Zipmeister Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 NIU went to the Mac Champeenship game last year. Obviously this coach wasn't the difference. Bless your heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 NIU went to the Mac Champeenship game last year. Obviously this coach wasn't the difference. OOPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Hearing some rumblings NIU is going to be ranked 16th... Special thanks to the B1G and Wisconsin for beating the snot out of Nebraska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 NIU is ranked 16th in the just-announced USA Today Coaches Poll. Harris Poll is not out yet, but it's not unreasonable to think that NIU might also be 16th there. Computer rankings are the killer. NIU had a ton of ground to make up there to make it to 16th in the BCS standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 NIU is ranked 16th in the just-announced USA Today Coaches Poll. Harris Poll is not out yet, but it's not unreasonable to think that NIU might also be 16th there. Computer rankings are the killer. NIU had a ton of ground to make up there to make it to 16th in the BCS standings. Pete Thamel @SIPeteThamel BREAKING: Northern Illinois vs Florida State is official in the Orange Bowl, according to a source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Pete Thamel @SIPeteThamel BREAKING: Northern Illinois vs Florida State is official in the Orange Bowl, according to a source. I'm happier about NI representing the MAC than KÉnt after watching the game. I know that Can't was ranked higher before the game, and I was actually rooting for Can't ( ) to roll, but NI looked like the better team to have a chance to win in a bowl game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 I'm happier about NI representing the MAC than KÉnt after watching the game. I know that Can't was ranked higher before the game, and I was actually rooting for Can't ( ) to roll, but NI looked like the better team to have a chance to win in a bowl game. I probably feel better about NIU than Can't, not sure though since NIU's HC is bolting. Can't actually surprised me Friday night, and would have won the game if the long hair TE didnt fumble the reverse in OT smh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/...orange-bowl-bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 2, 2012 Report Share Posted December 2, 2012 Harris Poll just released with NIU ranked 16th, same as the USA Today Coaches Poll. If the Orange Bowl rumor is true, it means that NIU made a major gain in the computer rankings to end up 16th or better in the BCS standings, which should be officially announced any minute now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 This is terrific! Congrats to the Huskies and I hope they travel well to Miami. With Lynch and many others coming back next year, I also hope we avoid them on the schedule for a change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 The talking heads are whining left and right about it. Its all about poor Oklahoma being left out and no one is saying a word about NIU qualifying under the rules the BCS set up. Because Louisville and Wisconsin are so deserving. Would love to see them knock off Florida State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 The talking heads are whining left and right about it. Its all about poor Oklahoma being left out and no one is saying a word about NIU qualifying under the rules the BCS set up. Because Louisville and Wisconsin are so deserving. Would love to see them knock off Florida State. If somehow NIU is able to upset Florida State it has to go down as the biggest BCS upset of all time. MAC school, ranked 16th and without a coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Wow, 16th in both polls and 19th in the average of 6 computer ratings was enough to move NIU up to 15th in the final BCS standings. That's some magical formula the BCS has conjured up. I'll have to find a good article describing how the system works, because it just didn't seem likely that this could happen to a lot of people who are smarter than me about things like this. Poor Boise State was 15th in both human polls, but stuck down in 31st with the computers. Who would have imagined that beating Can't could raise your BCS score from .1936 to .3276? Huge leap there. And Can't still finished 25th in the final BCS standings, so the MAC ended up with two teams in the final BCS standings. Great news for the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZZips Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 A record 7 MAC teams head to bowls. 12/15 Toledo - Idaho Potato 12/21 Ball State - Beef O'Brady 12/26 CMU - Little Caesars 12/27 BGSU - Military 12/28 OU - Advocare 1/1 NIU - Orange 1/6 Can't State - GoDaddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 The talking heads are whining left and right about it. Its all about poor Oklahoma being left out and no one is saying a word about NIU qualifying under the rules the BCS set up. Because Louisville and Wisconsin are so deserving. Would love to see them knock off Florida State. I fully expected some complaining, but the weeping and gnashing of teeth I just witnessed on display for a national TV audience was pathetic. I'm not arguing that NIU might not be the 15th best team in the country. But for every seemingly minor injustice the teams in the MAC have had to face over the years, the placement of an "unworthy" NIU team in the Orange Bowl does not even begin to balance the ledger. Herbstreit, Pollack and Palmer point to NIU having no signature wins. Where I believe they miss the boat is in the across-the-board improvement seen in the MAC this year. The computers identified this improvement, because they're not swayed by history, tradition, politics, or reputation. NIU did not lose a MAC game this year, something I don't believe Louisville or Wisconsin could have accomplished. In the end, FSU may blow the Huskies out, and all these blow-hards will say their I-told-you-so's. But until then, I'm enjoying this buffet of schadenfreude to the last bite. Go Huskies! Go MAC!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 We could have gone to a bowl game. All we needed to do was win another 7 or 8 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 We could have gone to a bowl game. All we needed to do was win another 7 or 8 games. With my math 6-1= 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 With my math 6-1= 5. I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Northern Illinois belongs in the BCS because Big Ten, Big East champs don't; deal with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Northern Illinois belongs in the BCS because Big Ten, Big East champs don't; deal with it According this Dennis Dodd article, the MAC will get around $13.73M for this game, don't know how that is broken down amongst conference members (NIU should certainly get more) but I really hope it is not proportionally by number of wins. Should net Akron somewhere in the $1M range though. UMass sure picked the right time to join the league. This is Dodd's breakdown from the article, but its cool that the MAC is the highest rated non-BCS league (and I would suspect higher than the Big East as well). $7 million of the $28.2 million is divided between the five non-BCS conferences (Conference USA, Mountain West, MAC, Sun Belt and WAC). •Another $7 million is divided into 15 “units” based on conference strength. Because it is the No. 1 ranked non-BCS league, the MAC will receive five of those 15 shares, followed by the No. 2-ranked conference getting four shares, etc. •The MAC will get $8 million of the remaining $14 million as the participating conference. •The other $6 million will be split up into those 15 units. This year's bowl screwing was reserved for a non-MAC team (and I am still shocked that CMU made it), La. Tech went 9-3 and is staying home, although some of it is their fault. Good to see that 6-7 Ga. Tech made it though. Nothing seems wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I fully expected some complaining, but the weeping and gnashing of teeth I just witnessed on display for a national TV audience was pathetic. I'm not arguing that NIU might not be the 15th best team in the country. But for every seemingly minor injustice the teams in the MAC have had to face over the years, the placement of an "unworthy" NIU team in the Orange Bowl does not even begin to balance the ledger. Herbstreit, Pollack and Palmer point to NIU having no signature wins. Where I believe they miss the boat is in the across-the-board improvement seen in the MAC this year. The computers identified this improvement, because they're not swayed by history, tradition, politics, or reputation. NIU did not lose a MAC game this year, something I don't believe Louisville or Wisconsin could have accomplished. In the end, FSU may blow the Huskies out, and all these blow-hards will say their I-told-you-so's. But until then, I'm enjoying this buffet of schadenfreude to the last bite. Go Huskies! Go MAC!!!! I agree with everything. What I don't understand is why everyone in the media seems to think NIU is going to go the Orange Bowl and get rolled by FSU? I went to the ACC Championship Saturday and was not all that impressed with FSU. Sort of how I'm not impressed with the ACC in general. It's not that hard to win that league. I'm not arguing NIU is going to win, I'm just saying I think they will put up a good fight against FSU and could win the game. The last time a team really got rolled in a BCS game was Cincy getting destroyed by an SEC team in Florida. Anyone who couldn't see that one coming from a mile away has vision similar to Mr. Magoo. Cincy was DOA because they simply didn't have the horses. Florida could have scored 70 on them if they wanted. It will not be a match up like that. In fact, it is a match up similar to the Oklahoma vs. Boise State game. If NIU hangs around, they can win the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted December 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 As a side note in the vein of all publicity is good publicity, NIU has dominated the conversation. I do think they have a much better shot than Can't State would have (even though Can't State did have the "signature" win against Rutgers), but they have now been noting all of the MAC wins over BCS teams this year, Mark May (a Pitt grad) pretty much told everyone to stop whining yesterday and Lou Holtz said as a MAC grad this made him very happy. Maybe the tide is shifting the other way now (and I wish someone would point out how many built in advantages the BCS schools have). Now I want to see them talk about that in the last three years the MAC has a National Championship in soccer, a basketball Sweet Sixteen run, a CWS appearance and now a BCS bid. Not so bad. Maybe sticking with the MAC in all of the reshuffling was brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 FSU's strength of schedule is 69. FSU fans can just shut-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 According this Dennis Dodd article, the MAC will get around $13.73M for this game, don't know how that is broken down amongst conference members (NIU should certainly get more) but I really hope it is not proportionally by number of wins. Should net Akron somewhere in the $1M range though. UMass sure picked the right time to join the league. This is Dodd's breakdown from the article, but its cool that the MAC is the highest rated non-BCS league (and I would suspect higher than the Big East as well). $7 million of the $28.2 million is divided between the five non-BCS conferences (Conference USA, Mountain West, MAC, Sun Belt and WAC). •Another $7 million is divided into 15 “units” based on conference strength. Because it is the No. 1 ranked non-BCS league, the MAC will receive five of those 15 shares, followed by the No. 2-ranked conference getting four shares, etc. •The MAC will get $8 million of the remaining $14 million as the participating conference. •The other $6 million will be split up into those 15 units. This year's bowl screwing was reserved for a non-MAC team (and I am still shocked that CMU made it), La. Tech went 9-3 and is staying home, although some of it is their fault. Good to see that 6-7 Ga. Tech made it though. Nothing seems wrong with that. For anyone questioning MD's math, let me just say that $14.4 million is "around" $13.73 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I agree with everything. What I don't understand is why everyone in the media seems to think NIU is going to go the Orange Bowl and get rolled by FSU? I went to the ACC Championship Saturday and was not all that impressed with FSU. Sort of how I'm not impressed with the ACC in general. It's not that hard to win that league. I'm not arguing NIU is going to win, I'm just saying I think they will put up a good fight against FSU and could win the game. The last time a team really got rolled in a BCS game was Cincy getting destroyed by an SEC team in Florida. Anyone who couldn't see that one coming from a mile away has vision similar to Mr. Magoo. Cincy was DOA because they simply didn't have the horses. Florida could have scored 70 on them if they wanted. It will not be a match up like that. In fact, it is a match up similar to the Oklahoma vs. Boise State game. If NIU hangs around, they can win the game. Yes but the example you give is quite different than this situation. For example, Cincy got blown out after its coach bolted early for another gig, and .........oh, never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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