Beacon article on selling the zips

[MaxZIP]

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/79138252.htmlThe bird nest comment is kinda strange

[zip37]

I'm gonna be a tough sell! I've been burned too many times, I'm sticking w/soccer.

[Dave in Green]

It's hard not to be cynical about the next great Zips savior. I've been burned many times in many different sports in many states across the country. But I have to say there is something about Ianello that makes me think he could be the real deal.

[Z.I.P.]

It's hard not to be cynical about the next great Zips savior. I've been burned many times in many different sports in many states across the country. But I have to say there is something about Ianello that makes me think he could be the real deal.

Message to the Akron Jerkin'Banal: Please put Mr. McManamon on the Cleveland Browns, or Indians, or any subject about which I don't care. He clearly knows so little about the University of Akron athletics program, that all he can offer up is an endless array of retread cliches. Oh, my eyes!

[GP1]

I like his list of MAC QBs that win. All of them are true except one. Anyone want to guess at which one never won anything?

[Captain Kangaroo]

I like his list of MAC QBs that win. All of them are true except on. Anyone want to guess at which one never won anything?

Dan LeFevour

[GP1]

I like his list of MAC QBs that win. All of them are true except on. Anyone want to guess at which one never won anything?

Dan LeFevour

Try again......

[ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net]

Nobody can know how he'll be when it comes to the on field strategic and tactical decisions to be made. I'll take a wait and see approach there. When it comes to recruiting I'm looking forward to seeing how he calibrates the message(s) he uses. It's clear that, based on interviews he did while still at ND, much of the spiel had to do with the honor, history, prestige factors that were part and parcel of the "ND theme." He will have NONE of those factors working for him at UA. UA has no football prestige, it has no positive football history that a high school kid is likely to be impressed with. UA is a wonderful university but has none of the panache of a ND. So what can he sell? For some players, the chance to see the field and develop their skills right away. He'll also be able to push the facilities, the new stadium, the board's commitment to growing the program (which should especially help with the high school coaches in the region), and what else? How about offensive and defensive systems that are most likely to develop and prepare players for the pro game? How about pushing the administration hard for maximum academic support (mentorship, tutoring, etc) to support the players. If he can build a program that wins and graduates kids he'll have another selling point. What else? How would you recruit? How would you sell this program?

[Zipmeister]

http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/79138252.htmlThe bird nest comment is kinda strange

Well it could have been worse. He could have said, "UA football is like a pie in the sky. Now all we have to do is get it down here where we can eat it."

[GP1]

So what can he sell? For some players, the chance to see the field and develop their skills right away. He'll also be able to push the facilities, the new stadium, the board's commitment to growing the program (which should especially help with the high school coaches in the region), and what else? How about offensive and defensive systems that are most likely to develop and prepare players for the pro game? How about pushing the administration hard for maximum academic support (mentorship, tutoring, etc) to support the players. If he can build a program that wins and graduates kids he'll have another selling point. What else? How would you recruit? How would you sell this program?

Good post. The key is making yourself different than everyone else. Everyone else is now selling facilities as more schools than just UofA have been improving their facilities. New stadium? Everyone else is selling stadium improvements.Board commitment to "growing" the program? Everyone else tells the same lie.Great point about the offensive and defensive schemes. That's what can separate one team from another and gather the attention of a recruit. This should be framed in a way that centers around how those schemes are going to make the team win.Academic support? Good point if we indeed do have good academic support compared to the other schools the kid is looking at.Honesty is the best selling tool I know. Be honest about the history of the program and the desire to turn it into a winner. Have a clear message to the recruits that losing is no longer going to be accepted at UofA. The hosts should be passing along the same message of winning and belief that the new coaches can get them there.Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.

[GoZips]

Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.

Getting a chuckle out of this statement. As coach Peters can verify; in the old Bob Huggins era, weasked a potential recruit if his goal was to win or get an education. If the kid responded, "get aneducation", we stopped recruiting him.Second chuckle for all you pious folks. Bob Huggins is a successful coach because he still puts winningfirst. The education is a benefit the player gets for his hard work. As the great coach Lombardi oncequipped, "winning isn't everything; its the only thing". Win or fail. There is no other option.

[MaxZIP]

So what can he sell? For some players, the chance to see the field and develop their skills right away. He'll also be able to push the facilities, the new stadium, the board's commitment to growing the program (which should especially help with the high school coaches in the region), and what else? How about offensive and defensive systems that are most likely to develop and prepare players for the pro game? How about pushing the administration hard for maximum academic support (mentorship, tutoring, etc) to support the players. If he can build a program that wins and graduates kids he'll have another selling point. What else? How would you recruit? How would you sell this program?

Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.

I too believe that a player's will to win can close a talent gap.

[GP1]

The education is a benefit the player gets for his hard work.

I love this comment and I've never thought of it that way. If winning isn't important, how come we just fired our coach? Winning is everything.

[GP1]

So what can he sell? For some players, the chance to see the field and develop their skills right away. He'll also be able to push the facilities, the new stadium, the board's commitment to growing the program (which should especially help with the high school coaches in the region), and what else? How about offensive and defensive systems that are most likely to develop and prepare players for the pro game? How about pushing the administration hard for maximum academic support (mentorship, tutoring, etc) to support the players. If he can build a program that wins and graduates kids he'll have another selling point. What else? How would you recruit? How would you sell this program?

Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.

I too believe that a player's will to win can close a talent gap.

I agree. Here is how I see it. I have made no bones about my belief we have enough talent on the team to win next year. A winning attitude in addition to talent makes for a very good team.I once worked as a sales manager for a Berkshire Hathaway company and we brought in a new Division Manager who wanted to do things differently. He was a tough guy who told all of us what he wanted to do and said we needed to "change the people or change the people". The sales force we had was good, but lazy and set in their ways because they were frankly older. Heck, I was 38 and the youngest of all the other five managers. The guy manager closest in age was 58. The seven sales reps who reported to me were all older than I was. Believe me, when they heard about what he said, they changed quickly. Only a few had to be shown the door and one of them was a fellow manager. People can change with the right leadership. The Zips can win next year.

[MaxZIP]

So what can he sell? For some players, the chance to see the field and develop their skills right away. He'll also be able to push the facilities, the new stadium, the board's commitment to growing the program (which should especially help with the high school coaches in the region), and what else? How about offensive and defensive systems that are most likely to develop and prepare players for the pro game? How about pushing the administration hard for maximum academic support (mentorship, tutoring, etc) to support the players. If he can build a program that wins and graduates kids he'll have another selling point. What else? How would you recruit? How would you sell this program?

Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.

I too believe that a player's will to win can close a talent gap.

I agree. Here is how I see it. I have made no bones about my belief we have enough talent on the team to win next year. A winning attitude in addition to talent makes for a very good team.I once worked as a sales manager for a Berkshire Hathaway company and we brought in a new Division Manager who wanted to do things differently. He was a tough guy who told all of us what he wanted to do and said we needed to "change the people or change the people". The sales force we had was good, but lazy and set in their ways because they were frankly older. Heck, I was 38 and the youngest of all the other five managers. The guy manager closest in age was 58. The seven sales reps who reported to me were all older than I was. Believe me, when they heard about what he said, they changed quickly. Only a few had to be shown the door and one of them was a fellow manager. People can change with the right leadership. The Zips can win next year.

I feel a slow clap coming on...

[Z.I.P.]

Find out if the kid wants to win or is just attracted to a new stadium and all the fluff associated with that. If so, we shouldn't be interested. If everyone else is selling stadiums and facilities, do something different. Sell a commitment to winning. A kid who buys winning wants to win. A kid who buys a new stadium wants the new stadium. Start a culture of winning.

Getting a chuckle out of this statement. As coach Peters can verify; in the old Bob Huggins era, weasked a potential recruit if his goal was to win or get an education. If the kid responded, "get aneducation", we stopped recruiting him.Second chuckle for all you pious folks. Bob Huggins is a successful coach because he still puts winningfirst. The education is a benefit the player gets for his hard work. As the great coach Lombardi oncequipped, "winning isn't everything; its the only thing". Win or fail. There is no other option.

Thanks GZ! That's why I always felt Huggy should be coaching in the NBA, because his style has no place in college sports. Unless you think Woody Montgomery Hayes-Knight is the model for a college coach, that is. Another reason why I am so glad Akron has a coach who truly cares about the overall interests of his players.

[GP1]

That's why I always felt Huggy should be coaching in the NBA, because his style has no place in college sports.

Huggy was ahead of his time. He is exactly what college sports are and what they have always been. He had the balls to say what everyone else was thinking. It's about winning today. It was about winning in the 1990s. It was about winning in the 1950s. It always has been and always will be. Coaches are brought to schools to win. Alumni give money because the school is winning. Coaches are fired because they don't win. Athletic Directors are fired because their teams don't win. Alumni stop giving money because the team is not winning and are willing to turn their backs to bad behavior if the team is winning.I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

[Captain Kangaroo]

That's why I always felt Huggy should be coaching in the NBA, because his style has no place in college sports.

Huggy was ahead of his time. He is exactly what college sports are and what they have always been. He had the balls to say what everyone else was thinking. It's about winning today. It was about winning in the 1990s. It was about winning in the 1950s. It always has been and always will be. Coaches are brought to schools to win. Alumni give money because the school is winning. Coaches are fired because they don't win. Athletic Directors are fired because their teams don't win. Alumni stop giving money because the team is not winning and are willing to turn their backs to bad behavior if the team is winning.I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

You are so full if sh!t.Look at John Calipari. Or Rick Pitino. Those guys stand for all that is good in Division 1 athletics. With them, it is all about teaching kids. About education first, then athletics. About integrity and character.How long would Bobby Knight have lasted at Indiana if he won 15 games per season? FOREVER, I SAY!Winning has nothing to do with anything.

[GoZips]

That's why I always felt Huggy should be coaching in the NBA, because his style has no place in college sports.

Huggy was ahead of his time. He is exactly what college sports are and what they have always been. He had the balls to say what everyone else was thinking. It's about winning today. It was about winning in the 1990s. It was about winning in the 1950s. It always has been and always will be. Coaches are brought to schools to win. Alumni give money because the school is winning. Coaches are fired because they don't win. Athletic Directors are fired because their teams don't win. Alumni stop giving money because the team is not winning and are willing to turn their backs to bad behavior if the team is winning.I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

You are so full if sh!t.Look at John Calipari. Or Rick Pitino. Those guys stand for all that is good in Division 1 athletics. With them, it is all about teaching kids. About education first, then athletics. About integrity and character.How long would Bobby Knight have lasted at Indiana if he won 15 games per season? FOREVER, I SAY!Winning has nothing to do with anything.

ROFLMAO ... !!!!Cap'n, surely you say that tongue-in-cheek. You just named two of the biggest cheats on collegesports. Continuing to ROFLMAO. Nearly brought tears to my eyes. If only they could keep theirJohnsons home.

[Hilltopper]

That's why I always felt Huggy should be coaching in the NBA, because his style has no place in college sports.

Huggy was ahead of his time. He is exactly what college sports are and what they have always been. He had the balls to say what everyone else was thinking. It's about winning today. It was about winning in the 1990s. It was about winning in the 1950s. It always has been and always will be. Coaches are brought to schools to win. Alumni give money because the school is winning. Coaches are fired because they don't win. Athletic Directors are fired because their teams don't win. Alumni stop giving money because the team is not winning and are willing to turn their backs to bad behavior if the team is winning.I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it just is what it is.

You are so full if sh!t.Look at John Calipari. Or Rick Pitino. Those guys stand for all that is good in Division 1 athletics. With them, it is all about teaching kids. About education first, then athletics. About integrity and character.How long would Bobby Knight have lasted at Indiana if he won 15 games per season? FOREVER, I SAY!Winning has nothing to do with anything.

ROFLMAO ... !!!!Cap'n, surely you say that tongue-in-cheek. You just named two of the biggest cheats on collegesports. Continuing to ROFLMAO. Nearly brought tears to my eyes. If only they could keep theirJohnsons home.

I forget, was it Pitino or Calipari who coached Tiger?

[mes102]

I like his list of MAC QBs that win. All of them are true except one. Anyone want to guess at which one never won anything?

Nate Davis