My letter of support for J.D. Brookhart

[GP1]

We get these talented transfers andrecruits and most of them don't pan out. We do not load up on skill positions and he do not recruit Ohio very well. Get some strong local talent and we can help on two fronts...good players and local interest is peaked.I think we got extremely lucky to win the one MAC title we did and since then nothing.

The talent we have on the field is very good. The problem JD has is he isn't doing anything with it and they aren't doing anything with themselves.Recruiting Ohio isn't the answer. There are too many D-1A programs in Ohio and not enough talent to go around. Good programs draw good players from wherever they can. If they are from Ohio then fine, but let's not limit our recruiting scope. Local players don't increase ticket sales. That has been tried and fails time and again. It failed during the Faust years and it failed during the Owens years.I'm not sure why everyone continually degrades our MAC Championship. We made it to the game and won. Maybe there was some luck, but every team that wins any championship has some luck along the way.

[GP1]

With very little publicity or desire for publicity, JT has given tens of thousands of dollars to the football program over the years.

I'm a big fan of JT and have followed Akron for years. By little publicity do you mean no publicity? I have never read or heard of any such gifts to the school or football program.

He is a true gentleman. He wants it that way. When the program has needed financial support in the past, he has come through. I've heard that one day when his playing career is over they may name something after him. The should do that Hall of Fame weekend five years after this season.

[g-mann17]

With very little publicity or desire for publicity, JT has given tens of thousands of dollars to the football program over the years.

I'm a big fan of JT and have followed Akron for years. By little publicity do you mean no publicity? I have never read or heard of any such gifts to the school or football program.

He is a true gentleman. He wants it that way. When the program has needed financial support in the past, he has come through. I've heard that one day when his playing career is over they may name something after him. The should do that Hall of Fame weekend five years after this season.

They should, and I think he deserves a statue (immortalized) to show how much he meant to the program and University and to remind the players, recruits and fans that greatness can come from anywhere.

[g-mann17]

The talent we have on the field is very good. The problem JD has is he isn't doing anything with it and they aren't doing anything with themselves.

Agreed. There are times when I watch a drive and say "why are we not in a two back set right here?" The talent is there, everyone in the MAC knows it. It's time to step and utilize it

Recruiting Ohio isn't the answer. There are too many D-1A programs in Ohio and not enough talent to go around. Good programs draw good players from wherever they can. If they are from Ohio then fine, but let's not limit our recruiting scope. Local players don't increase ticket sales. That has been tried and fails time and again. It failed during the Faust years and it failed during the Owens years.

Eh. Recruiting area talent just to recruit area talent doesn't work. Getting great area talent does draw. (But just having great talent draws). This is a more of "win and the place get's filled" deal. We need to win. Winning will always sell tickets.

I'm not sure why everyone continually degrades our MAC Championship. We made it to the game and won. Maybe there was some luck, but every team that wins any championship has some luck along the way.

I say it's because people have to try and make flaw with everything. If we were lucky in 05, what was Buffalo last year? They didn't need the tie breakers but they sure needed a lot of OT and way more miraculous plays than we did.

[MDZip]

With very little publicity or desire for publicity, JT has given tens of thousands of dollars to the football program over the years.

I'm a big fan of JT and have followed Akron for years. By little publicity do you mean no publicity? I have never read or heard of any such gifts to the school or football program.

He is a true gentleman. He wants it that way. When the program has needed financial support in the past, he has come through. I've heard that one day when his playing career is over they may name something after him. The should do that Hall of Fame weekend five years after this season.

They should, and I think he deserves a statue (immortalized) to show how much he meant to the program and University and to remind the players, recruits and fans that greatness can come from anywhere.

He was also named to the Sporting News all-Decade NFL team.

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

Great to hear about Jason Taylor being so supportive. I also had no idea that he had been so good to UA since his playing days in Akron. We all need a little heart-warming scoop like that right now. Now, to the present. All I have to say about the state of the Zips, and JD's status is:GO ZIPS!!!!!! BEAT THE CHIPS!!!!!! MAKE US PROUD FELLAS. Seriously, kick some ass out there tomorrow. STZ

[uafan]

Best post since I've been here, I'm behind JD 100%, he's worked and sacrificed to much for a few losers to wreck his party. Support our head coach and try to understand the dilemma he's in. Go Zips man up!!

Good for you, baller. But don't tell me to back a head coach I hawve never trusted. I have my own. personal reasons, and I would not want to let them out. No, I do not support JD, and I never will! And I am not a loser!

[InTheZone]

You walked into a situation where you had to convince the team's starting QB to stay for his senior year, because he was also loyal to your predecessor, and didn't want to finish his career playing for you.

I've always been curious about this. Did Frye stay an extra year because he wanted to, or did he consult with professionals about his draft prospects and realize there was a chance of not getting drafted or becoming a Nate Davis (before Davis of course)? Remember, if the Browns were the only team stupid enough to draft him in the third round after his senior year, who else would have drafted him? Who would have drafted him after his junior year?I actually think Frye made an informed decision to stay his senior year because he realized from talking with others he may not be ready for Sunday afternoons. Maybe Fitzgerald, et al talked with him, but I think the rational decision was to stay at UofA because he was not ready.

I was graduated and out of the program at the time of all of this, but there were quite a few guys still on the team who I had played with and was close with. The story I got was that Frye was livid with the firing of Owens, so much so that he refused to even look at Mike Thomas, much less speak to him. At the team meeting the day following the victory over Ohio and the subsequent Owens firing, with Mike Thomas in the room, Frye proceeded to stand up, with tears in his eyes, and tell the team they didn't have to stand by and take this, and that he wasn't going to have his senior season ruined by someone "not a part of this team who was only looking out for himself." Needless to say it was a tense meeting. Other seniors to be such as Chase Blackburn stood up and said they would refuse to play for anyone else. At that point pretty much everyone assumed that Frye was going pro, and from what I understood he was in fact projected higher following that season (3600 passing yards) than after his senior season (2400 passing yards). Frye pretty much refused to talk to anyone in the athletic department outside of the assistant coaches who remained employed and in office until a new head coach was hired, at which time they would recieve token interviews as is the norm and be subsequently fired to make room for a new staff. When JD was hired, he didn't contact Frye immediately, as I guess Charlie expected him too, and there were rumors that JD and some of his new hires were already actively recruiting a JUCO QB out of California, who JD had been looking at at Pitt, to come in and start. Frye felt extremely dissed obviously, and at that point he made it known to most of his buddies on the team that he was leaving. JD did in fact ask to speak with Frye shortly afterwards however, and if any of you have ever had the chance to sit down with JD one on one, you know the guy, regardless of your opinion of his coaching abilities, is great with words, bullshitter or not. Whatever was said in that meeting was obviously enough for Charlie, as there was a team meeting the next day, which he appeared at (as I understand it he was not present at JD's first official "team meeting"), and he announced to the team that he was returning and that they were going to win a MAC Championship with JD at the helm. Frye however, as many of you know, has always been more loyal to Owens, as whenever he's talked about his college experience he's always cited Owens for his success as opposed to Brookhart. He also, regrettably in my opinion, currently does a lot more for ASHLAND football (golf outings, fundraisers, works with the team in the offseason) than he does for the Zips (nothing that I'm aware of?) But there you go, at least direct from the guys I know that were there at the time, you now know the rest of the story.

Excellent insight. Thanks for this and I really mean that.After reading this, I dislike Frye even more than I did before. Throw in some dislike for Chase Blackburn as well. JD should have run those two off when he took over. Never leave cancer in the patient. Faust didn't run enough guys off when he took over either and we had veteran players actively subverting the team every chance they had. I thought Frye's public comments after Owens was fired were the signs of a spoiled brat. Man was I right. UofA (the taxpayers of Ohio) paid for him to go to college...made him the focus of the program to the point they concocted a Frye for Heisman campaign...Frye was given the team after Sparks was hurt...the list could go on. UofA did a lot for Frye and for him not to give back is absolutely disgusting. This is the United States and he is free to support anything he wants, but the support Jason Taylor gives the school is legendary. Frye has become an afterthought and JT continues his Hall of Fame career in the NFL.One of the more interesting points is Frye wouldn't look at Mike Thomas. This is the sign of a weak personality. I work in a very harsh business (construction) and I can't tell you the number of times I have had the pleasure of looking another man in the face and calling him an a-hole and have been called an a-hole myself. The next day I see the same person and it is as if nothing happened. If Frye was any kind of a man, he would have taken Thomas aside and given him a piece of his mind. Instead, he hides from him. What a temper tantrum thowing boob.....If I was Owens, I would ask Frye not to tell people he is responsible for Frye's "success". After all, Frye's success consists of a losing college record, getting drafted by the only team stupid enough to draft him, putting up laughable numbers in the NFL losing time like he did in college, getting traded after the first game to Seattle where he began the remainder of his career on the bench (don't forget the Browns won 10 games after Frye was traded and DA went to the Pro Bowl. they would have had a losing season with Frye and his "talent") and now he is third string on the worst team in the NFL. His pro career has been so bad it would be hard to sit down for a day and make up that story. A sitcom writer couldn't make up something that funny.Thanks again for the reaffirmation ITZ.

In defense of guys like Blackburn, before any of those seniors got up and spoke in that meeting I've heard that there was an older member of the Board of Trustees that came in to address the team, before Mike Thomas was in the room (this meeting took place in the main large lecture hall in Olin Hall, where most whole team meetings took place in the Owens era) and basically gave a speech on how much respect he had for Lee Owens, how wrong this decision was, and how he had learned through military service to never give up, and he wasn't going to give up on Lee Owens remaining as the head football coach at the University of Akron. Needless to say, this got a bunch of 18-21 year olds riled up and believing that they could somehow save their coaches job, when that was obviously not going to happen. Chase and others were most likely standing up and saying the things that they were because they believed through some sort of team insurrection they could save their coaches job... they were just trying to do their part for a man they felt loyal to, not to be disloyal to the University. Lee Owens had personally called many of the players and had them over to his house shortly after he'd gotten fired the night before, and basically made Mike Thomas out to be a dishonest and sneaky villian. When Thomas did finally address that meeting he quickly put down any insurrection by saying if anyone wished to transfer, their papers were ready, and that he was doing what he felt was in the best interest of the University. To Blackburn's credit, once JD and staff were on campus, nobody bought into the system and what JD was selling as hard as Chase did. In the end, he was a University of Akron guy, not a Lee Owens guy, and he fought his ass off his senior year and helped resurect a struggling team after a horrific 0-3 start when a lot of guys were grumbling and losing any faith they had in the new coach. A lot of guys didn't buy into JD, and were run off that spring... Chase wasn't one of them.

[Zip_ME87]

With very little publicity or desire for publicity, JT has given tens of thousands of dollars to the football program over the years.

I'm a big fan of JT and have followed Akron for years. By little publicity do you mean no publicity? I have never read or heard of any such gifts to the school or football program.

He is a true gentleman. He wants it that way. When the program has needed financial support in the past, he has come through. I've heard that one day when his playing career is over they may name something after him. The should do that Hall of Fame weekend five years after this season.

They should, and I think he deserves a statue (immortalized) to show how much he meant to the program and University and to remind the players, recruits and fans that greatness can come from anywhere.

Greatness on and off the field.

[Zipsrifle]

Great post STZ, here are some thoughts.JD knew what he was getting into when he took this job. It sucks to neglect everything else that means so much to you to be successful at one thing, but that is his decision. Keep in mind that he is being well compensated for his efforts. Many people make similar, or greater sacrifices (military) and get paid much, much less. I believe he realized how tough a situation he was getting into, and if I remember correctly, he didn't wait for a search comittee to find him, he went after this job. I'm not going to feel sorry for him for his decisions as frankly, we need this type of dedication at this position in our program.As for the players, remember they are still young and these are learning situations. I can remember a somewhat similar event (non athletic) when I was in college. At the time things were going down, there were a lot of 21-22 yr olds who felt very, very strongly about the situation. Some others in the group understood what was going on, they had been exposed to these situations before, and thankfully they took us in the right direction. Looking back at the situation a year or so after it happened, things were very clear as to why my feelings at the time were wrong. I still look back at that situation, and many others over the years and, realize the magitude of the ultimate decisions.The last paragraph is great, HOF in my opinion. 99% of the time you read the same stuff on this board, just restated in a differnt way. 1% of the time you get a great perspective on the situation. Nice job.

[72 Roo]

In The Zone.... I find your posts very intereting. It's information I was not aware of. Thanks for sending it on.

[Zipmeister]

Best post since I've been here, I'm behind JD 100%, he's worked and sacrificed to much for a few losers to wreck his party. Support our head coach and try to understand the dilemma he's in. Go Zips man up!!

Well it's sure long and includes the word sucks a lot.

Well there's a lot about the situation that sucks, and a lot of sucking going on, feel me homeslice?

I feel you moonpie. 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I'll top that. Can't Statecks. GO ZIPS!!!!

[fear the brown roo]

What has JT done? I saw him at the game they retired his jersey.....................

With very little publicity or desire for publicity, JT has given tens of thousands of dollars to the football program over the years.

And i heard from someone in fundraising that Taylor never has given anything back. I don't know what to believe.

[Dave in Green]

Primal scream therapy (n): Psychotherapy in which the patient recalls and reenacts a particularly disturbing past experience usually occurring early in life and expresses normally repressed anger or frustration especially through spontaneous and unrestrained screams, hysteria, or violence — called also primal therapy.

[GP1]

What has JT done? I saw him at the game they retired his jersey.....................

With very little publicity or desire for publicity, JT has given tens of thousands of dollars to the football program over the years.

And i heard from someone in fundraising that Taylor never has given anything back. I don't know what to believe.

I've heard from more than one person under more than one AD that he has given generously.

[GP1]

I've heard that there was an older member of the Board of Trustees that came in to address the team, before Mike Thomas was in the room (this meeting took place in the main large lecture hall in Olin Hall, where most whole team meetings took place in the Owens era) and basically gave a speech on how much respect he had for Lee Owens, how wrong this decision was, and how he had learned through military service to never give up, and he wasn't going to give up on Lee Owens remaining as the head football coach at the University of Akron. Lee Owens had personally called many of the players and had them over to his house shortly after he'd gotten fired the night before, and basically made Mike Thomas out to be a dishonest and sneaky villian.

I can only hope that this person is no longer on the BOT.It's funny, Owens did something completely dishonest and sneaky to call Thomas dishonest and sneaky. I wonder if JD knew about this meeting. I wonder if Thomas knew about the meeting. If so, anyone attending should have been given their walking papers the next day. Calling a meeting like that is a completely low class and unprofessional thing to do. It shows how "small" Owens really was. He'll be coaching at that piss ant little college in Ashland County forever.I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall when Thomas told the team to go along with the decision or get the Hell out. The silence must have been deafening and the smell of poop in their pants was probably pretty bad as well. Thomas was the man.This topic has been completely reaffirming. I would love to know more. I love history and this is a good history lesson.