Dave in Green Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 @LZip, I was specifically referring to your statement that you would not give KD a pass because he had all season to make an adjustment for the loss of Q. I interpreted that as saying that you expected the team to be just as strong without Q after the adjustment. Since the thread has gone off in different directions, we may be talking about different things. A lot of the recent conversation was in response to skip-zip asking how VCU could have gotten so much better than the Zips after last season's 1-point game differential. Q is a big part of that equation. In my opinion, Coach Dambrot should be given a pass for not being able to make the team as strong without Q, Abreu and a healthy Walsh in last night's game. Maybe you're addressing a different point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 And in regards to VCU being better and more athletic than Akron in my opinion I contribute that to VCU now playing in a better more superior conference. (A-10). The quality of play is leaps and bounds better than the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I came out of high school in Richmond VA and know a lot of people that attended VCU including my mom. VCU's success didn't happen overnight. I'm sure it didn't but my point still stands. VCU seems to have taken it up a notch this season. I guarantee that their tournament success has a lot to do with their continued rise. Success breeds success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksu sucks Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 And in regards to VCU being better and more athletic than Akron in my opinion I contribute that to VCU now playing in a better more superior conference. (A-10). The quality of play is leaps and bounds better than the MAC. There's one significant difference between the A10 and the MAC. Money. The programs are better because they receive more funding. They are mostly smaller private schools with no FBS football. Edit: Which is what makes Akron's success pretty remarkable. Akron would have been the 5th or 6th best team in that conference this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 There's one significant difference between the A10 and the MAC. Money. The programs are better because they receive more funding. They are mostly smaller private schools with no FBS football. True i agree with that but I also think them now playing in the A-10 alone helps their recruiting as the A-10 usually gets multiple NCAA Tourney bids. A record 9 A10 teams Are playing post season this year http://www.atlantic10.com/sports/m-baskbl/.../031713aab.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 BTW, the top 25 frequently features teams like Kansas, Pittsburgh, Indiana, etc. These aren't necessarily destination locales. 18 year olds dream about playing for Kansas for one reason-- they win. Akron needs to win on the big stage. VCU did, and look at the quality of players they recruit. One year made a big difference for them. And top-flight soccer athletes have been attracted to the "industrial midwest" to play at Akron for many years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 True i agree with that but I also think them now playing in the A-10 alone helps their recruiting as the A-10 usually gets multiple NCAA Tourney bids. A record 9 A10 teams Are playing post season this year http://www.atlantic10.com/sports/m-baskbl/.../031713aab.html I believe the A-10 has five teams in the round of 32. That's ACC-level NCAA success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I believe the A-10 has five teams in the round of 32. That's ACC-level NCAA success. shoot they got more bids than the ACC this year lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 @LZip, I was specifically referring to your statement that you would not give KD a pass because he had all season to make an adjustment for the loss of Q. I interpreted that as saying that you expected the team to be just as strong without Q after the adjustment. Yeah, sorry, I could have worded it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yeah, sorry, I could have worded it better. Happens to me all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I feel this guy's pain. "New Mexico beat writer rage-quits after Lobos’ unexpected loss to Harvard" I can relate. The losses are much more painful when you have expectations. Oh well, this is better than not expecting to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZoner Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Having expectations is fine and healthy. What that dude did was throw a temper tantrum like a baby. If he doesn't end up regetting that, he must be a real loser. Get some perspective in life, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 And top-flight soccer athletes have been attracted to the "industrial midwest" to play at Akron for many years now. NOBODY CARES ABOUT SOCCER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigzipguy Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 akronzips71, Maybe you do not care about soccer, maybe even majority of people do not care about soccer, but STILL A LOT PEOPLE DO CARE ABOUT SOCCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 NOBODY CARES ABOUT SOCCER. Most popular sport in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 akronzips71, Maybe you do not care about soccer, maybe even majority of people do not care about soccer, but STILL A LOT PEOPLE DO CARE ABOUT SOCCER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes indeed. But in the United States of America as a professional or collegiate sport NO ONE CARES ABOUT SOCCER And that is the issue here, unless I made a wrong turn at the kitchen and we are in Guatemala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Most popular sport in the world. Least popular sport in the United States. In the context of this discussion about American Collegiate Sports, no one cares about soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I personally do not care much about soccer in general. But, since UA is so good at soccer, I care about UA soccer. I also have friends who don't care so much about football or basketball, but love soccer. Any time I'm talking with them, we always talk about Akron soccer, and I try not to let my general soccer ignorance be too obvious. So for anyone who doesn't care about soccer but does care about UA, try not to be so negative about soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 32 pages before being hijacked, not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Least popular sport in the United States. In the context of this discussion about American Collegiate Sports, no one cares about soccer. False again. The MLS has a higher average attendance than the NBA and NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 Seriously, take the soccer talk to the soccer forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 VCU seems to have taken it up a notch this season. I guarantee that their tournament success has a lot to do with their continued rise. I'm glad someone brought this up, because I had this conversation with a group of friends today while watching tourney games, most of whom are Akron fans. Yes, it sure appears as if VCU has taken a run in the tourney, and parlayed it into what now appears to be a big jump in the overall status of their program. But please, I sure hope our Zips don't sit around waiting and waiting and waiting for an NCAA tournament appearance that produces a magical run. Waiting for these fleeting opportunities is senseless, and I don't understand how a few people on this board think this should be THE plan to catapult our success. How fleeting are these opportunities? Simply count the number low seeds that had magical Final 4 runs over the last couple of decades, and compare it to the number of low seeds that did not. And it still doesn't ensure that it will accomplish anything. It's not as if teams like Can't State and George Mason have been huge national success stories since their tournament runs. Schedule more teams that can produce those opportunities. We have about a dozen chances to do that every season, and we don't use them wisely. Maybe the fact that we were considering asking for a road Bracket Buster game is an indication that our strategy on this matter might finally be moving in a better direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I cannot believe the responses posted about the VCU game. Look, VCU had the game won at the 5 minute mark of the first- half. No one is questioning the superior talent on the VCU squad. The players were dominating. It would have been nice for me to have had a chance to tip my hat to the players for their pure ability. Unfortunately, Shaka Smart blew that. He is a total d-bag and I hope the dude never wins another game. Any Zips fan not named Keith Dambrot that continues to root for Smart is a moron. His decision to continue to press the Zips full-court and shoot threes when he had a 30, 35 and 40 point league proves he is a d-bag. His total lack of sportsmanship was egregious. His decision to humiliate his former boss and former employer was uncalled for. He humiliated my alma mater for 25 minutes on national tv when there was no need for it. He had an opportunity to have his team work on its half-court defense and its half- court offense yet he chose to press and shoot threes for no other reason than to humiliate us. He still would have won by 30… I will be the first to piss on his grave. Screw Shaka Smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-zip Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 No, they weren't put in that position last night. Dambrot does a lot of things slowly by design. Last night was not a night to make adjustments slowly. By the time they were made, the game was out of control. Recruiting? Let's look at this. Actually, let's look back at the game last night. Remove the score from the screen and what did we see. I saw a team much more athletic with better developed basketball skills. Faster, quicker, better shooters, etc. Put Diggs and AA on the court with a healthy Walsh and does that go away. Maybe with Diggs, but not with AA or Walsh. Heck, Walsh washed out of an A10 program. Dambrot is recruiting top notch MAC players. These players would finish in the middle of the A10. I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything when I say that. If we want to get better, we have to know where we are and why we haven't gotten there yet. Are we not getting the players or are players not being developed? If the answer is yes to either one of those questions, then the first place to criticize is the head coach. My opinion...the team has talent that isn't getting properly developed. It's been going on for years but since the MAC is so bad, we can continue to win 20 games a year. Since we now have an untouchable coach, I can only assume it will continue because there is no incentive to change. The guy who owns my wife's company always says, "Nothing good comes from people being completely comfortable." Dambrot is too comfortable at Akron. He needs to challenge himself to reach outside his comfort zone and make changes to the program that need to be made. He has two assistants who have been with the program for at least 8 years. If you are an assistant at Akron for eight years, you don't have any ambition so you aren't an asset to the program. Start with changing the dynamics of the program by changing an assistant or two. It sounds harsh, but change is necessary. Different ideas would be good for the program and a different location might be good for some of those assistants. Move your cheese Keith. Sounds like you want to take our football model GP1. Build a new multi-million dollar stadium, fire a coach that brought in top ranked recruits (with the Rubber Bowl), beat BCS teams, won a MAC Championship and hire a coach who is known to be a good recruiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 I cannot believe the responses posted about the VCU game. Look, VCU had the game won at the 5 minute mark of the first- half. No one is questioning the superior talent on the VCU squad. The players were dominating. It would have been nice for me to have had a chance to tip my hat to the players for their pure ability. Unfortunately, Shaka Smart blew that. He is a total d-bag and I hope the dude never wins another game. Any Zips fan not named Keith Dambrot that continues to root for Smart is a moron. His decision to continue to press the Zips full-court and shoot threes when he had a 30, 35 and 40 point league proves he is a d-bag. His total lack of sportsmanship was egregious. His decision to humiliate his former boss and former employer was uncalled for. He humiliated my alma mater for 25 minutes on national tv when there was no need for it. He had an opportunity to have his team work on its half-court defense and its half- court offense yet he chose to press and shoot threes for no other reason than to humiliate us. He still would have won by 30… I will be the first to piss on his grave. Screw Shaka Smart! Do you believe in handing out participation trophies, too? This is the NCAA tournament, not a regular season game. He has a job. Smart needs to have his players primed, as they have other games against tougher opponents left to play. I think the last time a starter scored for VCU was with about 9 minutes left in the game. He called off the dogs. What do you expect, for them to run the shot clock out and throw it out of bounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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