Kent read, Kent write ...

[Zip Watcher]

Originally posted by Dr. Z at Dreamwater .. this needs to be here!

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Can't State Asks For 1,000 Diplomas To Be Returned

Misspelling Appears On Document

Can't, Ohio -- Can't State University has asked more than 1,000 graduates to return their diploma if the word "privileges" is misspelled.

"I certainly don't want a Can't State diploma hanging on someone's wall with a misspelling," registrar Roberta Sikula said.

She said some diplomas were mailed to graduates with "privileges" appearing as "privilieges" in the phrase "all the rights, and privileges and honors pertaining thereto."

Sikula didn't know how many diplomas had the typo or what caused it. She sent letters to students who graduated in December offering to exchange diplomas with misspellings for edited versions.

Graduates can write VOID across their diploma and mail it to the registrar. The university wants the originals to avoid fraudulent use.

Can't State began using new software in August to produce diplomas.

Sikula said an employee might have inserted the misspelling while changing the wording on diplomas for the Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine, of which Can't State is a part.

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Here's the source link.

[Zipsrifle]

This made it on the morning radio today in Detroit. I was tempted to call in and give the ole Can't read, Can't write, Can't Spell, Can't State!

[ZippyRulz]

Can't read, can't write, pretty good at fishin' though

http://www.geaugamapleleaf.com/sports/locals-hooked-on-competitive-fishing-in-college/

[K92]

Doesn't really belong in this thread specifically but I didn't want to start another. Can't makes some negative national news.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/20/fbi-investigating-Can't-state-professor-for-ties-to-isis.html

[Captain Kangaroo]

Doesn't really belong in this thread specifically but I didn't want to start another. Can't makes some negative national news.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/20/fbi-investigating-Can't-state-professor-for-ties-to-isis.html

Thanks for the update on K.e.n.t.'s recruiting.

[g-mann17]

Thanks for the update on K.e.n.t.'s recruiting.

With recruiting like that, the team is sure to be explosive.

[LoyalZIP]

This is very disturbing: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/02/kent_state_university_student_sues_former_softball_coach_for_covering_up_rape_by_coachs_son.html#incart_river_mobileshort_home

[ZippyRulz]

Hoops to be king at Kent, reno to be done on gymnasium..

 

http://wksu.org/post/kent-state-university-keeping-all-sports-and-adding-one-more#stream/0

 

[Blue & Gold]

Kent being Kent.  I just puked in my mouth after rolling my eyes so hard I now have a migraine.

 

http://www.ohio.com/news/education/tamir-rice-s-mother-to-be-keynote-speaker-at-may-4th-commemoration-at-kent-state-1.678736

[Balsy]

12 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

Kent being Kent.  I just puked in my mouth after rolling my eyes so hard I now have a migraine.

 

http://www.ohio.com/news/education/tamir-rice-s-mother-to-be-keynote-speaker-at-may-4th-commemoration-at-kent-state-1.678736

 

The purpose of a place of higher education is to challenge people's preconceived notions, to make you challenge what you already know and accept.  If you aren't at least challenged to question what you already know and accept, than education has failed you, because there is no other reason for education to exist.  

 

Without going into the situation of Tamir Rice (because it's not important to this topic), Kent State is doing exactly what Universities are supposed to do.  Bringing attention to issues and to create a dialogue on issues important to the areas in which they are in.  This doesn't stop at graduation or commemoration.  Have we gone so soft that we cannot be challenged or confronted with opinions that are not our own, that we've got to "puke in our mouths after rolling our eyes so hard that we get migraines?"  

Edited April 28, 2016 by Balsy

[ZippyRulz]

They are linking it to the 1970 shootings

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/04/kent_state_student_group_connects_may_4_shooting_to_tamir_rices_death.html

 

[Balsy]

21 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said:

They are linking it to the 1970 shootings

 

Now that is an appropriate criticism of the decision.  I do think it is in slightly poor taste to link the two, because they are two completely different situations.  It is a bit of a stretch to connect the two, but all-in-all it's their decision to make and to invite whatever guests they want.

[Blue & Gold]

54 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said:

They are linking it to the 1970 shootings

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/04/kent_state_student_group_connects_may_4_shooting_to_tamir_rices_death.html

 

 

Right.  Read the article, Balsy.  It's disgraceful.  

 

And, btw, I didn't say we should boycott it or ban it from taking place, or censor anything at all.  Just speaking my opinion on the matter that it is terribly inappropriate.  Freedom of speech, you know.  

 

Kent being Kent. 

Edited April 28, 2016 by Blue & Gold

[Balsy]

4 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

 

Right.  Read the article, Balsy.  It's disgraceful.  

 

And, btw, I didn't say we should boycott it or ban it from taking place, or censor anything at all.  Just speaking my opinion on the matter that it is terribly inappropriate.  Freedom of speech, you know.  

 

Kent being Kent. 

 

I did read the article, and I don't agree with you about it being a disgrace.  There apparently is a long history of supporting issues faced by the African-American Community on Kent State's campus (Banner honoring the Shootings at Jackson University) because it was largely forgotten.  (I wonder why it was largely forgotten?). 

 

The leader with the task force I couldn't agree with more when he says: "I think the responsibility of both the university and student group is to foster an exchange of ideas and we have had a full range of speaker..."It is to educate and connect the events of May 4, 1970, to what is happening today. It is to bring up ideas and engage the community to remember what happened on that day and the social challenges that students and the larger community face today as well."
 

If that was their goal, I can attest to it working because I never knew there was a shooting 10 days later at Jackson University, eerily similar to that at Kent State.

 

I was being critical of your comments because I don't view you as someone who normally doesn't articulate their argument.  You usually give good reasons for why you don't like something, and I on many occasions agree with you.  But a statement like "I just puked in my mouth after rolling my eyes so hard I now have a migraine" isn't such an articulated opinion.  Yes, it's your right to say it, and it's my right to call it out.  Thats why people have conversations.  But it would have been nice if you had said that was the reason you were critical of it in the first place.  

[Blue & Gold]

I get you, Balzy.  So you understand where I'm coming from, I'm sick of K.e.n.t's behavior in this yearly memorial because, as you correctly and succinctly stated in one of your posts: "The purpose of a place of higher education is to challenge people's preconceived notions, to make you challenge what you already know and accept.  If you aren't at least challenged to question what you already know and accept, than education has failed you, because there is no other reason for education to exist."

 

I agree fully, which is why I find K.e.n.t so frustrating.  They simply don't do this.  At all.  They never have lectures or memorials actually educating their students about the other side of the story.  They never give counterbalance to the left-leaning narrative.  You'll never see a seminar conducted from the perspective of the National Guardsmen (who, for the most part, were deer-in-the-headlights 18-19 year-olds being pelted with human feces & who actually may have been shot at first.)  

 

And now K.e.n.t is trying to tie this to the Black Lives Matter movement; an important movement to be sure, but a movement which has become bi-partisan & politicized, and, once again, K.e.n.t is banking hard to the left on this issue.  Once again, K.e.n.t won't actually educate by presenting a perspective from the other side of the story; about how difficult and stressful the job of a law enforcement officer is. About how dangerous and thankless a law enforcement officer's job is. About how they have to make life-and-death decisions in the blink of an eye.  About how they have to live with the consequences of those decisions for the rest of their lives.  About the extensive training they have to go through on a yearly basis.  About how no one, no matter what color their skin, should ever pull out a pellet gun while being interrogated (not a negative term) by an officer of the law.  

 

K.e.n.t isn't educating their students here, they're simply propagating the left-leaning narrative.  Watch this every year from here on out and you'll see the same thing.  Year after year after year.  Their students are (intentionally?) left ignorant of the other point of view.  That's not education.

 

Edit: But you're absolutely right - I should have stated why I was so frustrated instead of just dropping a "roll eyes" comment out of nowhere with no context.  That was not wise on my part.

Edited April 29, 2016 by Blue & Gold

[Balsy]

Blue & Gold, you're alright and I appreciate that your criticism.  And I agree with some of it.  I'm a huge advocate of presenting both sides, as you put it.  Though on some issues by presenting both sides sometimes it can lead to distorting reality a bit if you follow an "equal time" formula; We landed on the Moon vs. Landing on the Moon was a conspiracy; or 9/11 conspiracy nonsense.  (I mention those specifically because I occasionally as a science teacher, get asked about those two things by students and have to spend a considerable amount of time talking about the reality of those issues that, if given equal time to both sides, may not be so clear).

 

I would like to point out though that Syed did mention that they have had some of the National Guardsmen involved that day as guest speakers before;  "Previous speakers at the May 4 Task Force events have included political activists, those on campus in 1970 and National Guardsmen, he said."  Now who they were wasn't included in this article, and I tried to do a little online digging and couldn't come up with anything, but I think we should take him for his word that they have had them there.  Now I'll grant you it is entirely possible that the individual National Guardsmen selected may have been cherry-picked because they fit a narrative, but we may be reading way too far into the issue at that point.

 

Perhaps the separation I would like to make is that I don't see them as calling the individuals involved out for their involvement, trying to shame them in some way (the police officer, or the National Guardsmen or the Police in general) but instead bring attention to the larger power dynamic involved with those situations, and bringing attention to them and analyzing them is how we find how to deal with a situation better.  

 

I will say that I think we both may be reading into it a little too much, but it is certainly good to talk about.  I think sometimes people are just too darn stubborn to talk about things and articulate why the believe the things they do.  Had people never done that, I'd still be the person I was in HS, who was very different person than I am today.  Thanks for sharing a more articulated opinion, of which I do respect and agree portions of.  

[ZippyRulz]

Can't register

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/08/kent_state_accidentally_cancel.html

 

[ZippyRulz]

Something they can do..

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/kent_state_students_tops_in_se.html

[K92]

http://www.ohio.com/news/local/michigan-gop-official-resigns-over-horribly-worded-kent-state-tweet-1.746250

[kreed5120]

2 hours ago, K92 said:

http://www.ohio.com/news/local/michigan-gop-official-resigns-over-horribly-worded-kent-state-tweet-1.746250

Quote

The Michigan political official who stated on social media that the country needed “another Kent State” to deal with college protesters resigned Wednesday.

What a moron. How'd he expect that comment to go over?