Casualroofan11 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 The Zips can't think they'll find someone with as strong a resume as Vince Okruch, do they? He's been there longer than any of them, and has been a successful BCS DC before. Do they technically have to 'open' the position and go through the formality of interviewing outsiders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 The Zips can't think they'll find someone with as strong a resume as Vince Okruch, do they? He's been there longer than any of them, and has been a successful BCS DC before. Do they technically have to 'open' the position and go through the formality of interviewing outsiders? It's either Okruch, or Dr. Z. There's no need to interview anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 It's either Okruch, or Dr. Z. There's no need to interview anyone else.I will need to spend one full training camp at Latrobe, like Kevin Greene did last August, then I'm ready. Don't forget our defensive line coach (Derrick Jackson) was co-defensive coordinator at Syracuse at one time. I'm not advocating the hire, just pointing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I'm sure government bureaucracy dictates they need to open the position to the public. I hope they can take care of this quickly and name Vince an interim coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I'm sure government bureaucracy dictates they need to open the position to the public. I hope they can take care of this quickly and name Vince an interim coach. Well I'm going to be skeptical about anything you are sure of from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Zip Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 The statement was not meant to be two different statements...my thought was simply they would need to have someone in there interim until they made a hire. I don't think even government bureaucracy would stop putting an interim tag on someone. Then again maybe sports is different than the rest of the University and they don't need to open things to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So far I don’t think I’ve seen even one dissenter to the notion of promoting Vince to become the DC. That has me concerned that iCoach might read this and think “I’m not letting ZipsNation pick MY defensive coordinator!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 The statement was not meant to be two different statements...my thought was simply they would need to have someone in there interim until they made a hire. I don't think even government bureaucracy would stop putting an interim tag on someone. Then again maybe sports is different than the rest of the University and they don't need to open things to the public. I'm not sure how one statement could be interpreted as two different statements, but you did have two different sentences and the first one is the one where you are sure of something that is untrue. edit: By the way, the last sentence in your last post is also based on an incorrect assumption (in actuality, most jobs at a University do not require a public search). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I only have one thought. Do we really want anyone from this current staff to get a promotion? If so, aren't we saying that they did a great job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I only have one thought. Do we really want anyone from this current staff to get a promotion? If so, aren't we saying that they did a great job? A coach from this staff recently was hired by the University of Michigan, a member of the vaunted BCS conference known as the Big Ten. Thus, some one was doing a good enough job to gain a major promotion. Hear, hear, Vince seems like the man for the job. Based on his performance, not that folks on ZipsNation want him, even though many of us do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I can't see Ianello promoting Okruch. Okruch isn't an "Ianello guy". He was a holdover from the last staff. In the coaching profession, it's not so much about how good of a coach you are, it's more about who you're buddy buddy with when it comes to landing jobs. I think Okruch would be a great candidate for the job, he seems knowledgeable and well respected by the players, but Ianello is probably going to bring in somebody he has previous ties to for the job. Most HC's want "yes men" for their coordinators. I hope I'm wrong and Okruch gets the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 Roo Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So far I don’t think I’ve seen even one dissenter to the notion of promoting Vince to become the DC. That has me concerned that iCoach might read this and think “I’m not letting ZipsNation pick MY defensive coordinator!” Johnny ... Not even one dissenter? Well here is one. I'm for Dr. Z. His record is better. Last year he was 0-0 or .500 that's a lot better than Vince's record of 1-11 or .091. Also this is not based on cronyism. I have met Dr. Z only once, but he did offer me a beer and that left me forever in awe of him. Besides that, this is based solely on unimpeachable sources regarding his ability i.e. CK and a few buddies who thought it sounded like a good idea (after a few beers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 So far I don’t think I’ve seen even one dissenter to the notion of promoting Vince to become the DC. That has me concerned that iCoach might read this and think “I’m not letting ZipsNation pick MY defensive coordinator!” Johnny ... Not even one dissenter? Well here is one. I'm for Dr. Z. His record is better. Last year he was 0-0 or .500 that's a lot better than Vince's record of 1-11 or .091. Also this is not based on cronyism. I have met Dr. Z only once, but he did offer me a beer and that left me forever in awe of him. Besides that, this is based solely on unimpeachable sources regarding his ability i.e. CK and a few buddies who thought it sounded like a good idea (after a few beers). Well, up until now I think I'd pay a little extra to see a game with Dr. Z in the booth I don’t have the figures, but I’m willing to bet that Vince’s winning percentage AS A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR is a little better than 8.33% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I only have one thought. Do we really want anyone from this current staff to get a promotion? If so, aren't we saying that they did a great job? A coach from this staff recently was hired by the University of Michigan, a member of the vaunted BCS conference known as the Big Ten. Thus, some one was doing a good enough job to gain a major promotion. Hear, hear, Vince seems like the man for the job. Based on his performance, not that folks on ZipsNation want him, even though many of us do. In case you missed the details, he took a lower level position with the Michigan staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Don't forget our defensive line coach (Derrick Jackson) was co-defensive coordinator at Syracuse at one time. I'm not advocating the hire, just pointing out. No need to worry about that now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_17384607?nclick_check=1 Former Gophers defensive coordinator Kevin Cosgrove has been hired by University of Akron head coach Rob Ianello as defensive coordinator. Cosgrove's predecessor at Akron, Curt Mallory, son of former Indiana coach Bill Mallory, left for Michigan State, where former Gophers director of football operations Tim Allen works in the same position. Not sure how reliable this is. For one thing, Mallory went to UM, not MSU. For another, I can't find any other independent source to confirm this. I do know that he was at Wisconsin along with Ianello. He was also at Minnesota when Wistrcill was the assistant AD. His son played WR at Minny last year. he was a freshman. I doubt he'll come play for the Zips though, due to a medical condition that kept him from playing most of the season and probably ended his career. If true, it looks like ITZ was right. We went and got an "Ianello guy" and even a "Wistrcill guy". I'm tired of never looking beyond their little circle of failed coaches to find new assistants. Cosgrove may have been the worst coordinator in Big Ten history. Look at Minny's defense last year, when he was in charge. It was just awful. - Thanks to a certain Zips fan for the scoop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_17384607?nclick_check=1 Former Gophers defensive coordinator Kevin Cosgrove has been hired by University of Akron head coach Rob Ianello as defensive coordinator. Cosgrove's predecessor at Akron, Curt Mallory, son of former Indiana coach Bill Mallory, left for Michigan State, where former Gophers director of football operations Tim Allen works in the same position. Not sure how reliable this is. For one thing, Mallory went to UM, not MSU. For another, I can't find any other independent source to confirm this. I do know that he was at Wisconsin along with Ianello. He was also at Minnesota when Wistrcill was the assistant AD. His son played WR at Minny last year. he was a freshman. I doubt he'll come play for the Zips though, due to a medical condition that kept him from playing most of the season and probably ended his career. If true, it looks like ITZ was right. We went and got an "Ianello guy" and even a "Wistrcill guy". I'm tired of never looking beyond their little circle of failed coaches to find new assistants. Cosgrove may have been the worst coordinator in Big Ten history. Look at Minny's defense last year, when he was in charge. It was just awful. - Thanks to a certain Zips fan for the scoop. If true, this tidbit doesn't exactly make me feel great about the hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Cosgrove coached 3 years with Rob at Wisky in the early 90's. Cosgrove is not short on experience, just success it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xu9697 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 His bio: http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.db...;ATCLID=3672920 As with just about any coaching resume, you can find positives (which are in his bio) and negatives (which can be found in other places on the inter-web) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 His bio: http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.db...;ATCLID=3672920 As with just about any coaching resume, you can find positives (which are in his bio) and negatives (which can be found in other places on the inter-web) . Yeah, back in 2007 his Nebraska team was walloped by Missouri and after the game Mizzou QB Chase Daniel said this on television: “You can’t just play one defense the whole entire game... That’s like high school stuff that I faced in high school, so it’s nothing new for me.” ouch, and his defense gave up an average of 38 points per game that year. Last year his Minnesota D gave up 30+ points EIGHT times. Really, he's a very hated guy too, he's even ripped on his former fans in Nebraska with idiotic comments. I'm not impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 His bio: http://www.gophersports.com/ViewArticle.db...;ATCLID=3672920 As with just about any coaching resume, you can find positives (which are in his bio) and negatives (which can be found in other places on the inter-web) . Agreed. But let's just say the recent trend isn't very encouraging. Does anyone recall Ball St. narrowly missing out on an upset in Lincoln (41-40)? How about Kansas and Mangini laying SEVENTY-SIX on the Huskers? Both occurred with Cosgrove as DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Cosgrove has a great knack for getting his head coach fired once blowout losses become a regular occurrence. If you thought this year's D was bad, oh man are we in trouble next year. I honestly can't figure out why he was constantly getting hired by BCS teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Interesting Bit of Irony - Look at Pics #18 and #19 Wasn't this the infamous "Hendry scored....no he didn't game" in which the Zips should have tied/went ahead late in the 4th only to have Lee Evans haul in a 99 yard TD on the very next play to kill our chances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Interesting Bit of Irony - Look at Pics #18 and #19 Wasn't this the infamous "Hendry scored....no he didn't game" in which the Zips should have tied/went ahead late in the 4th only to have Lee Evans haul in a 99 yard TD on the very next play to kill our chances? That day was the second most gut wrenching day of my athletic career, outside of the Can't State loss that same season. In regards to the hire, hate to say I told you so but.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Interesting Bit of Irony - Look at Pics #18 and #19 Wasn't this the infamous "Hendry scored....no he didn't game" in which the Zips should have tied/went ahead late in the 4th only to have Lee Evans haul in a 99 yard TD on the very next play to kill our chances? That day was the second most gut wrenching day of my athletic career, outside of the Can't State loss that same season. In regards to the hire, hate to say I told you so but.... You certainly did. But although many of us wanted Vince to get it, I'm not so sure if any of us really expected it to happen. Looked for a little confimation on FootballScoop with no luck. But there's this hidden gem from February 14: Morehead HS (NC): Former Can't State head coach Doug Martin has accepted the head coaching job at Morehead HS in North Carolina. The jokes may now begin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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