Erick Howard

[GP1]

Howards baby momma gave birth to his child a week or so ago. Just one more reason that he will never see the field for anybody.

You'd be surprised how many student-athletes have kids.

I'm sure your right about that. I just don't understand why this kid is making things difficult for himself. A baby is just one more obstacle and distraction.

He has talent, but I question his work ethic and priorities.

If he backs up the girl and kid the way he needs to, and never sees a D1 FB game, seems to me his priorities are fine.

Isn't backing up the girl what got him into this trouble in the first place?.?.......

[GP1]

Howards baby momma gave birth to his child a week or so ago. Just one more reason that he will never see the field for anybody.

You'd be surprised how many student-athletes have kids.

Not if you think it is still the 1950s.

[Zipmeister]

Howards baby momma gave birth to his child a week or so ago. Just one more reason that he will never see the field for anybody.

You'd be surprised how many student-athletes have kids.

Not if you think it is still the 1950s.

???????

[GP1]

Howards baby momma gave birth to his child a week or so ago. Just one more reason that he will never see the field for anybody.

You'd be surprised how many student-athletes have kids.

Not if you think it is still the 1950s.

???????

Since you ask........ I sometimes get the feeling that we have a group of Puritans posting on this board who believe that any sign of what they see as immoral behavior should be cause for stoning. They live in a world where if a kid gets a girl pregnant in high school, then that is a sign of bad character. I'm sure that if the sex odds had turned out different for a lot of us, we might have been in the same position as Mr. Howard in high school.

[Zipmeister]

Howards baby momma gave birth to his child a week or so ago. Just one more reason that he will never see the field for anybody.

You'd be surprised how many student-athletes have kids.

Not if you think it is still the 1950s.

???????

Since you ask........ I sometimes get the feeling that we have a group of Puritans posting on this board who believe that any sign of what they see as immoral behavior should be cause for stoning. They live in a world where if a kid gets a girl pregnant in high school, then that is a sign of bad character. I'm sure that if the sex odds had turned out different for a lot of us, we might have been in the same position as Mr. Howard in high school.

I believe you have the Puritans confused with Muslims, and your explanation does not address the "connection" between confusion regarding the correct identity of the current decade and being surprised about how many student athletes have kids.

[RootforRoo44]

Howards baby momma gave birth to his child a week or so ago. Just one more reason that he will never see the field for anybody.

You'd be surprised how many student-athletes have kids.

I'm sure your right about that. I just don't understand why this kid is making things difficult for himself. A baby is just one more obstacle and distraction.

He has talent, but I question his work ethic and priorities.

If he backs up the girl and kid the way he needs to, and never sees a D1 FB game, seems to me his priorities are fine.

Good luck to them all.

Go Zips.

++ on that!! But I bet one guy in a grey vest won't necessarily agree.

I'll take that bet.

I think Jim Tressel would be the first person to tell him that his family is his FIRST priority. From everything i've heard, Tressel is a good person and not your average D1 cutthroat football coach.

With that said, screw the Buckeyes.

[Dave in Green]

..... Since you ask........ I sometimes get the feeling that we have a group of Puritans posting on this board who believe that any sign of what they see as immoral behavior should be cause for stoning. .....

Then there's the group of extremists on the other side who are willing to overlook all bad behavior as irrelevant as long as they get some kind of personal gain out of it.

Extremists tend to portray everything in black and white terms of pure good or pure evil. In reality, most people and most things are shades of gray that need to be analyzed in fine detail and dealt with proportionately.

Moderates have a more balanced view. They understand that everyone (including themselves) makes mistakes, and that we're all imperfect. They are tolerant of minor indiscretions, knowing they've been guilty of their own share. But they become increasingly less tolerant when a pattern of bad behavior develops, and there's no sign of remorse or effort to improve.

I've seen nothing about Erick Howard that suggests he should be either stoned or handed the key to the city. Like most of us, he's still a work in progress.

[GP1]

Extremists tend to portray everything in black and white terms of pure good or pure evil. In reality, most people and most things are shades of gray that need to be analyzed in fine detail and dealt with proportionately.

Moderates have a more balanced view. They understand that everyone (including themselves) makes mistakes, and that we're all imperfect.

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Moderates have no opinions, that's why they are moderates.

Let's see. Like so many, kid has sex in high school. Sperm finds it way to egg and fertilizes the egg. Nine months later, girl has child.

How many of us could that have happened to? How many on this board looking down their nose at this kid could that have happend to in high school? That's my point. It has nothing to do with the kid in question.

I'm not sure about the gray area in science or the probability/outcome factor.

[Dave in Green]

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists.

Moderates have no opinions, that's why they are moderates.

Moderates have opinions, but they also understand that opinions are formulated by humans, and since all humans are imperfect, so are their opinions. Extremists believe that only those humans with differing opinions are imperfect.

[UADavid]

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists.

Moderates have no opinions, that's why they are moderates.

Moderates have opinions, but they also understand that opinions are formulated by humans, and since all humans are imperfect, so are their opinions. Extremists believe that only those humans with differing opinions are imperfect.

+1

[GP1]

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists.

I think you confuse being a moderate with being open minded. An extremist can be open minded as well. William F. Buckley was a solid conservative, but was open minded enough to discuss his ideas with those he didn't agree with. Byron York is a modern day Buckley.

[g-mann17]

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists.

I think you confuse being a moderate with being open minded. An extremist can be open minded as well. William F. Buckley was a solid conservative, but was open minded enough to discuss his ideas with those he didn't agree with. Byron York is a modern day Buckley.

Boy is this off topic.

I'm pretty sure that open minded means a person is willing to accept an idea or opinion that is not his own.

Which means the left and right extremes are not open minded, and moderates and the "dreaded flip-flopper" are the most open minded. Pretty sure that is what intelligent people are supposed to do, get information for and against something and then make a rational decision.

[Dave in Green]

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists.

I think you confuse being a moderate with being open minded. An extremist can be open minded as well. William F. Buckley was a solid conservative, but was open minded enough to discuss his ideas with those he didn't agree with. Byron York is a modern day Buckley.

By definition, a political moderate is generally open to a wider range of ideas from both the left and the right than a political extremist, who typically follows primarily far left or far right beliefs. William F. Buckley Jr. was an intellectual conservative who evolved away from his early extremism (support of segregation and McCarthyism, for example). He was more moderate and less extreme in his later years, becoming an eloquent spokesman for mainstream conservative principles that are accepted by many moderates.

[GP1]

Like most of your posts, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

Sorry, I forgot to mention that moderates are more subtle than extremists.

I think you confuse being a moderate with being open minded. An extremist can be open minded as well. William F. Buckley was a solid conservative, but was open minded enough to discuss his ideas with those he didn't agree with. Byron York is a modern day Buckley.

By definition, a political moderate is generally open to a wider range of ideas from both the left and the right than a political extremist, who typically follows primarily far left or far right beliefs. William F. Buckley Jr. was an intellectual conservative who evolved away from his early extremism (support of segregation and McCarthyism, for example). He was more moderate and less extreme in his later years, becoming an eloquent spokesman for mainstream conservative principles that are accepted by many moderates.

By whose definition?

[Dave in Green]

By just about every source that deals with definitions. Try any of the online dictionaries, Wikipedia, etc., etc.

[zippy42]

By Bill Greene

Ohio recruiting analyst

Posted Aug 4, 2010

The saga of Erick Howard appears to be just beginning, rather than ending, as the talented tailback has decided to not enroll at Akron, preferring to attend Fork Union Military Academy. Howard, one of the top players in Ohio for the 2010 recruits, is hoping to go through the recruiting process again January. Bill Greene spoke to Howard's high school coach to get the latest.

Erick Howard, of North Canton Hoover HS, finished the 2009 season as one of the top runningbacks in Ohio high school football history, capturing back-to-back Mr. Football awards.

Because of academic concerns, Howard committed to Akron, and was set to join the Zips as a non-qualifier, hoping to become eligible in 2011, but there has been a change in plans.

"I spoke to Erick yesterday, and he told me he is all set to join Fork Union Military Academy," North Canton Hoover head coach Don Hertler stated. "He will report to Fork Union on August 28th. He worked out with us yesterday, and it's pretty apparent he's not in football shape, but he has a few weeks to get that turned around."

Howard spurned an offer from the Zips in order to raise his academic profile, and go through the recruiting process this January.

"Erick was very, very close to qualifying, and if he does well he will be eligible after a few months at Fork Union, not the entire year," Hertler stated. "He could end up back in Akron, but we have to see. There are a lot of schools interested in him, schools like Cincinnati, Louisville, North Carolina, Auburn, and many, many others."

"His talent intrigues a lot of coaches, and he's a likeable kid," Hertler stressed. "Once you meet him in person, you fall in love with kid. His problem was maturity, and he's not a bad kid at all. If he qualifies academically, he can play anywhere in America, because he's THAT good."

One unlikely destination for Howard is Ohio State, although that is not totally ruled out, according to his former head coach.

"Erick was given a plan to get a scholarship from Ohio State, and he didn't get it done academically," Hertler explained. "Is that door still open to Erick? That's tough to say, because in this business, schools roll on without any one player. I will say that Jim Tressel has always been intrigued by Erick. He likes him as a person, and he was intrigued about what Erick could bring to his program. Don't write that there's a good chance at all, but it's accurate to say there is a chance he could sign with Ohio State in January, and be counted in with the 2010 class."

[Hilltopper]

By Bill Greene

Ohio recruiting analyst

Posted Aug 4, 2010

The saga of Erick Howard appears to be just beginning, rather than ending, as the talented tailback has decided to not enroll at Akron, preferring to attend Fork Union Military Academy. Howard, one of the top players in Ohio for the 2010 recruits, is hoping to go through the recruiting process again January. Bill Greene spoke to Howard's high school coach to get the latest.

Erick Howard, of North Canton Hoover HS, finished the 2009 season as one of the top runningbacks in Ohio high school football history, capturing back-to-back Mr. Football awards.

Because of academic concerns, Howard committed to Akron, and was set to join the Zips as a non-qualifier, hoping to become eligible in 2011, but there has been a change in plans.

"I spoke to Erick yesterday, and he told me he is all set to join Fork Union Military Academy," North Canton Hoover head coach Don Hertler stated. "He will report to Fork Union on August 28th. He worked out with us yesterday, and it's pretty apparent he's not in football shape, but he has a few weeks to get that turned around."

Howard spurned an offer from the Zips in order to raise his academic profile, and go through the recruiting process this January.

"Erick was very, very close to qualifying, and if he does well he will be eligible after a few months at Fork Union, not the entire year," Hertler stated. "He could end up back in Akron, but we have to see. There are a lot of schools interested in him, schools like Cincinnati, Louisville, North Carolina, Auburn, and many, many others."

"His talent intrigues a lot of coaches, and he's a likeable kid," Hertler stressed. "Once you meet him in person, you fall in love with kid. His problem was maturity, and he's not a bad kid at all. If he qualifies academically, he can play anywhere in America, because he's THAT good."

One unlikely destination for Howard is Ohio State, although that is not totally ruled out, according to his former head coach.

"Erick was given a plan to get a scholarship from Ohio State, and he didn't get it done academically," Hertler explained. "Is that door still open to Erick? That's tough to say, because in this business, schools roll on without any one player. I will say that Jim Tressel has always been intrigued by Erick. He likes him as a person, and he was intrigued about what Erick could bring to his program. Don't write that there's a good chance at all, but it's accurate to say there is a chance he could sign with Ohio State in January, and be counted in with the 2010 class."

Not to brag, but I told you so! Here is the Fork Union Military Academy football roster. No Erik Howard. This is not a surprise to me, he never was interested in academics.

[Buckzip]

By Bill Greene

Ohio recruiting analyst

Posted Aug 4, 2010

The saga of Erick Howard appears to be just beginning, rather than ending, as the talented tailback has decided to not enroll at Akron, preferring to attend Fork Union Military Academy. Howard, one of the top players in Ohio for the 2010 recruits, is hoping to go through the recruiting process again January. Bill Greene spoke to Howard's high school coach to get the latest.

Erick Howard, of North Canton Hoover HS, finished the 2009 season as one of the top runningbacks in Ohio high school football history, capturing back-to-back Mr. Football awards.

Because of academic concerns, Howard committed to Akron, and was set to join the Zips as a non-qualifier, hoping to become eligible in 2011, but there has been a change in plans.

"I spoke to Erick yesterday, and he told me he is all set to join Fork Union Military Academy," North Canton Hoover head coach Don Hertler stated. "He will report to Fork Union on August 28th. He worked out with us yesterday, and it's pretty apparent he's not in football shape, but he has a few weeks to get that turned around."

Howard spurned an offer from the Zips in order to raise his academic profile, and go through the recruiting process this January.

"Erick was very, very close to qualifying, and if he does well he will be eligible after a few months at Fork Union, not the entire year," Hertler stated. "He could end up back in Akron, but we have to see. There are a lot of schools interested in him, schools like Cincinnati, Louisville, North Carolina, Auburn, and many, many others."

"His talent intrigues a lot of coaches, and he's a likeable kid," Hertler stressed. "Once you meet him in person, you fall in love with kid. His problem was maturity, and he's not a bad kid at all. If he qualifies academically, he can play anywhere in America, because he's THAT good."

One unlikely destination for Howard is Ohio State, although that is not totally ruled out, according to his former head coach.

"Erick was given a plan to get a scholarship from Ohio State, and he didn't get it done academically," Hertler explained. "Is that door still open to Erick? That's tough to say, because in this business, schools roll on without any one player. I will say that Jim Tressel has always been intrigued by Erick. He likes him as a person, and he was intrigued about what Erick could bring to his program. Don't write that there's a good chance at all, but it's accurate to say there is a chance he could sign with Ohio State in January, and be counted in with the 2010 class."

Not to brag, but I told you so! Here is the Fork Union Military Academy football roster. No Erik Howard. This is not a surprise to me, he never was interested in academics.

Kid is a waste of talent.

[Dr Z]

Not to brag, but I told you so! Here is the Fork Union Military Academy football roster. No Erik Howard. This is not a surprise to me, he never was interested in academics.

14 carries for 71 yards vs Louisburg College

[Captain Kangaroo]

Not to brag, but I told you so! Here is the Fork Union Military Academy football roster. No Erik Howard. This is not a surprise to me, he never was interested in academics.

14 carries for 71 yards vs Louisburg College

[Buckzip]

Not to brag, but I told you so! Here is the Fork Union Military Academy football roster. No Erik Howard. This is not a surprise to me, he never was interested in academics.

14 carries for 71 yards vs Louisburg College

What't ironic about all this is that a UA fan was convinced someone wasn't on a team because he wasn't on their roster....LOL

[Dave in Green]

The roster was moved from the previous link, but apparently still not updated:

Roster

[Hilltopper]

Guess I was wrong. All I could go by was the roster.

[Hilltopper]

Okay, I'll start this post by admitting this , but there is an update. It looks as though Howards football career might be over. He did appear in the one game mentioned by Dr Z, but that was it.

What Happened to Eric howard?

10-20-10, 12:00 AM

TuslawTheNewJackson

Varsity Join Date: 09-26-10

Posts: 56

hes actually back here in north canton working at grand slam again. he hurt his knee in practice and is done playing football. he said his career is done

[ZachTheZip]

Supposedly he walked on at Ohio U. I hope when we play him this season that our D-Line pancakes him, assuming he ever sees the field.