarter when they are behind. MJ was always playing from behind and throwing late in the game to try to come from behind.Dancing around the calf is an internet term that I don't have time to explain right now. It's Biblical in nature.

I'll still take MJ.I'll give you the last word.

He did that already, leaving Pitt for Akron.Why do you see JD as such a quitter? What...three years into his rebuilding @ Akron...with a new stadium on the way...great facilities...two top recruiting classes...and he's off to be offensive coordinator at Colorado or Missuri? No chance.What makes him such a hot offensive coordinator commodity? His one bowl loss in a 7-6 season? The fact that his teams score in one or two quarters each game and disappear for the other two or three? Maybe it is his mastery of the red zone? Come on.He needs to prove himself at Akron and that will take a couple more years. .500 coaches at Akron who can't score points aren't on any "big time" school's hot list - be it a head coch position or as a coordinator. If Akron ultimately turns into a "coaches graveyard" for JD, he only has himself to blame. He'll have done no better than a Lee Owens, but with better facilities and recruiting tools. That's not so hot.I like JD. He's in year 3 of his program. The vast majority of the players he has recruited are Freshmen - either redshirt or 1st year. Thus he's still playing with a lot of the cards Lee Owens left him (And, Owens final few recruiting classes weren't all that stellar). Thus he should be judged accordingly. I want to, and likely will see what JD can do once the players are fully "his." I'm guessing Mack Rhodes does/will too. I don't see JD as a quitter. In fact, I think he is a real good coach. You must have been typing while I was typing my second post on this topic.Capt., you are an intelligent and logical man and you should not apply the two to college athletics. You'll drive yourself crazy doing so. Having a good enough name and reputation can get you a good job as an offensive coordinator regardless of the results. People can explain a lot in job interviews.The other thing is that these coaches have friends all over college football. There are only so many schools with so many coaches with so many coaching positions in college football. If the right coach fell in the right spot at the right time, JD could easily get another job as an offensive coordinator at the end of this year if he wanted to do so. A reputation at Akron has nothing to do with getting a job. My oldest brother coached at Maryland and he got the job because he knew someone on staff, not because of his coaching genius. All the coaches know the same things and it really is not what you know, but who you know. Really it is not different than any other job.I just tried to test myself in naming offensive coordinators around college football and I could only name two, Akron's and Buffalo's (coach Carr was the QB coach at Akron in the late 80s). The point is that nobody knows or really cares who these guys are or where they come from. I had been to several Pitt games the year before JD came to Akron and I had no idea who he was when they named him as coach. I just assumed Walt Harris called all the plays.

What exactly is your point? You're so results oriented. These are their respective stats at the qb position. Your statements are absurd. Mike was a good qb, Charlie has been our best qb to date by a country mile. Faust ran the ball continually as it was a different time in college football and he had a offense that was running back centered. Frye had QB centered offense, especially his junior year so he could more easily run up the statistics (with the exception of wins of course). Frye had way better players around him than Johnson did. In the end, neither won anything. I appreciate your statistics, but I'll stick with MJ as they don't tell the whole story.I just like to break up the party when everyone starts dancing arond the calf. Charlie is a starting QB in the NFL. Mike Johnson's skills never got him anywhere but the CFL and NFL Europe. 'nuff said. Cleveland is the only place in the NFL he could start.

I see your point. I should have been more clear.The gravitational pull of The Graveyard of Coaches is much greater than the gravitational pull of Cincinnati. The mass that creates the gravitational pull for Akron is lack of community support and alumni support. In fact, if the mass of our lack of community support and alumni support was actually real, a gram of it could create a black hole.If you look at the history of our coaches, the future was limited for them after Akron. For all the talk about Dennison being a great coach, he went nowhere after Akron, Faust....enough said, Owens.......Division II.I don't want to see JD leave, but I'm trying to put myself in his position. He is a young man with a young family he is responsible for supporting to the best of his ability. I don't know if I would be willing to take that risk.

What exactly is your point? You're so results oriented. These are their respective stats at the qb position. Your statements are absurd. Mike was a good qb, Charlie has been our best qb to date by a country mile. Faust ran the ball continually as it was a different time in college football and he had a offense that was running back centered. Frye had QB centered offense, especially his junior year so he could more easily run up the statistics (with the exception of wins of course). Frye had way better players around him than Johnson did. In the end, neither won anything. I appreciate your statistics, but I'll stick with MJ as they don't tell the whole story.I just like to break up the party when everyone starts dancing arond the calf.

That's right, he did it all himself. You are deluding yourself and I think it's really quite funny. How long did it take you to come up with the two girls crack? Truly one for the ages. Well done! Thank you! My pleasure.

I agree with a lot of your post, but if a coach doesn't have good players (talent), it doesn't matter how good they are.JD has an interesting choice to make in the next few months or 18 months. Does he stay at Akron and get sucked into The Graveyard of Coaches, or does he leave to be an assistant at a big time program? At this point, I don't see any reason for him to take the risk of staying. With little community and alumni financial support, he is going to be in a revolving door of replacing assistant after assistant. This is a very time consuming process. Mintier (sp?) had a similar problem at Cincinnati and it ended up hurting the entire program and getting him fired. He is doing a good job now at Norte Dame as defensive coordinator and if thing continue to go well for them he could get another chance at possibly a bigger school than Cincinnati.I think the smart move for JD at this point would be to cash in his chips and become a coordinator at a big time program or assistant in the NFL. Either way, there will be more money in it for him and probably more exposure.

How many other pearls of wisdom could we repost? You two girls can post whatever you want while taking breaks from your praying toward Cincinnati, but Luke is still the only QB in school history to win a championship. I'll take that any day. Results are the only things that matter.Mike Johnson played with absolute crap at Akron. He actually transfered from a JC that he went to after transfering from Arizona State after a family situation. The guy was a rock solid QB on a horrible team.Have a nice day girls.

Let's hope CJ has been working on that whole running thing since the last time we saw him.

Someone should come up with a ten excuses for Frye key to save people time typing. Each excuse could just have a number that people would place into their post when they feel the never ending desire to make an excuse for his lack of winning.Everyone remembers the passes people drop, but do they remember the fourth quarter interceptions in the end zone two weeks in a row, poorly thrown deep passes, taking too many sacks. I was at the game and the crowd groaned when the Browns ran on third and forever late in the fourth quarter. Romeo was not going to put the ball in Frye's hands late. Charlie is a big boy now and needs to be held accountable for the mistakes he makes. There is plenty of blame to go around for the Browns season so far and Frye needs to take some of the blame also.

Good post CK.These two points go hand in hand. Stay tuned for a year end post on why this defense is so bad.Watch Louisville pound the ball down WVU's throat this Thursday with a back up tailback and you will see why this defense is starting to become exposed around the country by good running games. Gimmicks have a very short shelf live. Remember the run & shoot?

Good point. Where is it written in stone that we have to play that defense on every down or in every game?Can't we look at film and say "hey this team has a very weak passing game, maybe this game we play the 4-3 and get some more big guys in there" Maybe we can adjust at half time and switch defenses, or a few series to seehow the offense reacts. I know I'm in the minority, but I thought our defense played bad last week.I know the stats and score looked great, but I saw too many bad defense plays. Thank you!Good question as to why we don't change midgame. It's not as easy as it may seem. This change has to happen in the off season and I don't think it will take a lot to do. Jim Flemming is a good coach and has been around the block. I'm sure he can do it if he stays at Akron. Stay tuned for my season ending post on this topic.

Good points. However, the longest streak of winning seasons Frye had was two. His first and second seasons were losing records. His junior year they went 7-5 but two of those wins were against I-AA teams and his senior season (6-5) was saved by Brett Biggs.Like all bad high school coaches, Lee Owens hung his career on one player. How did that work out for him?

It all works together. The defense we currently deploy is not working. I'll save wear and tear on my fingers until the end of the year on this topic as I am gearing up for a rather large post on this issue.

Are you old enought to remember Mike Johnson in the late 80's? Many fans have blocked out the Faust years, but there were some great players who played for him here.

100% correct.In my opinion, there is one more topic that nobody touches upon that is the most critical in our problems this year. I will post about it after the season because during the season it is too late to make the change. As a hint, the topic will be the 3-3-5 defense and how and why everyone plays well against this gimmick now.You can tune into ESPN this Thursday to watch Louisville expose the 3-3-5 for being a bad defense when they destroy West Virginia with a very good running game.

And you think Frye would be playing well otherwise? Many of his mistakes have been when he's had plenty of time...you can only blame the o-line for so much...You are wrong. Without an offensive line what can happen other than mistakes, injuries and losses? It is impossible to blame the o-line enough! So you think with a decent line Frye wouldn't be doing as poorly as he is? Honestly? sgm405,You are absolutely right. Frye is what he is. Don't waste your time. These guys spent four years while he was at Akron making excuses for the guy. Nothing is ever his fault. If it's not play calling, it's the o-line or it's the defense or the receivers can't catch or there is no running game. The excuses go on and on and on and on.

Trust me, you are! Thank you for your support. I ask for your vote on November 7.

.......and I thought I was the biggest blow hard on the board. I think the facts I posted speak for themselves based upon your criteria and I stand by my analysis.It's only a web board and not the old Roman Senate. Don't take yourself so seriously. It makes it a lot more fun to post.

Stick with me here ZA, I'm here to help.If this is necessary for the full story, JD's career has already been a success. Year one, thanks to Brett Biggs, we competed for the MAC East until the final game when we lost to Miami the last game of the season and came in second. Year two we won the MAC East. In year three, we are not out of the race yet. We are competing for the MAC East as is.Pssst, Psssst, Psssst, we won the MACC and went to a bowl game last year. We could have seven wins this year and go to another bowl game.JD has already met or is meeting all of your criteria for success.If you really want to set a high standard for success in the MAC, the standard should be first or second in the division and minimum 8 wins annually. I think that is a fair standard.Johnnyzip84 is absolutely correct, the program is heading in the right direction and JD is a good coach. Some of you should be careful of what you wish for.......you might just get it.

For away games, I try to recommend places to go for fans before the game if they are not interested in tailgating. Here are a couple of things to do food and drink related.If you want to go to one of the best steak houses in the midwest, there is a place off of I-75 and Phillips Avenue (make left off is exit and drive until you reach it on the left) called Mancy's. There is also one down by Maumee off of the I475 turnpike exit, but the original is really neat on Phillips.If you just want some finger food and some beers, there is a place called Jeds also off of the I-475 exit. Great sports bar and they have the Jeds girls serving food and drinks. I recommend an appetizer called Fireballs. They are little chunks of white meat chicken breaded and deep fried with your choice of BBQ sauce. One of the best appetizers I have ever eaten. The other advantage is the smoking section is completely enclosed so the stench stays where it belongs. Maybe someone from Toledo could help me out with the street name as I know where it is but don't know the street.Can't go wrong with a trip to Tony Pako's hot dog shop. There are plenty around Toledo and the hot dogs are great. The original klinger used to talk about on MASH is off of I-280.That's really about it. Most of you will probably drive to I-475 so there are plenty of chains around there if you are hungry.Vote No on Issue 4 and vote yes on Issue 5.

I would NOT be surprised if JD went to another job after this season. I would be surprised if he stayed past next season. Working in a high turnover profession, I have a sixth sense for when someone is about to change jobs and I'm starting to get a strange feeling about this happening sooner than later.I think the days of coaches leaving MAC schools to go to really big time programs are over (the next best shot is the guy at CMU going to Michigan State after this season if MSU fires Smith). I don't see CSU as a "really" big time program so it would not be a stretch for JD to go there, but didn't CSU just recently hire a new coach? JD should take a lesson from the UofA softball coach who left last season to be an assistant at Wisconsin and try to get with a Big Ten, SEC, PAC 10 type school as an offensive coordinator and then move up from there. It would be better exposure and better money.As far as Akron getting a coach with prior head coaching experience, that would be nice, but probably will not happen. The pay is too low. If memory serves me correctly, someone told me that half the people applying for the job previously were high school coaches who were misguided enough to believe they could do the job. The other half were mostly D-1A assistants like JD looking to take their shot. The next coach we get will be JD II.I just don't understand why some are so eager to give up on JD. He will have seven wins at the end of this season which will give him a career winning record at Akron. Seven wins might even give us a bowl game. In the D-1A era, Faust and Owens didn't come close to a .500 winning percentage.

NFL games are won on big plays. Examples are an INT for a TD, a long kick return for a TD or even a long pass for a TD. A team only gets about four per game. All the other plays are just time consumers until the big play happens or a set up for the big play.The problem Frye is developing is that he does not throw the ball down field consistently well enough to be considered a threat by the other team. I'd love to see a competitors scounting report of him. My guess is it would say the same thing. Not that the Browns have a good offensive line, but please save me the crap about them because when he has had a chance to throw down field, most have been poorly thrown.The best thing Frye has going for him is his ability to throw short passes and run for his life. He is very good at both. No other QB on that team can come close to doing these things. However, these things don't win games and time and injury will reduce his ability to run. Time ticks very fast for guys like Frye. God bless him though, he will make a nice living while he can.On a MAC note, I see that Yunzer Gradkowski is on the list. Knowing Yunzers the way I do, he was probably happy to sign a contract that pays each day a plate of kielbasa, sauerkraut, mashed potatoes and a salad of iceburg with French dressing. As a winning bonus, he probably gets pirogues in lieu of mashed potatoes. 2-0 is a good start.