ZachTheZip Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 Akron does it again! 7-1 over Buffalo. Next game is on Saturday at 9:30 AM against the winner of Miami/Buffalo.The MAC's double-elimination bracket is weird. Quote
Zipmeister Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 Akron does it again! 7-1 over Buffalo. Next game is on Saturday at 9:30 AM against the winner of Miami/Buffalo. The MAC's double-elimination bracket is weird.How so? Quote
mes102 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 http://www.mac-sports.com/Portals/20/2014MACBaseballBracket_1.pdf Quote
zippy5 Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 How so?It's the same as all college baseball tournaments. It's double elimination until the championship. Quote
Zipmeister Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 It's the same as all college baseball tournaments. It's double elimination until the championship.I agree; so I'm curious how that makes the MAC bracket weird for Zach? Quote
Staton14 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Posted May 23, 2014 I agree; so I'm curious how that makes the MAC bracket weird for Zach?The dates/times are slightly weird. Usually you don't get a day off and the loser's bracket team would have to play twice in the same day. But the format is pretty standard. Quote
GJGood Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 The format is standard but usually the winner's bracket keeps you in prime viewing time. Having a team that is 2-0 play at 9:30am in a format like this is quite odd. Quote
Aaron Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I haven't liked the MAC format of 4 teams on each side of the bracket playing down to one winner, instead of a true 8 team double elimination. As it stands now, Zips will potentially play the Buffalo / Miami winner twice tomorrow (if Akron loses the first game). After that, you play the winner of the other side of the bracket potentially twice. The MAC bracket is fairly standard for the first few games, but it's the last few that seems a little odd. Quote
MDZip Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 It is a bit of an odd format since it is not true double elimination. It is double elimination on each side of the bracket and those the survivors play 1 game for the championship. As it stands right now if Akron and Can't (the last two who have not lost) each win their next games they will play 1 game for the title so if that happens the loser will have only lost one game instead of two. With most double elimination tournaments that I am familiar with the one that gets to the title game undefeated would take on the loser of the elimination bracket and that team would have to win two games against the top team to win the tournament (and usually there are also crossover games so that you don't have to play the same team twice until the championship) so it is a little bit of an odd format.With this format, however, Buffalo or Miami would have to beat the Zips two straight games to keep the Zips from the championship game, so now I like it. Quote
GJGood Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Is it one game for the finals for certain? Or does it depend on if one or both of the final two have a loss or not? If the finals ends up a best two out of three then I think this format would essentially be the same as the College World Series in Omaha, just with some odd game times along the way. Quote
Aaron Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 The MAC bracket indicates a championship game Sunday noon, with a replay Sunday 3:30 if necessary.However, if both Akron and Can't win to make it to the final game, shouldn't it be 3 games? Doesn't look like the game schedule allows for that. Is there a 'total runs' tiebreaker after two games or something similar? Quote
MDZip Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Is it one game for the finals for certain? Or does it depend on if one or both of the final two have a loss or not? If the finals ends up a best two out of three then I think this format would essentially be the same as the College World Series in Omaha, just with some odd game times along the way.Here is the bracket - http://www.mac-sports.com/Portals/20/2014MACBaseballBracket_1.pdf. It says that the Championship Game Replay will be necessary if both teams have 1 loss after Championship Game is complete so it appears that if both Akron and Can't make the championship game undefeated, it's a winner take all scenario, but if one enters with one loss and wins the "final" game, one more will be played to determine a champion. Still an odd format. Quote
GJGood Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I see what you are saying. I interpret it to mean that if both teams enter the finals with one loss there is one game to decide the title. If both teams enter the finals undefeated there is one game to determine the title. If the championship is between a team with one loss and a team that is undefeated then the one loss team must beat the undefeated team twice.The odd thing about that would be if both are undefeated scenario, the other scenarios would result in a two loss team and seem to make sense. Quote
Hilltopper Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Coach Rembielak's suspension sure doesn't seem to have a negative effect. Since his return the team has been playing pretty inspired ball. The final game of the season whipping by Can't was meaningless. I would suspect that coach was holding back his pitching to set it up for the MAC tourney run. Quote
Staton14 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Posted May 23, 2014 Here is the bracket - http://www.mac-sports.com/Portals/20/2014MACBaseballBracket_1.pdf. It says that the Championship Game Replay will be necessary if both teams have 1 loss after Championship Game is complete so it appears that if both Akron and Can't make the championship game undefeated, it's a winner take all scenario, but if one enters with one loss and wins the "final" game, one more will be played to determine a champion. Still an odd format. This is correct. If both (or neither) teams enter the championship with no losses, its one game. If one of them has a loss, they would have to win twice. Quote
Staton14 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Posted May 23, 2014 Coach Rembielak's suspension sure doesn't seem to have a negative effect. Since his return the team has been playing pretty inspired ball. The final game of the season whipping by Can't was meaningless. I would suspect that coach was holding back his pitching to set it up for the MAC tourney run.He did change pitchers right before the last game, when they had clinched a spot. The starter couldn't have been fully prepared to pitch that game. Quote
Staton14 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Posted May 23, 2014 Akron will face Buffalo tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM. If Buffalo wins they would play again at 4:30 PM to see who goes to the championship. Quote
ZachTheZip Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 Akron will face Buffalo tomorrow morning at 9:30 AM. If Buffalo wins they would play again at 4:30 PM to see who goes to the championship.Just beat them the first time and rest up for the championship game. Quote
mes102 Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 MAC Semifinals are :undefeated #4 Can't State vs one loss #8 Western Michiganundefeated #7 Akron vs one loss #6 Buffalo#1 Ball State, #2 Central Michigan, #3 Miami(OH), and #5 Bowling Green have been eliminated. 1 Quote
Spin Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 Is Carlos Santana coaching the Buffalo infield today? 1 Quote
bigzipguy Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 That ball the was ruled a catch, looked like it went off the wall!!!! Quote
ZachTheZip Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 These umpires need to wake up!!!!!!!!!!No kidding.You know the MAC wants to make things as easy as possible for Can't, now that Ball State crapped the bed. Having Akron play twice today or get eliminated would accomplish that. Quote
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