ZachTheZip Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 http://www.collegeinsider.com/tournament/A fourth postseason tournament. There's absolutely no excuse not to play in the postseason now, and the experience would be invaluable for our young team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Well...since this brings the number of post-season bids up to somewhere in the neighborhood of 150, I sure hope we'll always be in that mix...even in a down year. My other thought is...this probably means that EVERY team from EVERY BCS conference is probably assured of a post season bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Well...since this brings the number of post-season bids up to somewhere in the neighborhood of 150, I sure hope we'll always be in that mix...even in a down year. My other thought is...this probably means that EVERY team from EVERY BCS conference is probably assured of a post season bid.With any luck we will be matched up against YSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I checked to see if the College Basketball Invitational was still going this year, and it looks like it is (see Link) with 16 teams once again.CBI BracketNow as far as these additional tourneys further assisting BCS conference teams, I'm not so sure about that. The CBI's selection criterion is somewhat nebulous, but the CIT's stated criteria (below) would seem to favor mid-Majors.Eligible Teams: Participating teams must finish the regular season with a winning record against division I opponents. Teams whose conferences have less than fifty-percent (50%) of their teams participating in the NCAA and NIT tournaments will be given higher priority for selection into the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Johnnyzip....very interesting. This would seem to indeed indicate that many "lower" conferences will get plenty of bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 CIT Fever, BAY-BEE!! OU played in that lame tourney last year. They paid $60,000 to get a home game (that's how that tourney stays alive, shaking down desperate mid-majors). On one hand, the CIT is for lepers. On the other, I'm sure Travis and Joyce would rather have played a bunch of lepers in a tourney rather than have their careers end the way they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I follow sports pretty closely and I had no idea this tournament existed. I actually started to laugh when I read about it (I laugh at the NIT also, but that is another topic). I know a lot of you probably think this tournament would be a great chance to "grow" the program or it is a great chance for "building", but it isn't. Making this tournament is not a step forward for a program, it is a step backward and a cause for laughter. Never put your program in a situation where it becomes a cause for laughter. The Zips would be better off not making it than making it. How many people around Akron when reading the ABJ headline, "Zips to play University of X in CIT" would think to themselves..... "There goes the ABJ again. Not only do they not know the Zips did not make the NCAA or NIT, but the misspelled NIT." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I checked to see if the College Basketball Invitational was still going this year, and it looks like it is (see Link) with 16 teams once again.CBI BracketNow as far as these additional tourneys further assisting BCS conference teams, I'm not so sure about that. The CBI's selection criterion is somewhat nebulous, but the CIT's stated criteria (below) would seem to favor mid-Majors.Eligible Teams: Participating teams must finish the regular season with a winning record against division I opponents. Teams whose conferences have less than fifty-percent (50%) of their teams participating in the NCAA and NIT tournaments will be given higher priority for selection into the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament.The tournament is sponsored by CollegeInsider.com who puts out the MidMajority site that Kyle Whelliston does. It appears that this is a way to let overlooked mid-major programs have something to reward a good regular season. Whether it is worth it financially is another matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 gp i disagree in this one.how is this tourney any different than some of the bowl games the mac plays in.so the football team would be better off not accepting a bowl bid because it the international bowl.from your point of view i guess it's better to win 26 games, and stay home.i doubt any of players,or coaches on that team would agreee with you.i think most zips fans would agree also.we all know you don't like kd;so this is just another way to gripe.you only post about b-ball when the zips lose,or have something negative to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 gp i disagree in this one.how is this tourney any different than some of the bowl games the mac plays in.so the football team would be better off not accepting a bowl bid because it the international bowl.from your point of view i guess it's better to win 26 games, and stay home.i doubt any of players,or coaches on that team would agreee with you.i think most zips fans would agree also.we all know you don't like kd;so this is just another way to gripe.you only post about b-ball when the zips lose,or have something negative to say.You are extremely confused Racer. Football bowls pay the teams to play, they don't charge them to participate. The CIT is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 There appears to be some confusion here. OU paid to play in the CBI last year.This CIT is new this season.Akron was one of 94 teams in the NCAA & NIT last season. That's 94 out of some 340 D1 teams. A little bit different than being one of 68 bowl teams among 120 1A FB teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RACER Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 zipmiester.i think you are confused about mac schools making money on bowl games.the bowls do pay out $ to each school.most d-1 schools make nothing on bowl games.especially when you addtravel cost,and have to split $ with other teams in the conference.so what if cost ou 60k to host a tourney game.we paidwyoming to come to the jar.you don't think teams like duke,and carolina pay teams to come to thier place. if you want exposure for your school it cost money.it cost money to run any athletic program.all mac football schools lose $,or break even.you act like football is a cash cow.plus this tourney is totall new.do you know if teams will have to pay money for a home game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 gp i disagree in this one.how is this tourney any different than some of the bowl games the mac plays in.so the football team would be better off not accepting a bowl bid because it the international bowl.from your point of view i guess it's better to win 26 games, and stay home.i doubt any of players,or coaches on that team would agreee with you.i think most zips fans would agree also.we all know you don't like kd;so this is just another way to gripe.you only post about b-ball when the zips lose,or have something negative to say.You are extremely confused Racer. Football bowls pay the teams to play, they don't charge them to participate. The CIT is a joke.That bowls pay their teams is somewhat of a fallacy. Sure the upper echelon are paid but the majority do not. I got this straight from Steve French. Bowls like the Motor city bowl gave Fla Atlantic and CMU $0 in cash. What they do give them for the reported $750000 is approx 17000+ $45 dollar tickets as their allottments. Whatever the schools sell is what they make. Florida Atlantic sold in the neighborhood of 200 tickets, and then spent upwards of $200,000 to charter flights, book hotels, throw parties, etc. Im sure Cmu did better than that but still made no money. Its simply exposure you get and that may be worth the expense! Remember- those bowls are like 3 /4 hour commercials on natl sports channels. I for one agree Id rather be playing in something/anything in the post season, with a legitimate chance to win and advance. Rather than the season ending on a lucky 3 pointer by Penno!!!!! Lets be realistic, As great as NCAA tournement is its like a 1 and done if youre a 15 or 16 seed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 There appears to be some confusion here. OU paid to play in the CBI last year.This CIT is new this season.Akron was one of 94 teams in the NCAA & NIT last season. That's 94 out of some 340 D1 teams. A little bit different than being one of 68 bowl teams among 120 1A FB teams.My bad.Does the CIT get the CBI's table scraps, or will they compete for teams?I did like the CBI's Best-2-of-3 finals format. More basketball is always good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 ..... Lets be realistic, As great as NCAA tournement is its like a 1 and done if youre a 15 or 16 seed!I'd be content to see a 15 or 16 seed Zips team have an opportunity to play a team like Pitt in the first round, and perhaps have a chance to put together a whole game like the 2nd half the Zips already played against Pitt this season. A strong showing against a high seed in the first round is a good way to start earning national respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Zips on the Radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 NCAAs or bust. I have no interest in anything else. It's called the Big dance for a reason.All you have to do is win the MAC tourney. How hard is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infofan Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 ..... Lets be realistic, As great as NCAA tournement is its like a 1 and done if youre a 15 or 16 seed!I'd be content to see a 15 or 16 seed Zips team have an opportunity to play a team like Pitt in the first round, and perhaps have a chance to put together a whole game like the 2nd half the Zips already played against Pitt this season. A strong showing against a high seed in the first round is a good way to start earning national respect.True Dave, a shot at Pitt or OSU might be nice but more likely wed be sent packing to Spokane or Tuscon against w #1 or #2 from out there. No chance for the average fan to follow the team or have a good shot to advance. The NIT, or other post game tournements arent perfect but lets not dismiss the thought till after March 14th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 somebody can't do math.... 129 out of 343 is "almost 1/3" of division I teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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