Devoe Torrence

[infofan]

Torrence was not in uniform at Penn St. for a reason unknown to us fans. Does anyone have any news on his status?? What happened or was it a one game thing?? We need his depth, unless its another Harvey scenario.

[Captain Kangaroo]

Torrence was not in uniform at Penn St. for a reason unknown to us fans. Does anyone have any news on his status?? What happened or was it a one game thing?? We need his depth, unless its another Harvey scenario.

All I know is he was on the team bus to Penn State, so I wouldn't be alarmed. He hasn't dropped off the face of the earth. Hopefully he gets some snaps this week. I expect it.

[InTheZone]

It's kind of hard to know what the hell is going on when we can't even get a depth chart.Here's my best guess: Devoe, because of his status as a high school player and recruit, has been incredibly over-hyped by the people on this board and he has not measured up in the coaching staff's opinion in practice, and they don't feel he's good enough to be playing in front of the guys that are. I hope there's another explanation, but looking at last year, this spring, and a complete lack of his name being mentioned in camp, that'd be my best guess.

[Dr Z]

I don't think that is a good guess.

[UA Fan]

They wanted him to make the trip but they didn't want him to dress for the game. I'm confused...what else is new?

[g-mann17]

I don't think that is a good guess.

You're right, that was probably the worst guess in the history of guesses.Last year he red-shirted. They probably made a decision prior to the game on who was playing, hell he could have rolled his ankle or had the flu. Chances are he's a red shirt freshman that hasn't quite gotten the steps down (something JD has mentioned) so he is fourth on the depth chart. Also chances are we have so much depth at RB that we need not worry about when a RS Freshman get's into the game. His time will come and he's not going anywhere.

[InTheZone]

I don't think that is a good guess.

You're right, that was probably the worst guess in the history of guesses.Last year he red-shirted. They probably made a decision prior to the game on who was playing, hell he could have rolled his ankle or had the flu. Chances are he's a red shirt freshman that hasn't quite gotten the steps down (something JD has mentioned) so he is fourth on the depth chart. Also chances are we have so much depth at RB that we need not worry about when a RS Freshman get's into the game. His time will come and he's not going anywhere.

You basically just re-stated exactly what I said. He's not good enough to be playing right now ahead of the guys that are.

[g-mann17]

I don't think that is a good guess.

You're right, that was probably the worst guess in the history of guesses.Last year he red-shirted. They probably made a decision prior to the game on who was playing, hell he could have rolled his ankle or had the flu. Chances are he's a red shirt freshman that hasn't quite gotten the steps down (something JD has mentioned) so he is fourth on the depth chart. Also chances are we have so much depth at RB that we need not worry about when a RS Freshman get's into the game. His time will come and he's not going anywhere.

You basically just re-stated exactly what I said. He's not good enough to be playing right now ahead of the guys that are.

No you pretty much said he was over-hyped. I said he has a Senior and Junior ahead of him which means it would take a lot to get ahead of them. You are basically stating he is a bust. If that wasn't your intent, than ok, but your guess basically reads "he's an over-hyped bust, but I hope I'm wrong".

[bUAkronG]

My sources very close to the team say that DeVoe is in the doghouse and that the coaching staff doesn't know what the hell they're missing because DT is one of the best RBs UA has ever had.But I'd still expect him to get some carries before the end of the season.

[Zip Watcher]

Walter Payton would have had negative yardage in the first half Saturday. DT wouldn't have made a difference.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

I must admit I had wondered a little about him as well. There was quite a buzz about him when he arrived at Akron, and as a semi-informed fan I assumed that a young RB with that kind of buzz would likely wind up as a starter sooner rather than later, without any waiting for upper classmen ahead of him. If the idea is that he is super talented and a stud, and that the coaches play the best player at each position, regardless of their class status/age, then I think many of us assumed he'd be carrying the rock for UA right away. I'll admit that I was surprised not to see him play in the first game, although it could obviously have been for a number of reasons that have nothing to do with where he'll end up as the season progresses. I think it's just human nature, especially when talking about RBs, to think that a young stud is going to blast into the fans' conciousness early.GO ZIPS!STZ

[Dr Z]

Walter Payton would have had negative yardage in the first half Saturday. DT wouldn't have made a difference.

+1The coaches know the talent of DeVoe. That is not an issue.

[Z.I.P.]

My sources very close to the team say that DeVoe is in the doghouse and that the coaching staff doesn't know what the hell they're missing because DT is one of the best RBs UA has ever had.But I'd still expect him to get some carries before the end of the season.

+1I'm with your sources very close to the team Betch. And I am far from convinced that Alex Allen is going to help propel the team to where it needs to go to save the coach's job. In fact, if he's the only option, as appears to be gaining ground (not on the field yet unfortunately) and Akron becomes a one-dimensional offense dependent on a very inconsistent quarterback, it could well spell doom for the guy making the decisions. You would think he wants to have as many options as possible, but hey, he's the coach not me or you. It's his behind that's on the hot seat. Best of luck. And congrats to whoever bought or was handed out all those tix for Saturday's game for almost filling the house for a team most everyone's never heard of.

[GP1]

Here's my best guess: Devoe, because of his status as a high school player and recruit, has been incredibly over-hyped by the people on this board and he has not measured up in the coaching staff's opinion in practice, and they don't feel he's good enough to be playing in front of the guys that are. I hope there's another explanation, but looking at last year, this spring, and a complete lack of his name being mentioned in camp, that'd be my best guess.

I know some are disagreeing, but I would agree with this. A lot can change in a year. As good as a high school senior may be, that person still has to improve his game in order to get on the field for a D-1A team. Maybe there are some who came in with lesser recognition, but have improved beyond him. Competition is a good thing for the program.Playing time is earned. Maybe he isn't following instruction well at this level. It starts with talent, but there is a lot more to it. We'll all find out soon enough.

[InTheZone]

Here's my best guess: Devoe, because of his status as a high school player and recruit, has been incredibly over-hyped by the people on this board and he has not measured up in the coaching staff's opinion in practice, and they don't feel he's good enough to be playing in front of the guys that are. I hope there's another explanation, but looking at last year, this spring, and a complete lack of his name being mentioned in camp, that'd be my best guess.

I know some are disagreeing, but I would agree with this. A lot can change in a year. As good as a high school senior may be, that person still has to improve his game in order to get on the field for a D-1A team. Maybe there are some who came in with lesser recognition, but have improved beyond him. Competition is a good thing for the program.Playing time is earned. Maybe he isn't following instruction well at this level. It starts with talent, but there is a lot more to it. We'll all find out soon enough.

Exactly. Anyone who has ever actually PLAYED college football has seen "big name recruits" come in and end up being nowhere close to what all the people on the message boards thought they were going to be. I hope this isn't the case with DeVoe, but given the fact that he's in his second year and probably not even on the depth chart, that's what it looks like to me. I can think of tons of guys who I played with that came in as hyped big time recruits and looked the part, and when we got on the practice field they just didn't have what it took for the college game either in terms of playing style or the ability to grasp and effectively execute a college scheme. Attitude and insubordination could also be a huge issue.

[Dr Z]

I've always seemed to care more about the players that play on the field, they seem to make more of a difference when it comes to winning games. It's a very rare occasion that a player that doesn't dress for a game makes an impact on the outcome of the game. I can think of a few, but not many. There was that one guy that didn't dress and tripped that return man during the game, and I'm trying to think of the other one....Here is a shot I took after the game Saturday for ZN members that like to discuss players that don't play or dress for games:Just realized I had this one from Saturday too...look close:

[Dr Z]

I hope some of you fans got to see DeVoe play yesterday. Let's hope his hip (I'm guessing from the placement of the ice bag) is okay.

[Hilltopper]

I hope some of you fans got to see DeVoe play yesterday. Let's hope his hip (I'm guessing from the placement of the ice bag) is okay.

Looked like a hip pointer possibly?

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

With the state of the running game, we need to get him back and at least see what he can do with reps. I hate to say that so far, I've been underwhelmed with Allen and Shuford. Martin looked good yesterday but that was much later in the game as we ground down the Bears. I think this team will need to learn, in actual game play, what we have in DeVoe. GO ZIPS!STZ