Dave in Green Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Wish I had time, but I've barely scratched the surface yet on investigating this short list of conspiracy theories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Abreau pled guilty to felony possession today. Will you cheer him when he comes back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Source? here it is Pretty sweet deal. Now hold out your wrist Alex while I give it a good slap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Abreu pled guilty to one count of trafficking in marijuana, a third-degree felony. There will be no more opportunities to cheer him in a Zips uniform again. I'll cheer for him to learn from his big mistake and make the most of the rest of his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 There will be no more opportunities to cheer him in a Zips uniform again. UA released a statement confirming he is indefinitely suspended following today's verdict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Probation with the Summit County Probation Department is like being told to write on the board 'I will never do it again' 100 times. The department is run by hacks appointed by the Judges. They do not want to deal with violations. They do their best to ignore them. They are a collection agency for fines,fees and court costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted June 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I can see D getting him back on the team. from everything he said after the incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I can see D getting him back on the team. from everything he said after the incident Not happening. He is a convicted Felon. (I could say something cute like "He is not allowed to own a gun so he can't shoot", but I'll leave it alone). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I can see D getting him back on the team ... Nah, D was not one of Abreu's stronger points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I guess the disappointing thing for me was that there was a plea deal, and as a result, we will never know what really happened. And after following the facts of the case for so long, that's a letdown for me. I sure hope that he is never allowed back on the team. For me, that would not speak highly of the integrity of our program. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I guess the disappointing thing for me was that there was a plea deal, and as a result, we will never know what really happened. And after following the facts of the case for so long, that's a letdown for me. I sure hope that he is never allowed back on the team. For me, that would not speak highly of the integrity of our program. Time to move on. I hope the University allows him to complete his degree - on his own dime. He will never play sports for Akron again. Not only does it send a bad message, but he would be a divisive factor on the team. Who wants to share a room on the road with a convicted criminal? Who wants to associate with someone who stuck a knife in the team when they could have made a run in the dance? He is just a bad memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 UA released a statement confirming he is indefinitely suspended following today's verdict. I'd let him back on the team today. Pot is now legal in some states and will gradually become legal in all states except for a few insane parts of the country where people want to control others' lives in the name of religion. We aren't talking about a hard core criminal here. He's just a guy who likes to smoke some weed and make a little cash off of it. Who was hurt by what he did?...That's why pot is being legalized...nobody is hurt by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I guess the disappointing thing for me was that there was a plea deal, and as a result, we will never know what really happened. And after following the facts of the case for so long, that's a letdown for me. Admitting to guilt is part of a plea deal. The facts we know of fit this crime and he said he did it. Article on pot trafficking in Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxpayer Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Admission of guilt as opposed to the drawn out trial process puts a ray of hope into the conclusion of this sad chapter in Alex's life. If AA has taken responsibility for his actions and accepted the consequences, he has the chance to turn this bad event into something positive. Maybe there is a university who will bless him with an athletic scholarship and thereby give him the means to complete his college education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupitertoo Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Admission of guilt as opposed to the drawn out trial process puts a ray of hope into the conclusion of this sad chapter in Alex's life. If AA has taken responsibility for his actions and accepted the consequences, he has the chance to turn this bad event into something positive. Maybe there is a university who will bless him with an athletic scholarship and thereby give him the means to complete his college education. Something tells me he'll be in uniform by midseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Something tells me he'll be in uniform by midseason. If Diggs sat out an entire season for a lesser alleged offense, no way Abreu steps foot in the JAR again without buying a ticket. There will be some desperate lower-level program that will take a flyer on him, if he chooses to continue playing basketball. But he will not be a Zip. Can anyone see Wistercill permitting a convicted 3rd degree felon on the team? The Zips are a perennial NCAA-caliber team, not a desperate bottom-feeder. The AA ship has sailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 It's possible that more details may yet come out in his co-defendant's (Austin Durgala) portion of the case. But there are already quite a few details in this ABJ story. Abreu obviously impressed the prosecutor: Assistant Summit County Prosecutor Aaron Howell said Abreu had no previous record “of any kind,” that he cooperated fully with police and gave “truthful statements” about what he did from the moment of his March 7 arrest, when police said he and a co-defendant accepted a package containing five pounds of marijuana. “This wasn’t the first time he had done it,” Howell told the judge, “and he had plans to maybe do it in the future. “Obviously, by putting him on probation, which I think would be appropriate under the circumstances here, this will be a wake-up call for him.” Howell said he listened to all of the recorded police interviews with Abreu following his arrest and found him to be “a bright young man.” “Hopefully,” the prosecutor said, “he can put this behind him and have a successful future.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 Who was hurt by what he did? His teammates. The University's basketball image (nationally-televised 40-point beat-down). The kids wearing the #11 jerseys around the JAR. Mid-season 5lb pot dealing (not just puffing) is a pretty selfish endeavor. It pretty-much forfeits your right to re-join the team. Too bad. His #11 would have eventually hung in the rafters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 His teammates. The University's basketball image (nationally-televised 40-point beat-down). The kids wearing the #11 jerseys around the JAR. Mid-season 5lb pot dealing (not just puffing) is a pretty selfish endeavor. It pretty-much forfeits your right to re-join the team. Too bad. His #11 would have eventually hung in the rafters. Capt K is right on. He disgraced the University. He let his team mates down. He is done as a Zip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalapeño Zippy Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 His teammates. The University's basketball image (nationally-televised 40-point beat-down). The kids wearing the #11 jerseys around the JAR. Mid-season 5lb pot dealing (not just puffing) is a pretty selfish endeavor. It pretty-much forfeits your right to re-join the team. Too bad. His #11 would have eventually hung in the rafters. CK is 100% right on. My 5 year son was devastated when we explained to him that his favorite player, a player he had met, a player he had multiple interactions with and a player he truly admired was no longer going to play for Akron because he chose to be involved with something illegal. My son talked about him at his day care, wanted to go to games early to see him. My son lit up when he got a hi-five from AA. When we eventually shared with my son what had happened to AA, he cried for over an hour. He was inconsolable and I will never forget that. I will never let him get close to another player again because of it. We root for the name on the front of the jersey and not the individual players playing in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 CK is 100% right on. My 5 year son was devastated when we explained to him that his favorite player, a player he had met, a player he had multiple interactions with and a player he truly admired was no longer going to play for Akron because he chose to be involved with something illegal. My son talked about him at his day care, wanted to go to games early to see him. My son lit up when he got a hi-five from AA. When we eventually shared with my son what had happened to AA, he cried for over an hour. He was inconsolable and I will never forget that. I will never let him get close to another player again because of it. We root for the name on the front of the jersey and not the individual players playing in them. I really do understand what you are saying, but that isnt fair to your son. It is human nature to get attached to certain players and AA was one of those guys for me as well. Granted, I didnt take it as hard as a 5 year old would with a hero, but I wouldn't let one guy that messed up spoil it for you son. It is a lesson learned in life, although a crappy one for your son. I think we have some really good young men on this team, so hopefully, one of them steps up and wins his spirit back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jalapeño Zippy Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I think that's an exetremely fair statement and I will deifnitely keep that in mind. Thanks Zipgrad01. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 His teammates. The University's basketball image (nationally-televised 40-point beat-down). The kids wearing the #11 jerseys around the JAR. Mid-season 5lb pot dealing (not just puffing) is a pretty selfish endeavor. It pretty-much forfeits your right to re-join the team. Too bad. His #11 would have eventually hung in the rafters. The harm is still minor in the long run. Him coming back on the team and helping them to be successful would erase the harm. Fans love a player who can help a team win. His teammates still won the MAC. The University's basketball image was mildly dented with that loss to Can't and the NCAA Tournament (a game we were completely outclassed in all the way around). The children? They get over those things when the next cartoon or video games start. One day they will be adults and look back at our pot laws and shake their heads at what a stupid legal system we had that destroyed lives in the name of pot. It's the same feeling I get when I think about Prohibition. You guys might be surprised at how welcomed he would be by the other players. Hell, he's probably still friends with some of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU Dude Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 We'd love to see AA back in Athens one more time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 I hope everyone read that last article I linked to in my previous post. Abreu sounds a lot like someone who was not just trying to get a light sentence, but someone who genuinely wants to make amends for his mistake. For those of you with kids, consider how he directly addressed that subject: What hurts even more, he said, “was that I used to be somebody that kids wanted to be like. I know I’m not that example anymore, but now I wish I could be to show young people how to follow the right path and do things [correctly] through sports and education,” he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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