g-mann17 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 How would the federal government regulate individual state schools? State schools are a state matter and not a federal matter. Seems to be a lot of work for no reason. Since the whole thing involves schools in every state, that means the whole process is part of interstate commerce. That is very much the jurisdiction of the Federal Government. Not to mention ESPN is teetering on Anti-trust issues when it is telling conferences what to do and manipulating conferences that are under current contract to grab teams to decrease the value of other conferences. If Goodyear had a supplier under contract and it told that supplier to by a section of its competitor so that it could get a better contract, and this resulted in a bad outcome for Bridgestone or it made the other supplier less appealing to Bridgestone, Anti-trust would all over that in a second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 As a direct result of Houston's move to the Big East, Mack will soon oversee the construction of another new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 10, 2011 Report Share Posted December 10, 2011 As a direct result of Houston's move to the Big East, Mack will soon oversee the construction of another new stadium. I wonder if that stadium will be worth it after they pull the Big East's AQ status from them. Tear down a perfectly good stadium to build another after one good player goes through your school. This sounds like more of a resume padder than a need for a new stadium. College athletics are out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Looks like Memphis is next to the Big East. C-USA has another opening, but are they really an attractive destination any more? Without Houston, SMU, UCF, and now Memphis, are C-USA even worth moving to? Without the money those schools bring in, there isn't enough of a financial boost to make it more attractive than the MAC, and the "name" value of the remaining schools isn't that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Looks like Memphis is next to the Big East. C-USA has another opening, but are they really an attractive destination any more? Without Houston, SMU, UCF, and now Memphis, are C-USA even worth moving to? Without the money those schools bring in, there isn't enough of a financial boost to make it more attractive than the MAC, and the "name" value of the remaining schools isn't that great. The Big East is C-USA now. C-USA is now the MAC with a lot more travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 The Big East is C-USA now. C-USA is now the MAC with a lot more travel. C-USA is the Sun Belt 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I wonder if that stadium will be worth it after they pull the Big East's AQ status from them. Tear down a perfectly good stadium to build another after one good player goes through your school. This sounds like more of a resume padder than a need for a new stadium. College athletics are out of control. You're right, but I don't blame LP for this. He is just doing his job in trying to keep us competitive and on the distinguished side of the stature dividing line when it is drawn more permanently in a few years. However, if the Rubber Bowl weren't in such a state of disrepair, I would have opposed the building of the Big Dialer (TM, GP1). And if an arena gets built, I hope the only facilities that have money put into them in the next twenty years are baseball (a wooden outfield wall and no fan seating, really?) and tennis (not currently on campus). I don't see the soccer fan base growing to the point where we need more seating, and at this point, who can imagine the Big Dialer being sold out? Facilities would no longer be a limiting factor in our upward mobility to a BCS conference. Putting smaller amounts of athletics money towards other aspects of improving our athletics profile and competition level would likely be more resourceful. Many of the faculty have long resented the amount of money spent on Division 1 athletics. How much more until there is a faculty revolt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Don't underestimate the C-USA with the MWC as it's partner. Basically one big conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Don't underestimate the C-USA with the MWC as it's partner. Basically one big conference. You can't be serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 You can't be serious. It's a whole lot better than "the MAC with more travel" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 It's a whole lot better than "the MAC with more travel" UAB East Carolina Marshall Southern Mississippi Rice UTEP Tulane Tulsa Add in MW: Air Force Colorado State UNLV New Mexico Wyoming And the WAC teams: Fresno State Nevada Hawaii That's a shitty conference with a lot of travel and absolutely no intriguing matchups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Southern Miss is ranked in both major sports. ECU is very solid. Marshall. Tulsa is a very nice program. I'll admit the new MWC is terrible, i forgot about boise leaving. But if CUSA was looking for new schools, i'd be thrilled if akron was picked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Looks like Memphis is next to the Big East. C-USA has another opening, but are they really an attractive destination any more? Without Houston, SMU, UCF, and now Memphis, are C-USA even worth moving to? Without the money those schools bring in, there isn't enough of a financial boost to make it more attractive than the MAC, and the "name" value of the remaining schools isn't that great. Well this has completely ended our chances at joining anyway. They wanted 12 teams, and I think that's what they will have now. or is it only 11? For basketball they are still one of the best, but really for football you have Louisville, Cincy, UConn, Boise, and USF. All the rest are mediocre. Not an impressive conference, but really it was our ONLY potential move to an AQ. As much as I would like to see a move to CUSA, I never see that happening. Now I agree with most thinking the NCAA should create a final conference taking the best of the rest. Made up of about 12-14 teams. East Akron ECU Southern Miss Tulsa Tulane Marshall Temple West Wyoming Colorado State Hawaii UNLV New Mexico Fresno State Utah State Everyone else drops to FCS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Zippy5, I guess we are going to just have to agree to disagree. Membership in C-USA would be another nail in the coffin for Akron football. Can you imagine a home conference schedule of Rice, UAB, New Mexico, and UTEP? If Joe Akron is disinterested now, try hosting irrelevant schools from halfway across the country. If Akron joined that disaster of a conference, Zips/Thundering Turd would be the best rivalry in the league. Is there even another rivalry? My God, the thought of C-USA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 the NCAA should create a final conference taking the best of the rest. East Akron ECU Southern Miss Tulsa Tulane Marshall Temple West Wyoming Colorado State Hawaii UNLV New Mexico Fresno State Utah State Everyone else drops to FCS Definitely! Keep Tulane, Colorado State and New Mexico in the "best of the rest" and drop Nevada, Toledo and NIU to FCS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 My ¢2: I think I'm with Keener on this one. C-USA doesn't intrigue me. I really like some the rivalries we presently have in the MAC. Ohio, K.e.nt, Miami. Those are all schools I love to hate. Other rivalries with Toledo, Western Michigan & Buffalo are also good ones. Heck, Ball State doesn't like us either. Add in Temple and UMass. What if the MAC would invite Marshall back. The MAC is more desirable than the current state of C-USA. Then use a little leverage and bring in Temple & UMass for all sports (the Atlanic 10, with the exception of Xavier, ain't what it used to be either). Any chance of those moves happening? It'd give us a really nice conference! Akron Can't Buffalo UMass Temple Ohio Miami Marshall Toledo BGSU EMU CMU WMU Ball State Northern Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 My ¢2: I think I'm with Keener on this one. C-USA doesn't intrigue me. I really like some the rivalries we presently have in the MAC. Ohio, K.e.nt, Miami. Those are all schools I love to hate. Other rivalries with Toledo, Western Michigan & Buffalo are also good ones. Heck, Ball State doesn't like us either. Add in Temple and UMass. What if the MAC would invite Marshall back. The MAC is more desirable than the current state of C-USA. Then use a little leverage and bring in Temple & UMass for all sports (the Atlanic 10, with the exception of Xavier, ain't what it used to be either). Any chance of those moves happening? It'd give us a really nice conference! Akron Can't Buffalo UMass Temple Ohio Miami Marshall Toledo BGSU EMU CMU WMU Ball State Northern Illinois EMU CMU WMU? I don't want them. They would just drag the conference down. Marshall? Take them back for the third time? Even the MAC is not that stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Nobody cares about Rice, Tulane, UAB you are right. Nobody cares about EMU, CMU, WMU, Ball State, etc, either. Now imagine hosting a ranked Southern Miss team in both sports. Marshall is still obviously a decent rivalry. Look past the "interesting matchup" part of it and look at the quality of play. Nobody gives a crap about the teams we play now or they'd be at the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 EMU CMU WMU? I don't want them. They would just drag the conference down. Marshall? Take them back for the third time? Even the MAC is not that stupid. I kinda like WMU (but I vacation near there every summer, so I'm biased) but I do know what you mean. There is a lot of dead weigh in the conference as it stands presently. The three you mentioned (though it might be good to keep one school from Michigan, i.e., WMU ) as well as IMHO, Bowling Green and Can't State. K.e.nt is a pickle right now because they've been so good in basketball. However, SIX schools from Ohio?! That's just way too many. Four is plenty - Akron, Ohio, Miami & Toledo. (Frankly, I wouldn't mind dropping Miami.) As far as Marshall goes, I miss our rivalry with them. They were another school I loved to hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Heck we could still schedule Can't and Miami out of conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Heck we could still schedule Can't and Miami out of conference. Very true. I guess it's not too complicated, is it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Everyone else drops to FCS What makes you think that given the past few years of our football program that we are the most worthy of the current MAC members to ascend? I will give you this if Coach Bowden delivers what we all expect. Right now though, I'd give the nod to OU as having the edge over us. They are solid in basketball and football (annually competitive for both MACCs) and respectable in all other sports and especially volleyball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 What makes you think that given the past few years of our football program that we are the most worthy of the current MAC members to ascend? I will give you this if Coach Bowden delivers what we all expect. Right now though, I'd give the nod to OU as having the edge over us. They are solid in basketball and football (annually competitive for both MACCs) and respectable in all other sports and especially volleyball.If ascension of conferences was based simply on athletic success, you would have a point. A big part of this, I'd say more than 50%, is related to tv markets. Akron holds a HUGE advantage over Athens. See Memphis for point of reference. 5 football wins over the last 3 years, good tradition in basketball and BIG tv market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 If ascension of conferences was based simply on athletic success, you would have a point. A big part of this, I'd say more than 50%, is related to tv markets. Akron holds a HUGE advantage over Athens. See Memphis for point of reference. 5 football wins over the last 3 years, good tradition in basketball and BIG tv market. Unfortunately, for this move, we are dependent on Cleveland tv actually covering us. This should give us many sleepless nights. I don't think they would, for they never have. It means they would be required to validate something in the region outside of Cleveland. In the past they've always refused to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 Potential coverage and high population still has many more benefits than cows and trees. As an aside, cbssports claims to have a source stating CUSA has already contacted Temple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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