GP1 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 There are lots of things I used to be interested in as a Zips fan and now I'm not. Season ticket sales is one of those. In fact, I'm down to only caring about one thing and I'm obsessed with it.... Is the team winning or not. I don't care who coaches them, who plays for them, where they play, who they play, etc. I'm at the point where I only want to see winning when I turn on the TV or computer. I'll worry about all the other stuff when what goes on between the white lines gets better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZipsFan Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 There are lots of things I used to be interested in as a Zips fan and now I'm not. Season ticket sales is one of those. In fact, I'm down to only caring about one thing and I'm obsessed with it.... Is the team winning or not. I don't care who coaches them, who plays for them, where they play, who they play, etc. I'm at the point where I only want to see winning when I turn on the TV or computer. I'll worry about all the other stuff when what goes on between the white lines gets better. Hopefully you'll be patient - and not expect miracles this season. If we only win 3-4 games this season will that be enough? That's the one thing that concerns me about the fans -- unrealistic expectations. I have them -- but I'm not going to abandon ship if the team doesn't get to a Bowl game (again - I am a NEW Zips fan - so I don't feel the pain of many/most of you). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 I have a feeling te vast majority will be content with 4 wins. There are 3 wins on the schedule already, or should be anyways. Hopefully we can also pull another one out with the parity in the MAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 Hopefully you'll be patient - and not expect miracles this season. If we only win 3-4 games this season will that be enough? There are never enough wins....sort of like sex and money. However, 3-4 wins with a competitive team would be acceptable. 2013, I expect much more. There is too much evidence in the MAC proving it is easy to turn a program around in a short period of time. Average coaches have turned programs around in short order in this horrible league. We have an excellent coach and I expect big things his second year. I'm sure he does too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewZipsFan Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 There are never enough wins....sort of like sex and money. However, 3-4 wins with a competitive team would be acceptable. 2013, I expect much more. There is too much evidence in the MAC proving it is easy to turn a program around in a short period of time. Average coaches have turned programs around in short order in this horrible league. We have an excellent coach and I expect big things his second year. I'm sure he does too. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted August 10, 2012 Report Share Posted August 10, 2012 On a related note, I received my season tickets yesterday. All tickets were included, as well as vouchers and parking passes. They got the stuff done on-time, and correct. First time ever. I'm still in shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 It could always be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 It could always be worse. Of all the schools mentioned in this article, I didn't see any that were in worse shape than us. If we were doing the business any of them are doing I think folks around here would be thrilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 Of all the schools mentioned in this article, I didn't see any that were in worse shape than us. If we were doing the business any of them are doing I think folks around here would be thrilled. I don't know what our numbers are so I can't tell if we are in worse shape or not. Our numbers are at least trending up. From a pure numbers standpoint, MN seems in a worse disaster than we have been in. We spent $64 million for our stadium. MN spent over $210 million. They have less than a 10,000 person season ticket base in a stadium almost twice the size of ours. They are the flagship school in a Big Ten state. They have an absolute nobody coaching their team and we at least have someone people know. In three years, we will be a better mac program than MN is a big ten program. MN is the perfect of what ADs see as a great "building process" gone bad. New stadiums don't make bad teams good. New stadiums give a bad team a new place to play, in front of the same sparse crowds they were before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I don't know what our numbers are so I can't tell if we are in worse shape or not. Our numbers are at least trending up. From a pure numbers standpoint, MN seems in a worse disaster than we have been in. We spent $64 million for our stadium. MN spent over $210 million. They have less than a 10,000 person season ticket base in a stadium almost twice the size of ours. They are the flagship school in a Big Ten state. They have an absolute nobody coaching their team and we at least have someone people know. In three years, we will be a better mac program than MN is a big ten program. MN is the perfect of what ADs see as a great "building process" gone bad. New stadiums don't make bad teams good. New stadiums give a bad team a new place to play, in front of the same sparse crowds they were before. I don't know what are numbers are either, but the article says their average attendance last season in the 50,800 seat stadium was 47,714 and that so far this year about 2,000 students have ponied up $84 each for season tickets. Folks around here would be thrilled if we could match that performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mivid12 Posted August 16, 2012 Report Share Posted August 16, 2012 I don't know what are numbers are either, but the article says their average attendance last season in the 50,800 seat stadium was 47,714 and that so far this year about 2,000 students have ponied up $84 each for season tickets. Folks around here would be thrilled if we could match that performance. hell i'd be happy with half of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I don't know what are numbers are either ..... Here are some examples of numbers for you: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Here are some examples of numbers for you: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc. Oh.......... won, too, the second derivative of 1.5x^2, for, V, the number that's afraid of 7, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Oh.......... won, too, the second derivative of 1.5x^2, for, V, the number that's afraid of 7, etc. You our so smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Folks around here would be thrilled if we could match that performance. Link I think you should look at what their season tickets sales are and compare that to what teams draw the biggest crowds at their stadium. Do they get large crowds? Yes. Is MN drawing the crowd?...Hell no. That is why they have such a low season ticket base. They are a joke of a big ten program. In the past seven years, Iowa has drawn the biggest crowds. In the past eight years, the largest crowds have been for Iowa and Wisconsin. My guess is there are a ton of WI and Iowa alumns in the twin cities and it is like a home game for them when they play there. What do Iowa and Wisconsin have in common? They border Minnesota and going to the twin cities for a weekend is probably pretty fun for those square heads. If you can, take a minute to look at the link and understand that without Iowa and WI, few would car about MN football. That's why the Zips are in a better position. If the Zips get good, people will care and in proportion to a big ten school, we will be in and are in a better position than MN. It's one thing to read a story...It's another thing to have the intelligence to understand what is actually going on. If you think MN is in better shape right now than UofA, you are just plain wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Link I think you should look at what their season tickets sales are and compare that to what teams draw the biggest crowds at their stadium. Do they get large crowds? Yes. Is MN drawing the crowd?...Hell no. That is why they have such a low season ticket base. They are a joke of a big ten program. In the past seven years, Iowa has drawn the biggest crowds. In the past eight years, the largest crowds have been for Iowa and Wisconsin. My guess is there are a ton of WI and Iowa alumns in the twin cities and it is like a home game for them when they play there. What do Iowa and Wisconsin have in common? They border Minnesota and going to the twin cities for a weekend is probably pretty fun for those square heads. If you can, take a minute to look at the link and understand that without Iowa and WI, few would car about MN football. That's why the Zips are in a better position. If the Zips get good, people will care and in proportion to a big ten school, we will be in and are in a better position than MN. It's one thing to read a story...It's another thing to have the intelligence to understand what is actually going on. If you think MN is in better shape right now than UofA, you are just plain wrong. When Nebraska plays in MN, they will overtake the Iowa and WI crowds. I just hope some day our attendance gets as bad as the Gophers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Link I think you should look at what their season tickets sales are and compare that to what teams draw the biggest crowds at their stadium. Do they get large crowds? Yes. Is MN drawing the crowd?...Hell no. That is why they have such a low season ticket base. They are a joke of a big ten program. In the past seven years, Iowa has drawn the biggest crowds. In the past eight years, the largest crowds have been for Iowa and Wisconsin. My guess is there are a ton of WI and Iowa alumns in the twin cities and it is like a home game for them when they play there. What do Iowa and Wisconsin have in common? They border Minnesota and going to the twin cities for a weekend is probably pretty fun for those square heads. If you can, take a minute to look at the link and understand that without Iowa and WI, few would car about MN football. That's why the Zips are in a better position. If the Zips get good, people will care and in proportion to a big ten school, we will be in and are in a better position than MN. It's one thing to read a story...It's another thing to have the intelligence to understand what is actually going on. If you think MN is in better shape right now than UofA, you are just plain wrong. Better position? Who do we have on our schedule that will fill the stadium? From a square head Iowa Zip to Hillbilly Zip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupitertoo Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Better position? Who do we have on our schedule that will fill the stadium? From a square head Iowa Zip to Hillbilly Zip. I know it's preseason and everyone is looking for something to talk about, but, geez, do you constantly have to be taking the program's temperature like this? How many season ticket sales? These things will take care of themselves when the program starts to turn around. You're just going to drive yourselves crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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