akronzips71 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Stats schmats. The Zips are playing better with McNees as the starting PG. Abreu is playing better since he's been coming off the bench. No links necessary. Look at the wins. Bingo. I think we sometimes forget the successes we've had under Mr. McNees for the last 4 years. Oh yeah...and THIS was just added on MAC-Sports. In case you don't feel like clicking, ESPN2 has picked up the finale @Can't. And that MIGHT turn out to be our most important game of the year. Could still be win #20, which would be great in an off year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Stats schmats. The Zips are playing better with McNees as the starting PG. Abreu is playing better since he's been coming off the bench. No links necessary. Look at the wins. Bingo. I think we sometimes forget the successes we've had under Mr. McNees for the last 4 years. Oh yeah...and THIS was just added on MAC-Sports. In case you don't feel like clicking, ESPN2 has picked up the finale @Can't. And that MIGHT turn out to be our most important game of the year. Could still be win #20, which would be great in an off year. The question is......SHOULD this have been an "off" year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 The question is......SHOULD this have been an "off" year? Dials, Joyce, Travis, Middleton and Wood. Tell me which 2011 Zips starters would beat out any of that starting 5. Does that answer what type of season we SHOULD expect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 McNees' performance can be measured in great detail through his charts on statsheet.com. The shooting percentage graph shows that he has just been through the worst extended shooting slump of his 4-year playing career. It also shows that in recent games he has pulled out of the slump and is now trending up closer to his previous 3-year average. Had McNees "quit shooting" a few games ago, he wouldn't have had a chance to break out of his slump toward the end of the season when it really counts. The points average season trend chart shows that only in his freshman season did his scoring drop off near the end of the season. Over the last three seasons, his point scoring has risen toward the end of the season. Everyone knows that McNees is not an all-star player. But there aren't any current all-stars sitting on the bench waiting to replace him, either. McNees is a good veteran combo guard who can both shoot and run the offense. It's possible that Abreu and/or Q may eventually be better all-around guards than McNees. But it's highly unlikely that will happen before McNees graduates. McNees has proven over the years that he deserves to start and finish games, especially toward the end of the season. McNees at statsheet.com Good call, you can even see his confidence returning in the last few games. I think Steve is on his way out of this slump. btw, isn't statsheet great? I want a tshirt of the Zippy robot on Zipsupdate.com (statsheet's zips page) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 The question is......SHOULD this have been an "off" year? Dials, Joyce, Travis, Middleton and Wood. Tell me which 2011 Zips starters would beat out any of that starting 5. Does that answer what type of season we SHOULD expect? Those guys won as many championships as this years team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 The question is......SHOULD this have been an "off" year? Dials, Joyce, Travis, Middleton and Wood. Tell me which 2011 Zips starters would beat out any of that starting 5. Does that answer what type of season we SHOULD expect? I talk all the time on here about how we aren't as talented as we were a few years ago. So, you know I agree with you on that. But, how many programs would feel compelled to just throw an "off year" label on a season when you had 6 juniors/seniors with loads of playing experience, and a sophomore returning starter? If that's an "off year", or a rebuilding year, what would you anticipate the following year when 4 more of those guys are gone? It's something to ponder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Let's not underestimate the players the Zips lost from last season. Without even counting the other subs who moved on, three key players alone missing from this year's lineup had huge impact on last season's team. Here's how they ranked in key team categories: Playing time: 2. Conyers 3. Hitchens 5. C. McKnight Scoring: 1. Conyers 2. C. McKnight 5. Hitchens Rebounding: 1. Conyers 2. C. McKnight 8. Hitchens Assists: 1. Conyers 3. Hitchens 5. C. McKnight Steals: 1. Conyers 2. C. McKnight 3. Hitchens The above stats don't fully address such things as teamwork, defense and intangibles. The remaining Zips players may have another year of experience, and some of the new players are performing pretty well. But the loss of those three players above created a much larger hole to fill than may be obvious without closely examining and considering what they actually contributed to team performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 The question is......SHOULD this have been an "off" year? Dials, Joyce, Travis, Middleton and Wood. Tell me which 2011 Zips starters would beat out any of that starting 5. Does that answer what type of season we SHOULD expect? Those guys won as many championships as this years team. Exactly. If that crew won nothing, how can anyone expect this starting five to win anything? One answer to that question is -- The MAC is no where near the level is was only 3-4 years ago. Our 2011 team has markedly less talent, but the rest of the MAC has followed suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Let's not underestimate the players the Zips lost from last season.All teams lose players. It's the coaches job to be prepared. Is coach K not preparing this year for next years losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 One answer to that question is -- The MAC is no where near the level is was only 3-4 years ago. Our 2011 team has markedly less talent, but the rest of the MAC has followed suit. Good points. Here is how I see it. With the past performance, we should have better players on the team. There are reasons we may not have better players right now, but I don't want to go into them as it may throw the board into a frenzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Let's not underestimate the players the Zips lost from last season. Without even counting the other subs who moved on, three key players alone missing from this year's lineup had huge impact on last season's team. Here's how they ranked in key team categories: Playing time: 2. Conyers 3. Hitchens 5. C. McKnight Scoring: 1. Conyers 2. C. McKnight 5. Hitchens Rebounding: 1. Conyers 2. C. McKnight 8. Hitchens Assists: 1. Conyers 3. Hitchens 5. C. McKnight Steals: 1. Conyers 2. C. McKnight 3. Hitchens The above stats don't fully address such things as teamwork, defense and intangibles. The remaining Zips players may have another year of experience, and some of the new players are performing pretty well. But the loss of those three players above created a much larger hole to fill than may be obvious without closely examining and considering what they actually contributed to team performance. Jimmy was the man last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 And WMU is now the West division leader having won at least as many games as they lost against the East (they still hopefully will beat Can't to go to 4-2. Wonder when the last time a West team had a winning record against the East?). Good thing for us is the two teams we lost to are not likely to be in a tie breaker scenario with us at the end of the year. Things must be pretty bad in the week, this was the West Player of the week list from the MAC web site. Take a look at the Feb. 14th "West" player of the week. West Division Nov. 15 -- Brandon Bowdry, F, Eastern Michigan Nov. 22 -- Xavier Silas, G, Northern Illinois Nov. 29 -- Xavier Silas, G, Northern Illinois Dec. 7 -- Jalin Thomas, F, Central Michigan Dec. 13 --Jarrod Jones, F, Ball State Dec. 20 -- Xavier Silas, G, Northern Illinois Dec. 27 -- Brandon Bowdry, F, Eastern Michigan Jan. 3 -- Juwan Howard Jr., F, Western Michigan Jan. 10 --Jarrod Jones, F, Ball State Jan. 17 -- Xavier Silas, G, Northern Illinois Jan. 24 - Randy Davis, G, Ball State Jan. 31 -- Xavier Silas, G, Northern Illinois Feb. 7 - Brandon Bowdry, F, Eastern Michigan Feb. 14 - Justin Greene, F, Can't State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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