Blue & Gold Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hmm. Check out this blog. HirePaulWinters.blogspot.com. I know some on this board are not real big fans of Paul Winters, but the author of this blog has put some nice work in. I'm assuming they drop by ZNO at least occassionally. Idk. Paul Winters may turn out to be another KD - an Akron guy who is loyal and very proud to be an Akron Zip; not just looking at Akron as a stepping stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Hmm. Check out this blog. HirePaulWinters.blogspot.com. I know some on this board are not real big fans of Paul Winters, but the author of this blog has put some nice work in. I'm assuming they drop by ZNO at least occassionally. Idk. Paul Winters may turn out to be another KD - an Akron guy who is loyal and very proud to be an Akron Zip; not just looking at Akron as a stepping stone. Winters' Wayne St Warriors come back from a 21-6 deficit to win 48-38 on the road at St Cloud St in the opening round of the D-2 playoffs. This is Wayne St's 1st win EVER in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I would support the hiring of Paul Winters as head coach. Whether or not he would be interested is debatable after we snubbed him a few times. He has head coaching experience which is what we want in our head coach. He actually wore the pads at one point and can probably relate better to the players. He was a coordinator at the D1-A level and was a pretty good one at that. Our offense was prolific under the direction of Paul Winters. More important is that he is one of us and probably would take interest in elevating the program. I remember having doubts about hiring Keith Dambrot after the Hipsher years. And one more thing, his team is actually pretty good. Until we bring someone with competence on running a program, I will refuse to step foot at a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 No. Why do we want a D2 coach? L.O is looking good at D2 also. I want either a BCS level coordinator or a constant winner from a D1-AA or whatever the hell it's called now. A slightly above average D2 coach....Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 No. Why do we want a D2 coach? L.O is looking good at D2 also. I want either a BCS level coordinator or a constant winner from a D1-AA or whatever the hell it's called now. A slightly above average D2 coach....Really? I agree. They need to find someone similar to Solich at Ohio. A proven winner who knows how to turn things around. However, I don't hold out much hope for a guy like that because the University is cheap and won't dole out the cash necessary to bring in a proven winner. Ohio ante'd up and now they are enjoying the fruits of that decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I want either a BCS level coordinator Because that worked out so great for us the last three times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I want either a BCS level coordinator Because that worked out so great for us the last three times. Who? L.O was an OL coach. JD was a WR coach Coach I was a recruiting coord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I want either a BCS level coordinator Because that worked out so great for us the last three times. Who? L.O was an OL coach. JD was a WR coach Coach I was a recruiting coord. Correct on LO & Rob, but Brookhart was OC for Pitt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 No. Why do we want a D2 coach? L.O is looking good at D2 also. I want either a BCS level coordinator or a constant winner from a D1-AA or whatever the hell it's called now. A slightly above average D2 coach....Really? I wish LO was our coach right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 No. Why do we want a D2 coach? L.O is looking good at D2 also. I want either a BCS level coordinator or a constant winner from a D1-AA or whatever the hell it's called now. A slightly above average D2 coach....Really? I wish LO was our coach right now. His teams were entertaining as all get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 No. Why do we want a D2 coach? L.O is looking good at D2 also. I want either a BCS level coordinator or a constant winner from a D1-AA or whatever the hell it's called now. A slightly above average D2 coach....Really? Like I keep saying, when I see higher divisions clammoring for Winters services, maybe I'll change some of my thoughts. But for now, this just about says it all. And I just find it hilarious how people compare Winters to Dambrot. That's laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 And I just find it hilarious how people compare Winters to Dambrot. That's laughable. I've done that. Why do you think it's laughable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPAZip Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Coach Tressel went from great div II school with great support to premier DI and took program to top Coach Winters is at a previously poor div II school with no support and he gets into D II playoffs and wins Zips are currently one of the worst programs in BCS hemorrahging fan support by the week He from here his family is still here Can someone name a better Offensive coordinator at akron in last 30 years I will not attend another game until Coach I is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Coach Tressel went from great div II school with great support to premier DI and took program to top Coach Winters is at a previously poor div II school with no support and he gets into D II playoffs and wins Zips are currently one of the worst programs in BCS hemorrahging fan support by the week He from here his family is still here Can someone name a better Offensive coordinator at akron in last 30 years I will not attend another game until Coach I is gone Wrong. Tressel came from a D1AA, not D2. Also, he had multiple NC at that level. Winters is at D2 and has not won any championships or even played for any or was close to any. Not even close enough to call apples and oranges. I do agree that Coach I has to go though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm not certain why we need a guy who has won national championships at any level. KD is a good coach and he basically came from the wilderness to coach the Zips and is doing better than just fine. We need a guy who can coach at Akron regardless of what he did at some other school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm not certain why we need a guy who has won national championships at any level. KD is a good coach and he basically came from the wilderness to coach the Zips and is doing better than just fine. We need a guy who can coach at Akron regardless of what he did at some other school. We had our chance to pick that guy 2 years ago, and TW picked the guy who's turned out to be the worst coach in D-1A football. I see no way that any replacement of Ianello will be better than Ianello. I've said this before and I'll say it again -- Proenza isn't a Football Guy. He has no clue about football, other than knowledge that a good football team can enhance the college experience, and get alumni back on campus. But I would be shocked if he even knows the yardage required for a first down on 1st and 10 (Answer -- "10"). As far as selecting coaches...he entrusted that decision 100% to Wistercill. And, ignoring every other candidate in the nation, he picked his buddy from Wisconsin. And here we are. Down 30-3 to Buffalo at the half. Down 49-0 to Cincinnati at the half. Beaten 35-3, at home, by a K.e.n.t. team that began the season 1-6. We are the worst team in college football. And there's no hope for the future. We'll lose by 50 Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I see no way that any replacement of Ianello will be better than Ianello. When TW came to town, he made a lot of really bad decisions early (see handling of Reno issue). At the time, I didn't feel comfortable with such a bad manager making a coaching decision (actually posted it on this board) and was concerned about him firing JD and hiring a new coach. Where are we today? The same place we were a couple of years ago only the conditions have gotten worse. Same bad manager, only we now have to live his mistake. If TW fires Coach I, we still have the same bad manager in a position to make another horrible mistake at a point when we need a good decision even more now than two years ago. TW isn't capable of making the decision and probably would fight his being taken out of the decision making process tooth and nail. It would create a horrible situation for the next coach. Before we make any coaching decisions, the first step has to be getting rid of the AD who made the conditions worse than a couple of years ago. If not, a worse problem can be created. Yes, it can always get worse. Dr. Proenza won't fire an AD and coach in the same year. However, if he does, he needs an absolute prick on the hiring committee who wouldn't be shy about asking difficult questions and questioning the conventional "wisdom" of college athletics babble. Secondly, anyone who sat on the last hiring panel shouldn't be back for this one as they are complicit in the current problem. There are people in the Athletic Department who know my number. I would make myself available. If anyone is shy about firing TW, I have experience in firing people (When I worked in corporate America, I was sent out sometimes to fire people who didn't even work for me) and I would be glad to put that experience to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Dr. Proenza won't fire an AD and coach in the same year. However, if he does, he needs an absolute prick on the hiring committee who wouldn't be shy about asking difficult questions and questioning the conventional "wisdom" of college athletics babble. Secondly, anyone who sat on the last hiring panel shouldn't be back for this one as they are complicit in the current problem. There are people in the Athletic Department who know my number. I would make myself available. If anyone is shy about firing TW, I have experience in firing people (When I worked in corporate America, I was sent out sometimes to fire people who didn't even work for me) and I would be glad to put that experience to use. So you were sort of like Ryan Bingham? "Hey Youtube Tom.....what's in YOUR backpack?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I see no way that any replacement of Ianello will be better than Ianello. When TW came to town, he made a lot of really bad decisions early (see handling of Reno issue). At the time, I didn't feel comfortable with such a bad manager making a coaching decision (actually posted it on this board) and was concerned about him firing JD and hiring a new coach. Where are we today? The same place we were a couple of years ago only the conditions have gotten worse. Same bad manager, only we now have to live his mistake. If TW fires Coach I, we still have the same bad manager in a position to make another horrible mistake at a point when we need a good decision even more now than two years ago. TW isn't capable of making the decision and probably would fight his being taken out of the decision making process tooth and nail. It would create a horrible situation for the next coach. Before we make any coaching decisions, the first step has to be getting rid of the AD who made the conditions worse than a couple of years ago. If not, a worse problem can be created. Yes, it can always get worse. Dr. Proenza won't fire an AD and coach in the same year. However, if he does, he needs an absolute prick on the hiring committee who wouldn't be shy about asking difficult questions and questioning the conventional "wisdom" of college athletics babble. Secondly, anyone who sat on the last hiring panel shouldn't be back for this one as they are complicit in the current problem. There are people in the Athletic Department who know my number. I would make myself available. If anyone is shy about firing TW, I have experience in firing people (When I worked in corporate America, I was sent out sometimes to fire people who didn't even work for me) and I would be glad to put that experience to use. IF and thats a big IF,Dr. Proenza felt he wanted a change at HC,there would be an almost unworkable situation between Wistrcill and Proenza. When you are talking about administrators at that level its doubtful that Wistrcill would stay when he would essentially be getting the message that he is not making the decisions that an AD would normally make. I keep wondering if Wistrcill and Ianello may try to get rid of assistant coaches to at least buy some time and hope the team responds. They do have some justification for that given how the defense,offensive line special teams etc. performed. I am not saying thats the solution but they may try to get through one more by doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Dr. Proenza won't fire an AD and coach in the same year. However, if he does, he needs an absolute prick on the hiring committee who wouldn't be shy about asking difficult questions and questioning the conventional "wisdom" of college athletics babble. Secondly, anyone who sat on the last hiring panel shouldn't be back for this one as they are complicit in the current problem. There are people in the Athletic Department who know my number. I would make myself available. If anyone is shy about firing TW, I have experience in firing people (When I worked in corporate America, I was sent out sometimes to fire people who didn't even work for me) and I would be glad to put that experience to use. So you were sort of like Ryan Bingham? No. I actually worked for the companies I did it for. It didn't happen much, but it happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I keep wondering if Wistrcill and Ianello may try to get rid of assistant coaches to at least buy some time and hope the team responds. Good points. My guess is they are going to have assistants leaving regardless. The young guys on staff can afford to have a third year of this on their resumes. The older guys know enough people they can get out of town with their contacts in coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 I'm not certain why we need a guy who has won national championships at any level. KD is a good coach and he basically came from the wilderness to coach the Zips and is doing better than just fine. We need a guy who can coach at Akron regardless of what he did at some other school. We had our chance to pick that guy 2 years ago, and TW picked the guy who's turned out to be the worst coach in D-1A football. I see no way that any replacement of Ianello will be better than Ianello. I've said this before and I'll say it again -- Proenza isn't a Football Guy. He has no clue about football, other than knowledge that a good football team can enhance the college experience, and get alumni back on campus. But I would be shocked if he even knows the yardage required for a first down on 1st and 10 (Answer -- "10"). As far as selecting coaches...he entrusted that decision 100% to Wistercill. And, ignoring every other candidate in the nation, he picked his buddy from Wisconsin. And here we are. Down 30-3 to Buffalo at the half. Down 49-0 to Cincinnati at the half. Beaten 35-3, at home, by a K.e.n.t. team that began the season 1-6. We are the worst team in college football. And there's no hope for the future. We'll lose by 50 Saturday. Two things CK... Most University Presidents don't know much about athletics and that is why an AD is hired, to hire people for athletics. In fact that is what deans are for, to hire people to teach. No big shocker that Proenza isn't "good" at hiring coaches. All anyone can ever do is hire who they think can get the job done. Proenza's job is to make sure that if a mistake is made it is quickly corrected. (and let's not forget the Board of Trustees has a say on all hiring as well). Second, if we lose by 50 on Saturday, then the whole staff related to football needs to be fired. Because we play Western Michigan on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Second, if we lose by 50 on Saturday, then the whole staff related to football needs to be fired. Because we play Western Michigan on Friday. Black Friday game? How appropriate. Football season ended for me a couple weeks ago. I can't even listen to the games on the radio. Unfortunately I can't avoid the embarrassing scroll running across the lower TV screen. Sucks that the nation will see "WMU 58 Akron 13" scrolling across their TV's both Friday AND Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Sucks that the nation will see "WMU 58 Akron 13" scrolling across their TV's both Friday AND Saturday. You really think we can score 13 points! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Sucks that the nation will see "WMU 58 Akron 13" scrolling across their TV's both Friday AND Saturday. You really think we can score 13 points! We KNOW the Ole Miss-led offense is GUARANTEED to put up 3 points. I predict PN7 will get us 10 more in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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